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Arivia posted:this is a weird first post in the thread. Arivia posted:Then we'd have to PvP because I'm playing Pontius Pilate.  Edit: Xiahou Dun posted:It took me a second to get the joke. It was pretty well crafted. Sorry, I think we're working at Cross purposes.
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I disagree, I think we made a messiah of it.
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Yep I missed it. Did not know that idiom was from Pilate. My apologies.
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Eh, don't worry about it. This whole conversation's noncanonical anyways.
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girl dick energy posted:Eh, don't worry about it. This whole conversation's noncanonical anyways. I don't think that matters one iota. Arivia posted:Yep I missed it. Did not know that idiom was from Pilate. My apologies. That's okay, I'll turn the other cheek. I've found that if you don't know the provenance of an English word or phrase, it's often the Bible. Failing that, it's probably Shakespeare or Mark Twain - who may well be referencing the Bible. Funny thing though, even though I haven't been posting in this thread, I think I participated in the discussion that spawned it from another thread. Everyone who has been participating is a lot more knowledgeable about politics and tabletop games than I am, so I really haven't had much to add. Although I want to play Root now.
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Son of a Vondruke! posted:How does every playthrough not turn into the party defending Jesus at all costs. That's what I'd do. Just to be contrarian. https://youtu.be/dIeuBPDUzB0
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Aug 12, 2022 08:57
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Epicurius posted:There's nothing stopping you from just throwing a fireball at the guy. As mentioned elsewhere, tjojgh, Jesus does habe the ability to get out of combat whenever he wants. If Jesus doesn't die on a cross but instead by getting cut in half by a greataxe, Christianity gets a lot more badass symbol to wear around and put on church walls
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Piell posted:If Jesus doesn't die on a cross but instead by getting cut in half by a greataxe, Christianity gets a lot more badass symbol to wear around and put on church walls Because an ancient and brutal torture and execution device is SOOOO wussy.
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Aug 12, 2022 14:14
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Piell posted:If Jesus doesn't die on a cross but instead by getting cut in half by a greataxe, Christianity gets a lot more badass symbol to wear around and put on church walls
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Aug 12, 2022 14:16
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 Everything old is new again.
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Randalor posted:Because an ancient and brutal torture and execution device is SOOOO wussy. When you wear it on a necklace or whatever its literally just the letter t, an axe is cooler
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Aug 12, 2022 15:01
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Piell posted:When you wear it on a necklace or whatever its literally just the letter t, an axe is cooler Especially when it's a labrys.
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Piell posted:When you wear it on a necklace or whatever its literally just the letter t, an axe is cooler But that's just a capital T. Same goes for hammers
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Tnega posted:Good, now you too can wield a +2 rear end jawbone. How do they approach the warlock class? Can I be indentured to a djinn? They got that covered already in Tasha's.
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I have to ask:. What was the druid subclass they added? Because druids, or nature focused religion in general, isn't really a thing in the Bible.
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Servetus posted:I have to ask:. What was the druid subclass they added? Because druids, or nature focused religion in general, isn't really a thing in the Bible. As a guess, either someone thought that the Easter Bunny and the Christmas Tree originated in some way in the Bible, or someone wanted to incorporate Moses' acts into the game (Rain of Frogs, Parting the Red Sea, drawing water from a stone, ect) and Druid was the closest fit?
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Servetus posted:I have to ask:. What was the druid subclass they added? Because druids, or nature focused religion in general, isn't really a thing in the Bible. It's called the Cucle of the Baptist and meant to represent the variant itinerant baptizers (not limited to John the Baptist) who were wandering around Judea. Your Wild Shape can be used to give you a transcendent form. You get temporary hit points, and advantage on Charisma rolls and concentration roles. At 6th level, you gain the ability to baptize others. There are certain bodies of water that are holy. If you baptize someone in one of those places, they gain a permanent bonus that lasts unless they're baptized again somewhere else. At 6th level, you also gain the ability, if you cast an area of effect water spell that causes damage, to choose people (like the other PCs or bystanders) so that it won't affect them. At 10th level, you get an enhancemt to that so that the people you pick are healed of hitpoints equal to half your druid level. At level 14, your transcendent body wildshape gets better by gaining a bonus to all saving throws based on your wisdom modifier, and if, in that form, you cast any spells dealing damage, you inflict additional radiant damage equal to half your druid level. Epicurius fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Aug 12, 2022 |
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I'll also point out that you aren't required to play a Jewish character. Most if the prestige classes added to this book, except for the Spartan, yhe Vanguard and the Magi are Jewish focused but if you want to play, say, a druid priestess of Demeter or something like that, you can.
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Huh... that splatbook doesn't actually sound that bad. Now I feel a little bad for making fun of the idea of a Biblical-based splatbook. Only a little, mind you. The Bible is still full of weird poo poo and those were all valid references to actual biblical events.
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Randalor posted:Huh... that splatbook doesn't actually sound that bad. Now I feel a little bad for making fun of the idea of a Biblical-based splatbook. I get your hesitation. A lot of explicitly Christian role playing games have been pretty bad. This one isn't great, I don't think. It's very much focused around the adventure that it wants you to go on, and it gets some factual information about the region wrong. I forgive it a lot, though, because of the attitude of its creators, which is basically, "we're evangelical Christians who like playing RPGs and figured something set in the time of Jesus would be fun. We reference a lot of stuff in the Bible, but we're having fun with a lot of it and hope you do too " I also like the fact the book starts off with a conversation about red lines, consent and player comfort, and that its the DM's job to make sure that it's a safe table for their players. More books are explicitly saying that these days, and that's a good thing. Additionally, the game has a faction reputation system, with benefits for a good reputation and penalties for a bad one, which is a fun touch.
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I don't forgive it because, setting religion aside, this stuff is just a repeat of the D20 glut and it sucks.
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Halloween Jack posted:I don't forgive it because, setting religion aside, this stuff is just a repeat of the D20 glut and it sucks. It's still an incredibly popular system.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I have never seen this before Mad TV wasn't always great and maybe had two really good years, but when they nailed it they nailed it.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Mad TV wasn't always great and maybe had two really good years, but when they nailed it they nailed it. I remember liking it better than SNL for the most part, and stuff like the Spy vs Spy cartoons were consistently funny, though some of the recurring sketches they had were just... wtf? Edit: I looked up some of the sketches and... oof. I feel bad for enjoying this show as an idiot 10+ year old when it first aired. I'm honestly surprised it lasted 14 seasons. Randalor fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Aug 12, 2022 |
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Arivia posted:I saw this image in a review of it elsewhere: poo poo, a Yeshua bin Yousef that actually looks Middle Eastern. They get points just for that.
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Is there an RPG expansion book for the Book of Mormon?
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That's just Dragonlance.
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Jeff the Mediocre posted:Is there an RPG expansion book for the Book of Mormon? That’s Dragonlance.
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Halloween Jack posted:I don't forgive it because, setting religion aside, this stuff is just a repeat of the D20 glut and it sucks. Yes, only approved folks should be able to create D&D material.  No, you see, my gatekeeping is different because 
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Anyway, Debate & Discussion > Tabletop Games Have Weird Politics: If the players bring about Jesus' death, great!
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Debate & Discussion > Tabletop Games Have Weird Politics: If the players bring about Jesus' death, great!
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Debate & Discussion > Tabletop Games Have Weird Politics: If the players bring about Jesus' death, great! I endorse this.
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Randalor posted:I remember liking it better than SNL for the most part, and stuff like the Spy vs Spy cartoons were consistently funny, though some of the recurring sketches they had were just... wtf?
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Hostile V posted:Yeah it's legit pretty amazing how like SNL has a lot of oof ouch owie racism but then MadTV was just deeply and unapologetically racist/various forms of -ist for even the time it aired. Even though there's still a lot of bad poo poo going on, and there's a really intense reactionary movement against it, pro-inclusion standards and standards against bigotry have come a long way really really quickly. Edit: Evergreen tweet - https://twitter.com/CBThorburn/status/1377696492295761923?s=20&t=Lk2OgteDMJTKjlDpYuxNmA
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Anyway, Agreed
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I think one of the more interesting things about playing a game with Christian themes in it is you have to all agree to what lore you are dealing with, because a lot of the popular images of Christianity don't come from anything near a source written by someone in authority. A lot of it comes from Dante's trilogy. In addition, looking at that Jesus statblock and more specifically the thing about trying to read his mind, I was reminded of the Inferno White Wolf book and how it mainly went around how to play someone who had a demon on their shoulder, whispering temptations, but you could try an angel instead and that would arguably be even worse for the person. A demon might let the person do good if it thinks it can use that to get them to sin later on but angels would hardly be that lenient. KobunFan fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Aug 13, 2022 |
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