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indigi posted:wouldn't it? cheap clean controllable energy seems like it'd give the developer an instant market advantage Yeah to echo what other posters said there's not really a market that can be entered or disrupted anymore, it's just monopolies who crush any startup before they can ever launch. There are still some startups being founded, but these are always created with the explicit goal of getting acquired by one of the megacorps or just being a VC pyramid scheme that never plans on making money. It's about destroying innovation, not creating it. I don't know how it works in energy but in tech this happens almost every day with companies like Amazon and Google. Amazon monitors every new business that uses AWS and strangles them if they see a big surge in sales or traffic and it looks like startup is genuinely onto something. Everything in business is optimized around entrenching your monopoly now, nothing else is allowed.
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Aug 15, 2022 02:17
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ok but whatever Chinese SoE that's funding 50%+ of such a venture isn't simply going to let Exxon buy out the IP
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Aug 15, 2022 02:28
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indigi posted:ok but whatever Chinese SoE that's funding 50%+ of such a venture isn't simply going to let Exxon buy out the IP this is in the context of an American company and fusion
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Aug 15, 2022 02:30
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also there's no evidence fusion will actually be cheaper than fission.
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Aug 15, 2022 02:50
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the conversation was in the context of US/Russia/China competition and geopolitical advantage, who cares what a US company would or wouldn't do. nobody expects the US to roll it out in usable form anyway, those helion people should relocate to Beijing asap
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Aug 15, 2022 02:51
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I have a theory that only country that's powerful enough to manipulate energy price deserve to be in the UN Security Council. US and Russia can manipulate long term fossil energy price; China has fundamentally changed the cost of solar energy in developing countries; France has long term investment in nuclear energy. All of them deserved to be in the UNSC. UK no longer can do it, UK should be kicked out of UNSC. Neither Germany, Japan, not India has the power to do it right now, so none of them is ready to join the UNSC.
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Aug 15, 2022 02:51
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quote:“The statue is a symbol against patriarchal violence during wars and other conflicts, a memorial for all nations to stop this behavior—an apology, and therefore a memorial for peace,” said Angelika Krüger, a member of senior citizens activist group Omas gegen Rechts (Grannies Against the Right). “Because Germany began this terrible war, and Japan was a confederate of Germany, Germany and Berlin has a special responsibility to show that it is important to let this statue, this memorial for peace exist.” I support this woman's efforts but I do sort question her knowledge of Japanese imperialism. I'm pretty sure Germany did not start the Japanese colonization of Korea.
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Aug 15, 2022 02:53
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Trabisnikof posted:also there's no evidence fusion will actually be cheaper than fission. lifetime production+storage+environmental cost of fission fuel is way higher than many forms of fusion, even the "clean" stuff that's a byproduct of other mining operations like thorium. and even if the only fusion that works out is SuperSphere pellets that unit price will eventually come down
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Aug 15, 2022 02:54
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stephenthinkpad posted:I have a theory that only country that's powerful enough to manipulate energy price deserve to be in the UN Security Council. US and Russia can manipulate long term fossil energy price; China has fundamentally changed the cost of solar energy in developing countries; France has long term investment in nuclear energy. All of them deserved to be in the UNSC. UK no longer can do it, UK should be kicked out of UNSC. assuming you just mean permanent members, that's as decent of a standard as the current one
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Aug 15, 2022 02:56
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIXz4f0d8Ro Amusing thing I learned today. One of Taiwan's Lafayette class frigates is named Dihua (迪化), the old pre-communist name for Urumuqi. Dihua was the name the Qing gave to their regional capital established during the Qianlong emperor's conquest of North Xinjiang and means "to civilize". After the establishment of the PRC, the CPC government changed the name to Urumuqi because the previous name was considered to be "demeaning and ethnically chauvanist". There is now a PLA ship named Urumuqi facing off against the Dihua in the strait.
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Aug 15, 2022 03:01
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Atrocious Joe posted:I support this woman's efforts but I do sort question her knowledge of Japanese imperialism. The IJA was trained in Strategy by a Prussian Officer.
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Aug 15, 2022 03:39
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The fossil fuel industry is basically the biggest sunk cost fallacy in the world - nobody invested in it is going to want to stop using it until they get their money back, given a choice, and there's more than enough of it that the world is going to burn to a crisp before we ever run out - we'd get to +10C if it was actually survivable. Further, even if you had alternatives that were more efficient or whatever, capitalism is still going to reject it because you can't concentrate renewables/nuclear, you can't move renewables/nuclear, and you can't make money out of the mere extraction and transportation of the fuel that powers renewables/nuclear. The only way humanity is going to stop using fossil fuels is if they deliberately start destroying the capacity the use it.
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Aug 15, 2022 04:13
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gradenko_2000 posted:. And punish mining it. Fixing climate change is fundamentally at odds with free markets capitalism. State capitalism is fine, probably
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Aug 15, 2022 05:16
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indigi posted:lifetime production+storage+environmental cost of fission fuel is way higher than many forms of fusion, even the "clean" stuff that's a byproduct of other mining operations like thorium. and even if the only fusion that works out is SuperSphere pellets that unit price will eventually come down This is entirely based on conjecture and there’s no evidence of the actual production+storage+environmental costs of fusion, because we’ve never built one that produces power. And the entire history of fission power is a shining example of why you can’t trust physicists’ projections of costs for items that haven’t been engineered yet. “Too cheap to meter” was fission’s slogan before it became fusion’s.
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Aug 15, 2022 05:23
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It's not only capitalism, all military branches use bonkers amounts of fossil fuel in training and then bonkers2 amounts in war, there is no way we fix climate change while manufacturing new conflicts everywhere all the time.
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Aug 15, 2022 05:25
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what if we have a green military tho
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Aug 15, 2022 05:30
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crepeface posted:what if we have a green military tho clean, green, nuclear weapons
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Aug 15, 2022 05:47
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Trabisnikof posted:This is entirely based on conjecture and there’s no evidence of the actual production+storage+environmental costs of fusion, because we’ve never built one that produces power. What if, and hear me out here, we stopped caring about whether things are cheap or expensive and just did them because they're good, instead
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Aug 15, 2022 05:56
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Trabisnikof posted:This is entirely based on conjecture and there’s no evidence of the actual production+storage+environmental costs of fusion ...no
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Aug 15, 2022 06:00
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Like Western countries just flat out won't build infrastructure of any kind unless it's immediate profit like luxury apartments no one will ever live in because short term profit is literally the only thing that matters, and oops suddenly Europe is dependent on resources of the country it's sanctioning
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Aug 15, 2022 06:26
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Slavvy posted:What if, and hear me out here, we stopped caring about whether things are cheap or expensive and just did them because they're good, instead then we already have fission and it already exists and people know how to make it even indigi posted:...no please do show us the evidence of the production+storage+environmental costs of a real world, existing fusion power plant. We don’t know how to engineer them, we have no idea what their actual cost will be. This is the exact same song and dance we got from early fission proponents. Eagerness for something that is undoubtedly neat doesn’t require forceful ignorance of history. the more on topic point that fusion will not be changing US/China relations anytime in the next lifetime
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Aug 15, 2022 07:19
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https://twitter.com/gmanews/status/1559098821023567872?t=kdurj8gywhPK05GCpnMCJQ&s=19 Meet the new boss Same as the old boss
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Aug 15, 2022 09:58
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Atrocious Joe posted:I support this woman's efforts but I do sort question her knowledge of Japanese imperialism. Most westerners will tell you WW2 started in 1939 (or even 1940) and have little to no knowledge about what Japan was doing when in Korea, Manchuria and then the rest of China.
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Aug 15, 2022 10:12
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/gmanews/status/1559098821023567872?t=kdurj8gywhPK05GCpnMCJQ&s=19 Look they have to go there to be charged in the wall outlets with the spirit world.
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Aug 15, 2022 10:37
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/gmanews/status/1559098821023567872?t=kdurj8gywhPK05GCpnMCJQ&s=19 LDP has a intentionally complicated staged voting process that let the old members have overwhelming voting shares. They will keep voting for one of the old boys to be the next PM.
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Aug 15, 2022 11:15
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stephenthinkpad posted:LDP has a intentionally complicated staged voting process that let the old members have overwhelming voting shares. They will keep voting for one of the old boys to be the next PM. That's just what democracy looks like, apparently
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Aug 15, 2022 11:19
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KomradeX posted:That's just what democracy looks like, apparently Democracy is when you have some sham election that the US puts its stamp on, that’s about it.
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Aug 15, 2022 11:33
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Tankbuster posted:Look they have to go there to be charged in the wall outlets with the spirit world. abe in the spirit sending messages though demanding more japanese militarisation
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Aug 15, 2022 11:33
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/gmanews/status/1559098821023567872?t=kdurj8gywhPK05GCpnMCJQ&s=19 Surprised no one's fire bombed the place yet with how much heat it gets everytime some prick decides to visit.
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Aug 15, 2022 14:06
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worrying about the existence of modern japanese cinema japan-invading-china-and-korea movies
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Aug 15, 2022 14:33
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Pryor on Fire posted:It's not only capitalism, all military branches use bonkers amounts of fossil fuel in training and then bonkers2 amounts in war, there is no way we fix climate change while manufacturing new conflicts everywhere all the time. It's funny because the US military has been bitching about this for decades now but Congress keeps banning them from using renewables in the field lol. It's only recently that they've actually been allowed to start putting money in it and even then you've got the heritage foundation and other conservative groups lobbying hard against it. Mattis being trump's defense secretary was the reason trump didn't shitcan the whole thing
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Aug 15, 2022 14:54
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KomradeX posted:They'll build more fusion bombs than reactors, they will build 0 reactors Are not hydrogen bombs a fusion bomb?
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Aug 15, 2022 16:00
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Crowsbeak posted:Are not hydrogen bombs a fusion bomb? Yes, i forgot about that. So yeah they will build a hell of a lot more bombs than they ever do reactors
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Aug 15, 2022 16:09
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well just in a physics sense an uncontrolled (explosive) fusion reaction is a lot easier to engineer than a controlled and sustained one, its no wonder the bombs came first even disregarding the western tendency to weaponize every scientific achievement first and foremost
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Aug 15, 2022 17:13
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More hoping that the real estate market will crash China's economy 
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Aug 15, 2022 19:17
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These articles never acknowledge the alternatives to Zero Covid. They even mention it in the loving article, the US with its DEFINITELY NOT ZERO COVID response has a economy which shrank for two quarters in a row. But hey, lets keep calling out China's Zero Covid as some sort of doomer scenario for their economy, which, oh btw, is still growing.
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Aug 15, 2022 19:27
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[rocking back & forth in a padded room] "By the Time You've Read This China's Economy May Have Already Collapsed"
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Aug 15, 2022 19:29
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lol https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/taiwan-kindle-08122022142057.html quote:Wave of badly written Kindle titles on Pelosi, Taiwan hits Amazon's Kindle platform
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Aug 15, 2022 19:32
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GlassEye-Boy posted:These articles never acknowledge the alternatives to Zero Covid. They even mention it in the loving article, the US with its DEFINITELY NOT ZERO COVID response has a economy which shrank for two quarters in a row. But hey, lets keep calling out China's Zero Covid as some sort of doomer scenario for their economy, which, oh btw, is still growing. The West has a death drive that requires them to kill its citizens for the sake of capitalism even nnn riugh killing them isn't actually doing anything to shore up the rotten fetid system collapse due to sell the contradictions piling up. What's really funny I saw another story about how the US is in the midst of another housing recession which seems more dangerous with our economy focused on that made up bullshit while China's is focused on actually producing things
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Aug 15, 2022 19:34
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Gasp! Only 5.5% growth!? Well thank heavens the US hasn't sunk so low.
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