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People noticed Data/Graves's behavior, they just figured he was trying to emulate grieving or something.
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Aug 12, 2022 21:46
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Lal was the only tolerable tng child.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:People noticed Data/Graves's behavior, they just figured he was trying to emulate grieving or something. yeah, they just write it off as Data doing a Data thing, which brings up the question of how often offscreen he was workshopping random personality tics he read about somewhere on a captive audience for everybody to just roll their eyes and ignore it
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Aug 12, 2022 21:51
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I just got my order of "first ten Star Trek movies" DVD-box from the mail, since where I live there isn't any way to watch these movies legally from online. That box included two DVDs of something related, no idea what. I actually thought I bought the Blue-ray -box but whatever. I have seen all that stuff before although I have no recollection of ST5 or most of TNG, but I still reserve a right to comment each and every one of them, after I have watched that.
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The Chairman posted:yeah, they just write it off as Data doing a Data thing, which brings up the question of how often offscreen he was workshopping random personality tics he read about somewhere on a captive audience for everybody to just roll their eyes and ignore it
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Data with cowboy mannerisms was the sweet spot.
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Lord Hydronium posted:Data's a lot weirder in general in those early seasons, like the one where he gets a pipe and pretends to be Sherlock Holmes during senior staff meetings. Actually yeah, in retrospect weird murder "Data" in Datalore doesn't seem that far fetched, especially because Data's introduction as a character in Encounter At Farpoint has him lifting Wesley out of the water on the holodeck by his loving neck and grinning like a serial killer as he holds him suspended in the air completely at his mercy. Season 1 Data is straight up horrifying at times.
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Also a lot more fun and interesting than late-TNG "beep boop i have added a new subroutine to my social interactions programming" 
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:11001001 (I'm almost positive they reused footage from Star Trek III and superimposed the Enterprise-D model over the movie Enterprise) A fun thing is that Probert hated this quote:Going into the spacedock was ludicrous and I was fighting tooth and nail to get them to not do that. The producers simply shrugged their shoulders and said, “Well, we’ll say it’s a bigger spacedock,” but that logic really didn’t work for me. The system that I proposed was that the Enterprise to be serviced and docked on the existing space station exterior, because it has an umbrella-like rim — a mushroom head, if you will — under which the Enterprise could have been docked by connecting the dorsal replenishment systems, but… There’s a lot of things that sort of fell by the wayside and it is what it is.  Not an uncool idea. On the other hand...   
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The Enterprise going in/out of spacedock loving rules.
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CLAM DOWN posted:The Enterprise going in/out of spacedock loving rules. Keep going I am almost there
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It keeps the rain off the warp engines.
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Rewatching Datalore from Season 1 of TNG and laughing that Riker specifically asked Data if the body had a dick
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I can see why young me gave up on Enterprise in S3. This Xindi arc is incredibly tedious. Some good episodes here and there but good god I’m four episodes from finishing it and I just need it to E N D. I still think the show is way better than I gave it credit back in the day, but if I didn’t have the ability to just netflix skip some of these episodes or fast forward to the next one I’d have noped out halfway through.
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Worf posted:Keep going You’ll love the new Beavis and Butthead movie,.
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Worf posted:Keep going The best spacedocks are the ones with edges
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some kinda jackal posted:I can see why young me gave up on Enterprise in S3. This Xindi arc is incredibly tedious. Some good episodes here and there but good god I’m four episodes from finishing it and I just need it to E N D. I still think the show is way better than I gave it credit back in the day, but if I didn’t have the ability to just netflix skip some of these episodes or fast forward to the next one I’d have noped out halfway through. Season 3 of Enterprise is definitely one of those seasons that actually could have benefited from being a 10 or 12 episode season. The ending arc just kind of drags when it should really be rushing to a final confrontation with the Reptilians, the Sphere Builders, and the Weapon purely because they had to fill in 24 episodes and only had the story momentum for about half that number.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Now, Too Short A Season, there's a story that could have been pulled off a lot better in third or fourth season. I actually really like the premise of that one. You can say this for a lot of S1/S2 episodes. Can you imagine The Royale in S5? Also Probert was right about Spacedock. I was a kid who was just old enough to have a few years as a TOS fan under my belt before TNG existed. I immediately noticed the size discrepancy and hated it, one of the first of a long line of nitpicks that would plague me, as they do most Trek nerds. 
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Powered Descent posted:It keeps the rain off the warp engines. Starbase Worldport
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bennyfactor posted:Starbase Worldport That building looks like it would be made to catch all of the dirty engine rain right in the middle for a nice delicious thick soup.
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bennyfactor posted:Starbase Worldport *Air traffic controller supervisor smugly files nails*  That entire sequence loving owns. I know people don't really like that movie (though usually like that scene) Not enough movies involve blasting out of space dock in a stolen ship to go save your friend
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I love how Data goes through such drastic changes in character throughout the series but wasn’t he supposed to have been in Starfleet for 20 or so years already? Did his past crewmates just put up with Season 1 levels of bizarre behavior that whole time?
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Last time I watched S1, I felt like Data settled into his groove about halfway through. It’s just his early season behavior is so bizarre that it feels like it lasted longer.
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moose47 posted:I love how Data goes through such drastic changes in character throughout the series but wasn’t he supposed to have been in Starfleet for 20 or so years already? Did his past crewmates just put up with Season 1 levels of bizarre behavior that whole time? I get the sense that previous crews basically treated him like a robot and didn't really befriend him, and he had less opportunity to evolve. The Enterprise crew engaged with him as a person and friend and thus he blossomed.
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moose47 posted:I love how Data goes through such drastic changes in character throughout the series but wasn’t he supposed to have been in Starfleet for 20 or so years already? Did his past crewmates just put up with Season 1 levels of bizarre behavior that whole time? Think of it this way: It took 20 years for Data to grow up. He joined Starfleet almost immediately after being activated, and his brain was modeled heavily after the human brain, and it takes quite a while for a human brain to mature. Obviously Data started with advanced capacity for reason and decision making, but more or less none for intuitive thought or emotional intelligence.
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I think the novels basically have Data spending his pre-Enterprise time as an extremely efficient paper-pusher
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A.o.D. posted:Think of it this way: It took 20 years for Data to grow up. He joined Starfleet almost immediately after being activated, and his brain was modeled heavily after the human brain, and it takes quite a while for a human brain to mature. Obviously Data started with advanced capacity for reason and decision making, but more or less none for intuitive thought or emotional intelligence. Kind of makes you wonder what they were thinking giving him a commission at mental age 10 though
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skasion posted:Kind of makes you wonder what they were thinking giving him a commission at mental age 10 though Well you've got to get him on the books so he can pass for lieutenant at the mental age of 18
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Kei Technical posted:Well you've got to get him on the books so he can pass for lieutenant at the mental age of 18 Maybe he got a waiver for the "subtle social cues at a diplomatic cocktail party" portion of the entrance exam.
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Astroman posted:You can say this for a lot of S1/S2 episodes. Ehhhh, fifth season is where the series started getting a bit stuffy. I guess if they went for more of a horror angle maybe, but I think part of The Royale's charm is the absurdity woven into the scenario, which I don't think the late-TNG writing staff would have been willing to indulge. And, sure, Probert was correct about it not being right, but there's simply no way there was going to be any other approach to docking the Enterprise; the money just wasn't there to build a new space station model, or even to haul out the Spacedock model to shoot new exterior footage of it.
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Fifth season is where you really start to notice the particle of the week stuff that dragged down Voyager.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgQf0P47VHY Imagine how much more meaningful this would have been if it was on the Big D. Or if... the rest of the movie had followed through on this theme.
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I was watching an episode of the late 80s version of Concentration and this was the puzzle. Spoilered for potentially offensive image.
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Seemlar posted:
That makes so much more sense than just a weird giant mushroom hangar. More like mooring spacecraft instead of parking them. some kinda jackal posted:I can see why young me gave up on Enterprise in S3. This Xindi arc is incredibly tedious. Some good episodes here and there but good god I’m four episodes from finishing it and I just need it to E N D. I still think the show is way better than I gave it credit back in the day, but if I didn’t have the ability to just netflix skip some of these episodes or fast forward to the next one I’d have noped out halfway through. It's really rough and even the exciting moments are often dumb or aggravating in their own way. Everything that wasn't good in the first two seasons is enhanced as the writers grapple with their feelings about 9/11 and don't even really some to any good conclusion. Then the writers got fired and season 4 is the best the series has to offer.
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