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Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Upon election I promise to petition the UN to replace each nation's flag and arms with a suitably stereotypical dog

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mom and dad fight a lot
Sep 21, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 28 days!

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

well they should it fuckin slaps

I don't know if it's the same one as in The Hunt for Red October, but that's what I'll always remember it as.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
The Colour Out of Space Free State

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011



What's weird is that there are maps of krypton in the comic as well, and none of them match the planet on the flag.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

SlothfulCobra posted:



What's weird is that there are maps of krypton in the comic as well, and none of them match the planet on the flag.

That's not a planet; they just spilled some juice on the flag.

moonmazed
Dec 27, 2021

by VideoGames
new pride flag just dropped

A good poster
Jan 10, 2010

SlothfulCobra posted:



What's weird is that there are maps of krypton in the comic as well, and none of them match the planet on the flag.

Unless the maps were in the same issue as that flag panel, they probably weren't as finicky about details back then as today's nerds.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

SlothfulCobra posted:



What's weird is that there are maps of krypton in the comic as well, and none of them match the planet on the flag.
*Jor-El, thinking harder than any Kryptonian ever has* "Maybe we should be worried about our planet bearing no resemblance to a map we made like a couple of decades ago?"

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Found this one. Native American flags are interesting collections of alternative symbology and different approaches to graphic design, and this flag breaks a few flag rules but is very striking.


Possibly this is also another case of this just being a seal made into a flag, but I feel like the rules of seals are also against using maps. That is a map of their reservation but also an eagle.



Yeah, the reservation is around a river called Bad River, I don't know why. The full federally recognized english name for them is the Bad River LaPointe Band of the Lake Superior Tribe of Chippewa Indians. They call the river the Mashkii ziibii.

But also if you look at a bigger version of the flag, it seems like all of the art in the lower half of the circle was drawn at different times or drawn from different sources, they've got really different line thicknesses, and the fish looks like a photo just dropped in there.

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

I recently visited the US Naval Academy and this flag code was on the wall in a bathroom. Surely this is the right place for some bright spark to figure out what it means?

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Rebel Blob posted:

I recently visited the US Naval Academy and this flag code was on the wall in a bathroom. Surely this is the right place for some bright spark to figure out what it means?



Pretty sure it's an attempt to render ICS maritime signal flags using just black and red, but I think they're going for "beat."

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Quorum posted:

Pretty sure it's an attempt to render ICS maritime signal flags using just black and red, but I think they're going for "beat."

Almost certainly followed by "army", then.

Prof. Spaceman
May 1, 2007

NOPE

SlothfulCobra posted:



What's weird is that there are maps of krypton in the comic as well, and none of them match the planet on the flag.

It's pretty bad but it's made worse by the fact that the colorist clearly gave less than no shits.

"Oh gently caress I ran out of colors. Uh... this one on the other side of the red is also light green. Perfect. Print it, I'll be in my office with another mid-day scotch".

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.

SlothfulCobra posted:

Found this one. Native American flags are interesting collections of alternative symbology and different approaches to graphic design, and this flag breaks a few flag rules but is very striking.


This looks like someone covered an eagle with a T-shirt and now it's struggling to escape.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





TRP Post of the Month October 2021

I know discord images usually work but whatever this is doesn't show up for me, can you rehost it?

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

Quorum posted:

Pretty sure it's an attempt to render ICS maritime signal flags using just black and red, but I think they're going for "beat."
Thanks, that's certainly it. A mundane resolution to that mystery.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

pik_d posted:

I know discord images usually work but whatever this is doesn't show up for me, can you rehost it?

Know of a free image hosting provider that doesn't require logging in or anything?

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





TRP Post of the Month October 2021

Jehde posted:

Know of a free image hosting provider that doesn't require logging in or anything?

Just use imgur

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"


:hmmyes:

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
Sometimes terrible people have good flags, sometimes good people have bad flags.

And sometimes terrible people have just as terrible flags:

Cyrano4747 posted:

They also lean into the old Imperial-era red/white/black too, and looking for examples for that turned up this picture too amazing not to share:


Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

I was grossed out looking at that and only at the end did I notice the huge Q in the middle and got grossed out even more

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


Saw this on the back of a flatbed. No idea what this one is supposed to be, the thin pee line?

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

quote:

The Thin Yellow Line honors all those who serve in public safety telecommunication, including police dispatchers, fire dispatchers, and ambulance dispatchers. The Thin Yellow Line can also represent Security Guards, Loss Prevention Associates, and Search and Rescue Personnel.

lol just lol

still better than blue or green I guess

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Tow truck drivers and other highways vehicles that use yellow/amber/orange lights I think.

mom and dad fight a lot
Sep 21, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 28 days!

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

lol just lol

still better than blue or green I guess

Always protect The Thin Brown Line (tm) - Baristas Union

Edit: Oh my god, please someone tell me if this is satire or not.



TheThinBrownLine.com posted:

Keeping our homes, businesses and communities safe is exactly what tradesmen do. We are the ones you call to keep our country's infrastructures functioning. We are the ones who keep your home, businesses and cities safe and operating. We are First Responders. We are the ones who are there when you need us.

Larry Enright has been in the plumbing industry for over 30 years.

mom and dad fight a lot fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Aug 31, 2022

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
and, of course, the real heroes

moonmazed
Dec 27, 2021

by VideoGames

mom and dad fight a lot posted:

Always protect The Thin Brown Line (tm) - Baristas Union

Edit: Oh my god, please someone tell me if this is satire or not.



that boy enright

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

mom and dad fight a lot posted:

Always protect The Thin Brown Line (tm) - Baristas Union

Edit: Oh my god, please someone tell me if this is satire or not.


I am pretty sure the official thin brown line is pizza delivery boys and their compatriots, whose jobs are far more dangerous than that of cops.

mom and dad fight a lot
Sep 21, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 28 days!
I find it ironic that many of these professions demand their own color of thin line, when a good chunk of them wouldn't respect which letter of LGBTQ someone would self-identify as.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009
in 2018, when I worked at Paradox (a Swedish video games company making map-painting strategy games), I was responsible for making content for Mexico in the Second World War game, Hearts of Iron 4. The flags made for Mexico in earlier games appeared to be fictional, so I resolved to do some research and change them where it made sense.

In HoI4, flags usually depend on government/ideology type. Politics is split into 4 ideologies, which are meant to help direct geopolitics and wars of aggression: democratic (sides with America/Britain), fascist (sides with Germany/Japan), communist (sides with USSR) and neutral (avoids joining the major geopolitical blocs unless attacked).

It's important that different ideologies in the game have different flags and names, because they can exist at the same time if they are in a civil war.

Mexico starts as neutral, since in 1936 it was a one-party state with sham elections that had just left a period of intense civil war (religious dissidents and regionalists fighting against the atheist central government of president Calles). They begin with the 1934-1968 flag:


Mexico

If Mexico stays utterly stagnant they might keep that flag, but more likely the player/AI will pursue some programme of reforms to change the internal politics of the country. Historically Mexico gradually liberalised politically and economically, with the civil war-era generals retiring and the tendency for military coups being replaced by genuine elections. In game, the democracy path would result in the 1975-present flag:


The United Mexican States

Alternatively, if the player decides to side with one of those civil war-era generals (like Calles or Cedillo), they create a revanchist fascist state, using an earlier flag (1823-24)


The Mexican Junta

Moving on to the less official and fictional flags, what if those religious dissidents came back with a vengeance? Probably unlikely in reality, but HoI4 players love weird alt-history. If the Cristero movement takes power, it can either set up a democratic system using a fictional flag based on the cross of Saint John (which I think was related to the Knights of Columbus, an American organisation that had aided the Cristeros and helped the government sign a peace deal with them):


The Mexican Republic

This flag doesn't look super great in-game, because the gold cross isn't very distinct from the white on either side.

The Cristeros could also set up a more hard-line government, seeking revenge for the injustices that received, and persecute the atheists, represented as fascism in-game. Their flag is based on a real Cristero flag, seen in a photograph, but with the Mexican coat of arms removed so that the Lady of Guadalupe is comparatively larger and easier to see.


Catholic Mexico

Finally, what about communism? Of the two paths I made, the agrarian socialism path is the more realistic. The incumbent president, Lázaro Cárdenas, had a power base amongst urban socialists, trades unionists and peasant organisations unhappy with being sidelined under the more authoritarian predecessors. Historically, Cárdenas wanted his ideological ally Francisco Múgica to succeed him, but the party settled on the moderate Manuel Ávila Camacho as a compromise between the left and the right of the single-party state. If the player pushes ahead with Múgica and genuinely transforms the country into a communist society, I decided the flag of the Zapatista Army of National Liberation would be pretty appropriate:


The Mexican Socialist Republic

Alternatively, a more conventional Bolshevik-style communist government can form if the player empowers USSR-aligned communist militias (the Red Shirts). I figured that since the events of the game are happening before the USSR swept through Europe and popularised the "old tricolour with a communist coat of arms on top" motif, Mexico might use something more original.


The Mexican Soviet Republic

This flag is based on a 1994 Communist Party logo, minus the text and hammer and sickle. It looked better in my head. The 2d artist made the black borders a little too thick, so it looks bad in game. Players hate this flag.

Finally, there's a flag that isn't meant to appear in-game, but I added as a kind of easter egg:


The Third Mexican Empire

It only appears if Mexico has a neutral puppet government installed after pursuing the Cristero or agrarian socialist paths (not intentionally, just due to how cosmetic country tags work behind the scenes).

I hope you enjoyed this flag chat.

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Enjoy posted:

I hope you enjoyed this flag chat.

I did!

I wish the images were a bit higher resolution, though.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

Fuschia tude posted:

I did!

I wish the images were a bit higher resolution, though.

Those are as they appear in the game files

Enjoy fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Sep 3, 2022

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
gently caress players, I'm really fond of the :effort: mexican soviet flag. The actual USSR and constituent republics had some pretty uninspired flags themselves.

That said, Victoria modders are queen and empress of the flag game.








SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019


That looks like the flag of some tiny Florida municipality

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.


Got to say, whatever their politics, those fascist Uyghurs have a pretty striking flag design. I'd have gone with a slightly darker blue, though.

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Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

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