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Scotland has a right to roam law, so you can go anywhere with the exception of private residences and gardens or railway lines. You're also liable to get arrested if you wander onto a military base or airport. You can also wild camp anywhere except the east shore of Loch Lomond and roadside parking / passing places.
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it dont matter posted:"Cancer, and Wolf" Thank you, that was great. That thing about open access is incredible, I can’t believe I’d never heard of that! That’s so cool, I wish we’d do that here, we don’t have useful feudal rights. There’s Crown Land but it’s endless kilometres of wilderness, not the British countryside. Awesome. I really appreciate it. I was thinking of going sometime next year but covid is just not going away, and now the pox.  Grey is private land. Please petition the Queen so her loyal children across the sea can hike as easily as in the mother country. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 15:09 on Aug 10, 2022 |
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Aug 10, 2022 15:02
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This is an episode of the Thick of It. Also I hear Labour has been forcing deselection (with almost certain vote rigging) on Lefties in the Liverpool area while after deselection was forced on a rightist they said the person would run unopposed is that true? Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 15:10 on Aug 10, 2022 |
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Aug 10, 2022 15:06
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Cancer, and wolf don't really need to be two separate categories, I agree. Modern medicine likes to overcomplicate things.
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https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1557291554112503809
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it dont matter posted:Teeth. That's shorthand for "teething", it's the category of small children whose baby teeth haven't finished growing in, so from toddlers up to the age of about 5-6, I guess. In between childbirth deaths, chrisomes and 'teeth', infant mortality must've been pretty grim back then.
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Frosted Flake posted:Thank you, that was great. Here in Sussex there's a lot of footpaths with real WW2 PoW camp vibes, my favourite was walking near Stourbridge where the farmer had set up an electric fence so close to a hedge that you had to shimmy past it lest you be electrocuted for being poor. 
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Aug 10, 2022 16:38
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Gonna be a spicy year in britane
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Aug 10, 2022 16:50
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Frosted Flake posted:Thank you, that was great. It's worth mentioning that while a right to roam has been a custom in lots of northern Europe, including Scotland, it wasn't in England & Wales & it required an act of parliament to change that, as recently as 22 years ago. And it's still pretty restrictive, like privately owned forests are off-limits, for dumb gently caress reasons relating to rights to hunt & protecting those. Scotland had it as a custom but it was codified into law in 2003 as part of a wider Land Reform Act (which didn't go nearly far enough but that's a separate issue, one guy, the Duke of Buccleuch, owns through a holding company slightly more than 1% of the land in Scotland.), with the reasonable caveat that basically you the walker (or cyclist, or horse rider) has to basically be a responsible neighbour: in a nutshell, don't be a oval office.
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Aug 10, 2022 17:01
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Protecting the wildlife from hunting or protecting the right to hunt on that land?
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Aug 10, 2022 17:04
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Which do you think, given who is making the rules
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Betjeman posted:Here in Sussex there's a lot of footpaths with real WW2 PoW camp vibes, my favourite was walking near Stourbridge where the farmer had set up an electric fence so close to a hedge that you had to shimmy past it lest you be electrocuted for being poor. my friend bought a cabin in rural texas that turned out to have been a ww2 pow camp. it still has the stone foundation of a garden chapel they built in the woods, looks really similar to stone backdrop passion plays i saw in bavaria
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It's also probably worth mentioning that British national parks are quite different to ones elsewhere - especially in the USA and Canada. Whereas in most places a national park is an area of state-owned enforced natural wilderness with no residents and minimal human activity, and with controlled access, a national park in the UK is just a bit of the landscape that has been designated as important environmentally or culturally. They originally started as a means of protecting fairly ordinary bits of countryside trapped between industrial cities and promoting and protecting access to them by ordinary citizens. So that means that UK national parks have people living in them - there are villages and towns in them (sometimes quite large ones), farms, quarries and other commercial activity etc. The parks aren't owned by the nation - they're still a patchwork of individual owners.
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Frosted Flake posted:Protecting the wildlife from hunting or protecting the right to hunt on that land? The latter. loving Kings and Lords want to predict their exclusive rights to shoot deer.
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"There is uncertainty about the extent of grouse moors in Scotland, but they are estimated to cover somewhere between 1 and 1.5 million hectares, amounting to 12-18% of the country's landmass."
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actually, gently caress it, just quote wikipedia: Shooting takes place on grouse moors, areas of moorland in Scotland, northern England, and Wales. These areas, some 16,763 square kilometres in extent (about 8% of the combined area of England and Scotland)
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gonadic io posted:Which do you think, given who is making the rules I wasn’t sure what hunting and gun laws are like. You can freely shoot on Crown Land but need tags to hunt, and even then there are restrictions on moose, for example.
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Aug 10, 2022 18:28
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 I'd rather this than culture war poo poo at least
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Aug 10, 2022 18:36
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someone put it succinctly that they can either give us at least enough so our electricity bills were the same as they were last year or they can gently caress around. last year when they were too high and we'd all taken all the reasonable reduction steps possible. there is no medium ground, like people can't just up and loving absorb hundreds let alone thousands of pounds like that during the worst cost of living crisis in what decades? people are starting to really feel the squeeze and the responses are just too limp dicked, pardon my french. mass civil disobedience or mass poverty and death basically. these are not sustainable conditions. gently caress me i might have hosed the timing, lol
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the choice was always socialism or barbarism, and this stupid island has repeatedly chosen barbarism
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Venomous posted:the choice was always socialism or barbarism, and this stupid island has repeatedly chosen barbarism If it’s any consolation, so did the Dominions and the US.
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Syncopated posted:https://twitter.com/davidrkadler/status/1557422200642310145?s=20&t=fn50dYJI8oThtEAQaobgOw My heart sings
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Barry Foster posted:My heart sings
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Lol.  https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1557538886389301248?t=FxmBKnoQWscRW1fsG_pipA&s=19
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I love how stupid these people think we are
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What a compelling argument https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1557627367421607941?t=_BTN0jI7AhRD82y2sMZ_Ow&s=19
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Lol https://twitter.com/danbloom1/status/1557629596090122241?t=wsmNQBwzcWUZl3VuuZ2s4Q&s=19
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Keith to unveil five key principles for the cost of living crisis Security Respect Queen Country Controls on immigration
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keep punching joe posted:Keith to unveil five key principles for the cost of living crisis inscribed into a plastic tablet made of forever chemicals
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MikeCrotch posted:I love how stupid these people think we are If they're talking about retail "suppliers" they're not far wrong, as the margins there are quite small due to the way they forced competition into the industry, of course a lot of retailers are arms-length divisions of wholesalers who can happily bleat about outrageous wholesale prices they can do nothing about. Retailers are little more than meter readers with a large escrow account (hence why so many of them fell straight over the moment the wholesale price went above cap)
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Betjeman posted:If they're talking about retail "suppliers" they're not far wrong, as the margins there are quite small due to the way they forced competition into the industry, of course a lot of retailers are arms-length divisions of wholesalers who can happily bleat about outrageous wholesale prices they can do nothing about. Most efficient system in the world baby
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Betjeman posted:If they're talking about retail "suppliers" they're not far wrong, as the margins there are quite small due to the way they forced competition into the industry, of course a lot of retailers are arms-length divisions of wholesalers who can happily bleat about outrageous wholesale prices they can do nothing about. so what you're saying is they just keep the price cap at what it was and wait until the firms go under and then take them over for free?
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MikeCrotch posted:Most efficient system in the world baby There used to be at least a couple of retailers who ran out of mansions in the Bahamas. I haven't worked in the sector for a few years but when you had "A+++ Energy UK" chances are it was a guy in bermuda shorts pumping up his retirement fund. It's a completely fraudulent system designed by the ultimate winners, the wholesalers and PWC etc (who act as regulators)
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Jose posted:so what you're saying is they just keep the price cap at what it was and wait until the firms go under and then take them over for free? Haha no no no no You get paid by the government to take them over, of course
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Another great reason to become a retailer was that only the big ones (i.e. the ones connected in some way to the wholesalers) had to take on bad debt, so if someone didn't pay their bills, they got removed from the small retailer and put on the books of Centrica etc, which is why the smaller retailers could offer such good discounts. Also, a wholesaler's retailer was not allowed to offer competitive retail in areas where they controlled the supply, as that's far too much like a monopoly.
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Yeah, as far as I can tell, “energy suppliers” are basically finance companies. They manage your credit agreement and match it to energy derivative contracts on the financial markets. They run a customer support call centre and a social media account. That’s it. Anything involving actual energy infrastructure, like installing an energy meter, gets outsourced to a different company. Unless it’s one of the biggest suppliers like British Gas, in which case it’s still a mostly independent wing of the same company.
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Crisis posted:Yeah, as far as I can tell, “energy suppliers” are basically finance companies. They manage your credit agreement and match it to energy derivative contracts on the financial markets. They run a customer support call centre and a social media account. That’s it. Seems like an efficient system, adding as many layers of middlemen as possible
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