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Danann posted:I'm surprised the tank biathlon colors aren't war thunder skins: It was an event 
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im by no means pro tank but i am pro giant metal machine contests so im torn
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Frosted Flake posted:lol as much as talking to Brits about the Scots Greys and Aussies about the Light Horse is annoying, the American cavalry tradition is the plains wars and then stuff like that so, I’ll take upper class twits in jodhpurs talking about their grandfather’s time in the Bengal Lancers any day. They were doing similar stuff my mans.
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Tankbuster posted:They were doing similar stuff my mans. 100%, I remember a lecture on blowing Sepoy mutineers from guns in Artillery School or shortly thereafter, but usually we dress it up whereas, 
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US culture generally tends to glorify the glamorous bits of imperialism too much. The 30s did have a decent amount of major raj films shot by hollywood with characters that would make their contemporaries in the british film industry blush. By the 80s the US had advanced to the place the UK was in the 30s.
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Grapplejack posted:everything this man makes is insane lol the spider bus is my favorite. what if a car turns while its going. this guy owns
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Tankbuster posted:They were doing similar stuff my mans. How many genocides did the British do in India? Half a dozen or a dozen at a wild guess? Chicken feed in comparison.
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Weka posted:How many genocides did the British do in India? Half a dozen or a dozen at a wild guess? Chicken feed in comparison. going by the more conservative estimates the brits let at least 50 million people starve to death in india, and if you go by the high-end estimates and include everything else they did we're talking closer to 100 million
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Aug 12, 2022 07:20
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Dang just looked up North American population density pre Columbus and I had no idea it was quite that low. I was just counting discrete genocides which is obviously not the best metric.
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Weka posted:How many genocides did the British do in India? Half a dozen or a dozen at a wild guess? Chicken feed in comparison. A mass famine every decade. The difference between Native americans/Red Indians and the Indian Indians was that there were no exotic diseases introduced which destabilized society to the core. British Tax collection was turning the mughal zamindari system into full fledged tax farming and short term profix maximization. The one famine the british managed to prevent, they complained that profits were too low and returned to the older system. Tankbuster has issued a correction as of 13:53 on Aug 12, 2022 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:going by the more conservative estimates the brits let at least 50 million people starve to death in india, and if you go by the high-end estimates and include everything else they did we're talking closer to 100 million
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I mean the population of Mexico dropped from 22-20 million to under 2 million across the 1500s, so I don’t know about nominal deaths it is more but certainly in relatively deaths it was more significant.
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Mostly unintentional though right?
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Weka posted:Mostly unintentional though right? for certain definitions of “intentional” I suppose
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Toribio Motolinia, a Spanish monk that witnessed this epidemic, said: “It became such a great pestilence among them throughout the land that in most provinces more than half the population died; in others the proportion was less. They died in heaps, like bedbugs.”[1]
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“Toribio” is a dope name
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The Royal Air Force appears to have contracted away most of their ability to train pilots https://twitter.com/haynesdeborah/status/1557839741772603392 quote:Demands on the RAF to fly more missions to defend NATO allies in the wake of Russia's war in Ukraine also put pressure on the small pool of pilots that are qualified to fly operationally and to instruct trainees. It's the exact same problem with every branch in every western military
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Pryor on Fire posted:The Royal Air Force appears to have contracted away most of their ability to train pilots Militaries constantly contracting out work always feels like bullshit to me. Contractors get paid more than soldiers and theres more inherent waste by having the chain skim money at every link in the chain. Its just an accounting thing to make "government smaller" by having a bigger pool to the side to make some people richer and just not call that pool part of government.
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Pryor on Fire posted:The Royal Air Force appears to have contracted away most of their ability to train pilots Isn't this the desired outcome? The UK has no independent foreign policy and now its military will need to depend more and more on the US based entities for training and equipment.
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Pryor on Fire posted:The Royal Air Force appears to have contracted away most of their ability to train pilots holy poo poo goddamn. they contacted and reduced inventory on pilot training. Tory brain
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hundreds of years from now people will still be laughing at how in the span of a single lifetime the mighty continent of europe managed to completely neuter and subordinate itself as a vassal to america
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Pryor on Fire posted:The Royal Air Force appears to have contracted away most of their ability to train pilots We had pilots die in an awful crash because their “training” consisted of flying to the UK to use their simulator lol. The contractor delivered aircraft with defective rotors and was extremely slow in providing replacement parts, so they spent minimal time flying. Defence contractors will do more to destroy the west than Foederati. e: Major maintenance could only be done by the contractor due to the contract as well. There’s poo poo like that in the artillery but I can’t post about it, I’ll just say that the government is paying Meggitt $25M to do what could be done outside for tens of thousands at most. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 17:46 on Aug 12, 2022 |
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Militaries constantly contracting out work always feels like bullshit to me. Contractors get paid more than soldiers and theres more inherent waste by having the chain skim money at every link in the chain. Its just an accounting thing to make "government smaller" by having a bigger pool to the side to make some people richer and just not call that pool part of government. The waste is the point. Plus this way the only people who get to wet their beak are the elite class, like Heavenly Father intended, no one lower in the chain gets to make these decisions or get any of the kickbacks. The extra money goes to well appointed dachas in Northern Virginia
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private company underbids what government costs are, charges quintuple later in cost over runs.
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Wheeee posted:hundreds of years from now people will still be laughing at how in the span of a single lifetime the mighty continent of europe managed to completely neuter and subordinate itself as a vassal to america Would you rather had the colonial empire of European nations stay intact?
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Fish of hemp posted:Would you rather had the colonial empire of European nations stay intact? it has, just as a vassal
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Wheeee posted:hundreds of years from now people will still be laughing at how in the span of a single lifetime the mighty continent of europe managed to completely neuter and subordinate itself as a vassal to america they didn’t subordinate themselves, we subordinated them, with bombs and bonds the likes of which the world had never before seen. euros are weak, feebleminded creatures , who need firm american guidance lest they get confused and begin murdering everyone around them. it is for the best that we keep them suppressed, and god willing, we will drain them of every last drop of blood before we let them free.
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Lol the RAF can't train it's own pilots but it's got plenty of time to train pilots for Saudi Arabia and Qatar because they're paying the MIC.Wheeee posted:hundreds of years from now people will still be laughing at how in the span of a single lifetime the mighty continent of europe managed to completely neuter and subordinate itself as a vassal to america And all while America was in terminal decline.
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https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/smd/2022/08/11/this-infantry-squad-vehicle-is-getting-a-laser-to-destroy-drones/quote:
US Army is thinking of a 20kW laser on the jeep replacement, a 50kW laser on a stryker and the 300kW laser truck looks like this: 
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do any of these lasers work, let alone work better than a phalanx at anti-drone work
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Raskolnikov38 posted:do any of these lasers work, let alone work better than a phalanx at anti-drone work the boat lasers blew up a bunch of small bombs on a sailing dummy in testing videos not sure about the landlubber versions edit: the testing target was a drone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T_wlXJTkd8 Danann has issued a correction as of 03:46 on Aug 14, 2022 |
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Literally “no” if it’s raining, snowing, foggy, or there are particles in the air, say on a smokey dust covered battlefield. 💰
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lasers are low end they should be using plasma bolts or disrupter beams
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Raskolnikov38 posted:do any of these lasers work, let alone work better than a phalanx at anti-drone work the Saudis shot down a drone with their laser defense system…which they purchased from China…. I think the appeal is that instead of shooting a missile or tons of ammunition at a drone which costs significant toy less than your missiles and ammo you instead use light which theoretically only costs some electricity. GlassEye-Boy has issued a correction as of 05:09 on Aug 14, 2022 |
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Yeah it could also be made smaller than the huge amount of ammo CIWS needs.
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don't ask stupid questions like whether military producers are fully subservient to the state or the other way round
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https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1558397105341100033 https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1558397390536986624 t-72b3 is the default choice while russia, belarus, and china opted for BYOT option and brought T-72B3M, T-72B3 Model 2016 and Type-96B respectively
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Raskolnikov38 posted:do any of these lasers work, let alone work better than a phalanx at anti-drone work they've been doing this since the 90s and they've always sucked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_High_Energy_Laser some of the naval ones have been able to destroy small unarmored drones at very close range using the entire power output of a warship
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdqfOqoC7hI oh hey found a video of a tank biathlon round with vietnam's crew and tank highlights: - uzbekistan tank sniper - rip :venezuela: 0/3 on main cannon - go vietnam  edit:Uzbekistan got first place edit 2: venezuela missed their helicopter target rip Danann has issued a correction as of 07:49 on Aug 14, 2022 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:do any of these lasers work, let alone work better than a phalanx at anti-drone work GlassEye-Boy posted:the Saudis shot down a drone with their laser defense system…which they purchased from China…. Relative cost is probably an issue but I'd say the main issue is weight and the logistical train to run that type of gun. The gun itself weighs something like 5800 kg, and you need a generator (and fuel) to run it, and it fires a 20x102mm cartridge at 4500 rounds a minute. That means the ammo for a one second burst is like... 20 kg, give or take? And then the vehicle is probably going to have to be a lot stouter than a Stryker or have ground anchoring to contend with the recoil forces. This is all fine if you're talking about a fixed installation (eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS#Centurion_C-RAM) but if you want to put it in a maneuver unit you're talking about a new type of vehicle that might as well be an MBT for how heavy and logistically intense it's going to be to support as an overall system that is countering cheap highly disposable drones, and you probably can't bring enough ready ammo to defeat a real swarm attack anyway.
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