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YOLOsubmarine posted:Nobody here has any power to change the framework. We all accept it, including you, because there’s no alternative. Joker laughing about it doesn’t make you enlightened, it’s just weird, like you can somehow delegitimize a process that doesn’t give a poo poo about you or what you think. The process was already delegitimized long before this point. Clinging to Roger’s chosen gladiator as the last hope of possible consequences for Watson seems silly to me, although not as silly as the pearl clutching about someone who finds the distinction in number of games suspended to be pointless.
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Forrest on Fire posted:After all this publicity I'm shocked Watson intends to keep using massage therapists He believes he did absolutely nothing wrong and is presumably living in a bubble of yes men who reinforce that sentiment every day. He's probably going to die steadfast in his belief that any consequences he eventually faces were because he got railroaded by the Woke Mob and 30 lying golddiggers. Basically small scale Trump.
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GD_American posted:The process was already delegitimized long before this point. Clinging to Roger’s chosen gladiator as the last hope of possible consequences for Watson seems silly to me, although not as silly as the pearl clutching about someone who finds the distinction in number of games suspended to be pointless. It literally is the last hope of possible consequences for him. Nothing else is going to happen. This is it and nothing that happens as part of this process will change that, so the only possible results are “no consequences” or “meager consequences.” I’ll take meager consequences in that case since at least it might dissuade teams in the future for signing some other piece of poo poo with a looming suspension if they think that suspension could eat a whole year of his career, or more.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:since at least it might dissuade teams in the future for signing some other piece of poo poo with a looming suspension if they think that suspension could eat a whole year of his career, or more. How many teams were in the Watson hunt even after he was in the crosshairs? Eight, nine? It might be the crucial factor for a 4th year blocking TE facing suspension. But there will always be suitors for top 5 talent at the top 1 position.
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GD_American posted:How many teams were in the Watson hunt even after he was in the crosshairs? Eight, nine? If he eats a one year suspension - and possibly more next year if he's not contrite - do you think the Browns are gonna be happy with their decisions and the contract they gave him?
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The fewer games he's on TV the better, and the more games he misses the worse it is for the Browns. Why someone would go through so much mental gymnastics to argue that 6=17 I have no idea.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:If he eats a one year suspension - and possibly more next year if he's not contrite - do you think the Browns are gonna be happy with their decisions and the contract they gave him? If he comes back at something resembling what he was before, then they're absolutely going to be happy with it. Don't forget they're barely even paying him this year, which I'd take to mean Watson and the Browns pulled the trigger on this deal knowing full well that losing much or all of this season was on the table.
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GD_American posted:How many teams were in the Watson hunt even after he was in the crosshairs? Eight, nine? I agree, but I’ll also take what I can get. Maybe it means the next Kareem Hunt doesn’t get signed two minutes after they get cut. Here’s the other reason I’d love a long suspension: I don’t want to loving see the guy. A year reprieve from having to see Deshaun Watson highlights or hear people on tv talk about him in a football player context would make watching football less miserable.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:If he eats a one year suspension - and possibly more next year if he's not contrite - do you think the Browns are gonna be happy with their decisions and the contract they gave him? It’s almost a given that the possibility of a year suspension was baked into their decision making, so….yes? What would have changed? They all but laughed off the bad PR. They made the cynical, but probably correct decision that a certain part of the fanbase wouldn’t care, and a larger part of the fanbase would happily forget when he wins games. Nothing so far has changed their math. YOLOsubmarine posted:Here’s the other reason I’d love a long suspension: I don’t want to loving see the guy. Ok this I can completely agree with
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Fine him $250 million dollars and force him to read my posts.
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General Dog posted:If he comes back at something resembling what he was before, then they're absolutely going to be happy with it. Don't forget they're barely even paying him this year, which I'd take to mean Watson and the Browns pulled the trigger on this deal knowing full well that losing much or all of this season was on the table. They're actually paying him like 46 million dollars this year they just structured it so that it's almost all bonus instead of salary so a suspension costs him, personally, as little as possible. The Browns are on the hook either way.
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Is there anything in the new CBA that says Goodell couldn't just put him on the exempt list? It seems wild that the commish is openly admitting he's a predator, but would let him play in the league still. I shouldn't be surprised by this, but I am a bit.
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S.W.O.R.D. Agent posted:Is there anything in the new CBA that says Goodell couldn't just put him on the exempt list? It seems wild that the commish is openly admitting he's a predator, but would let him play in the league still. I shouldn't be surprised by this, but I am a bit. I think Goodell tries to reserve the exempt list for people under an ongoing investigation but since Watson willingly sat a season out due to a contract dispute it seems kinda pointless.
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The point is Watson gets paid if he just sits out the season vs. having the salary taken if he's on the exempt list.
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I remember reading that being on the exempt list would have counted as time served toward whatever the final suspension ends up being. Although I am not sure if that was from a good source or Twitter lawyering. Would at least make sense, though. Imagine if the league came down with “Watson’s egregious behavior warrants a year suspension. Conveniently, he has been sitting on his rear end for a year of his own volition already, so see you in week 1” lol.
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Docjowles posted:I remember reading that being on the exempt list would have counted as time served toward whatever the final suspension ends up being. Although I am not sure if that was from a good source or Twitter lawyering. The judge in the arbitration said that the year he sat out did not count towards any suspension because he did so voluntarily.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:The judge in the arbitration said that the year he sat out did not count towards any suspension because he did so voluntarily. Yes, but the big takeaway is that Goodell was actually smart to not put him on the exempt list last year when the story broke as it would have allowed his self imposed exile to count as time served towards a suspension.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Yes, but the big takeaway is that Goodell was actually smart to not put him on the exempt list last year when the story broke as it would have allowed his self imposed exile to count as time served towards a suspension. I don’t think he was playing the long game, I think he’s just a coward and didn’t to anything because he didn’t have to as long as Deshaun wasn’t playing.
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Goodell was hoping this would be settled by the legal system not because he actually cares about justice but because it would be completely out of his hands and no one would be mad at him. But now it’s up to him.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Goodell was hoping this would be settled by the legal system not because he actually cares about justice but because it would be completely out of his hands and no one would be mad at him. But now it’s up to him. The hero we deserve 
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Forrest on Fire posted:The point is Watson gets paid if he just sits out the season vs. having the salary taken if he's on the exempt list. You get paid on the exempt list
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fast cars loose anus posted:You get paid on the exempt list Wicka wicka whaaaaa? That's absolutely hosed
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Forrest on Fire posted:Wicka wicka whaaaaa? I mean not really. If you didn't get paid then it would be functionally the same as a suspension.
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The exempt list is for guys they don’t want playing but they don’t want to have damages they can sue the nfl for and force discovery.
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They've also used it for things like dudes trying out for the Olympics, which the players' team has supported. The important aspect of the list in that case is that they don't count for a roster spot so the team can replace them with someone for the duration (e: that's what the actual "exemption" is) It wasn't, at least originally, used to stash people accused of wrongdoing and so none of these issues really cropped up e2: here's the rule as written quote:EXEMPT LIST. The Exempt List is a special player status available to clubs only in unusual circumstances. The List includes those players who have been declared by the Commissioner to be temporarily exempt from counting within the Active List limit. Only the Commissioner has the authority to place a player on the Exempt List; clubs have no such authority, and no exemption, regardless of circumstances, is automatic. The Commissioner also has the authority to determine in advance whether a player’s time on the Exempt List will be finite or will continue until the Commissioner deems the exemption should be lifted and the player returned to the Active List. fast cars loose anus fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Aug 11, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/jake_trotter/status/1558220328882561027?s=21&t=T7vhJQOo63ZC0W34Ocx9UA Sounds like someone found out tonight's his last game
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wow he seems truly sorry for sexually assaulting all those women
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I think it's becoming pretty clear that the bigger story here is that the commissioner's draconian personal discipline policy has compelled a man that has consistently purported his innocence to issue an apology.
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sorry for what? be specific deshaun
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That's a helluva 1/10th assed start at rehabbing your image in the face of suspension.
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Intruder posted:sorry for what? be specific deshaun He’s sorry for not being able to play football. That’s why his work to do is “especially on the field.”
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fsif posted:Watson went 1/5 for 7 yards. 
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