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Frosted Flake posted:I don’t know what it is about Peter Jackson but the preproduction and production design for those films was incredible, absolutely incredible. I don’t know how they knew to expect that from his previous films, but that dedication made those movies work. Lightning in a bottle. He assembled an incredibly talented team and had the right combination of talented people and people that desperately wanted to prove they belonged in their profession so everyone worked their loving asses off for years and for much less than probably any of them were worth.
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The LOTR movies are still insanely good. Don't really know what happened with the hobbit though.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:The LOTR movies are still insanely good. Don't really know what happened with the hobbit though. Nobody wanted to make them. Jackson didn't even want to touch the property until Del Toro dropped out and the producers said "hey either you do this or we're giving it to the lowest bidder" so he had like 6 months to do all of the preproduction rather than the years LotR got and he was more interested in loving with new camera technology than making the movies
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Aug 12, 2022 22:58
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AnimeIsTrash posted:The LOTR movies are still insanely good. Don't really know what happened with the hobbit though. They were great. Better than LORD OF THE FARTing.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Nobody wanted to make them. Jackson didn't even want to touch the property until Del Toro dropped out and the producers said "hey either you do this or we're giving it to the lowest bidder" wasn't del toro kicked out? seems like a self-inflicted wound but they still made a bazillion bucks, sadly.
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StashAugustine posted:The Northman was also kinda nuts about this, iirc they handmade a Viking longboat and repaired the cast's clothes rather than replaced them all of robert eggers’ movies have insane period set design, it’s part of the charm
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Nobody wanted to make them. Jackson didn't even want to touch the property until Del Toro dropped out and the producers said "hey either you do this or we're giving it to the lowest bidder" The studio also forced it to be 3 films instead of 2. I think somewhere here or elsewhere told me that.
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:They were great. 
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AnimeIsTrash posted:The studio also forced it to be 3 films instead of 2. I think somewhere here or elsewhere told me that. one movie could have covered it, there's not much to the book tbh
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Aug 12, 2022 23:07
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Lindsey Ellis' autopsy of The Hobbit movies was pretty comprehensive as someone who followed the production of them well before their release. She covered most of the behind-the-scenes dramatic beats. Here's some random playlist with also her LOTR videos, which I guess were okay. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkyK9N4BdJHAfAzDzighZjqveVXiwGCSx FWIW I thought The Hobbit movies were "good enough", and it's hard to pin down when contextualizing it within broader trends in filmmaking.
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Frosted Flake posted:I don’t know what it is about Peter Jackson but the preproduction and production design for those films was incredible, absolutely incredible. I don’t know how they knew to expect that from his previous films, but that dedication made those movies work. The Frighteners and Heavenly Creatures had perfect design.
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Echo Chamber posted:Lindsey Ellis' autopsy of The Hobbit movies was pretty comprehensive as someone who followed the production of them well before their release. She covered most of the behind-the-scenes dramatic beats. first one is a mess. second one is pretty decent because smaug was fun. third is completely unwatchable dogshit
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See you couldn't even post a gif from Lords of the Farting. That poo poo is from Spoolderman.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:The studio also forced it to be 3 films instead of 2. I think somewhere here or elsewhere told me that. Tolken would have wanted it that way.
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Tolkien would have wanted more slurs in the movie, and I agree it would have made the movie better.
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Frosted Flake posted:I don’t know what it is about Peter Jackson but the preproduction and production design for those films was incredible, absolutely incredible. I don’t know how they knew to expect that from his previous films, but that dedication made those movies work. he really stretched that budget by flouting union regs
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There was one shot in the Hobbit movies that looked like it was shot on a GoPro and it was not something I expected from Peter Jackson.
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Frosted Flake posted:There was one shot in the Hobbit movies that looked like it was shot on a GoPro and it was not something I expected from Peter Jackson. i thought the barrel thing looked like that. also the scenes not involving being in a barrel
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I thought the barrel sequence was fun, it was like something out of a DKC game The podrace of the LOTR prequels
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I used to work for a WB subsidiary (games) and sometimes they would give everybody free blu-rays of a movie, for no special reason other than the obvious unspoken one of "we overinvested in this movie, please take some blu-rays off our hands". Anyway that's why I own the hobbit movies on Blu-ray Also Horrible Bosses 2 and Clash of the Titans 2 and the hangover 2 Oh and green lantern. Most of these I've never actually watched
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I keep seeing previews for that new GoT show and good god does it look cheap who wanted this who is going to watch it taking bets on quietly cancelled after the first season airs or maybe dragged kicking through a second season because the executives that greenlit it can't handle being very wrong about doing that
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Still don't get why they didn't just do the Dunk and Egg stories
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Good soup! posted:Still don't get why they didn't just do the Dunk and Egg stories Not enough meat on the bones, I liked those a lot but let's be real they were three short stories Also I think the three stories had one female character between them and they have to try to win the stillwithher contingent back over after they had Dany do a war crime
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So shoot 3 short stories as a miniseries, have some dignity, make the same budget further and the show look less cheap.
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What were the stories? Trying to remember without looking them up Dunk goes to a tourney and meets Egg. Zero ladies. Dunk and Egg arbitrate a minor real estate conflict in the countryside. One lady. Dunk and Egg go to a birthday party or something and there's a conspiracy there. Were there ladies in this one? Seems like it should have had ladies
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they should just rip off The Witcher because that's how you do adult fantasy know gently caress it have Jon Snow wondering around westeros killing the remnants of the supernatural beasts that escape from the north
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loquacius posted:What were the stories? Trying to remember without looking them up Needs more DROGO
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I thought egg goes insane and sets himself on fire trying to hatch dragons
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Nonsense posted:i thought the barrel thing looked like that. also the scenes not involving being in a barrel Didn't they upgrade the cameras or something and it was filmed before costumes and props understood that
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the hobbit sucks but it gave us some great on cinema content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83etthnOEUk
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AnimeIsTrash posted:The LOTR movies are still insanely good. Don't really know what happened with the hobbit though. Jackson turned the dial from 10 to 11 Good Soldier Svejk posted:Nobody wanted to make them. Jackson didn't even want to touch the property until Del Toro dropped out and the producers said "hey either you do this or we're giving it to the lowest bidder" He was the executive producer, he wanted them to be made more than anyone, he even lobbied parliament to keep wages down so he could make it cheaper. He just didn't want to direct at first, but probably didn't like del Toro's tone/decisions, which is why he scrapped them. Del Toro would have had the balls to keep Fili ugly, and kiss the elf on the lips while still alive 
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Just watched "Crimes of the Future" and I liked it a lot. Not nearly as grody as people made it out to be. ExistenZ was definitely higher on the grossout charts. Feels like a thematic counterpart to Bowie's "Outside" album about murder as performance art and given that it was written around the same time I think that's not a coincidence. I was just a kid in the late 90s so I didn't get the dystopian vibes permeating the art from that era (but I sure as gently caress enjoy it retroactively)
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https://twitter.com/kattenbarge/status/1558132564136759296?cxt=HHwWgMC45fnTzJ8rAAAA Holy hell the heard vs depp trial is still being played out amongst the fans.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:The studio also forced it to be 3 films instead of 2. I think somewhere here or elsewhere told me that. Jackson is the founder/head of 2 of the 4 studios involved the hobbits, no one forced him to do that. Look at his ouevre, for all his strengths bloat is a common element! Echo Chamber posted:Lindsey Ellis' autopsy of The Hobbit movies was pretty comprehensive as someone who followed the production of them well before their release. She covered most of the behind-the-scenes dramatic beats. Content warning: Lindsay barely talks about the problems with the actual movies in that whole long rear end series. It's mostly about how the LOTR makes her feel and then the litany of production problems on the set of the hobbits without any real argument for how that effected the finished films. Like the guy who played Gloin reveals the cast & crew weren't respected and that sucks but what does that have to do with the bad storytelling decisions made by Jackson and his collaboraters on the writing & editing rooms? Like a lot of nerd media it's frustrating how so much time is spent on a subject without ever coming to grips with it.
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Blood Boils posted:Jackson is the founder/head of 2 of the 4 studios involved the hobbits, no one forced him to do that. Look at his ouevre, for all his strengths bloat is a common element! This dude talks a lot more about the actual problems with the movie if that's what you're looking for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TijkFnT8D-U
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Holy hell the heard vs depp trial is still being played out amongst the fans. The biggest misconception about war is that wars end
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I will be watching 0 videos about the hobbit linked itt.
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Yeah I've still never seen the 3rd one and I'm one of those kids that read The Hobbit/LotR through multiple times growing up Also watched those Rankin/Bass movies til the tapes wore out Not enough singing and disco baselines, Mr. Jackson, you hack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y
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