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Agents are GO! posted:The only thing Alex Jones has been able to do is to delay the consequences while simultaneously making them worse for himself when they finally hit. I don’t think Jones will do that. I think he’s going to go the way of Jim Bakker, much more bizarre, a lot less Tammy Faye (sadly). But to be fair, there will never be another Tammy Faye. 
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teen witch posted:I don’t think Jones will do that. I think he’s going to go the way of Jim Bakker, much more bizarre, a lot less Tammy Faye (sadly). But to be fair, there will never be another Tammy Faye. omg, do you think if we put the man who turned himself blue in the same room as the man who turned himself bright red they will cancel out?
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Aug 13, 2022 22:18
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Froghammer posted:Information about Jones' finances will become more clear as he starts to rack up guilty verdicts in his various civil cases, and I think it's safe to assume that he has a long history of financial chicanery just waiting to be uncovered. I hope he committed something just bizarre and unknown. Like he's been quietly doing simony or something.
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Aug 14, 2022 00:09
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New kinds of tax crime we didn't even K ow existed
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Aug 14, 2022 00:11
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He's been hollowing out dimes and filling them with little slips of yu gi oh cards or some poo poo.
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RFC2324 posted:omg, do you think if we put the man who turned himself blue in the same room as the man who turned himself bright red they will cancel out? isnt the blue from organic silver forever, while Jones red temporary? This isnt even or fair and Jone needs to find a way to be red either forever or long enough.
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PhazonLink posted:isnt the blue from organic silver forever, while Jones red temporary? Nah, it's because colloidal silver dude is moving towards us at relativistic speeds, while Alex Jones is moving away from us.
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Aug 14, 2022 02:25
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'Blue Ascension'? Were they playing Mass Effect when they got yelled at to come up with a name for a shell company?
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Digital Jedi posted:https://twitter.com/openargs/status/1558538591629746176?s=20&t=gU5vmjZSJxjW4Aqy7bfPGQ "We meet again, Mr. Jones. By the way, how's your torn larynx?" - Judge Maya Gamble, sometime in 2023
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Aug 15, 2022 02:23
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FoolyCharged posted:The reason tax evasion comes up is that trying to hide his assets from the courts doesn't stop at the courts; by saying he's got no money here he will also be saying it on his taxes and thus paying well under what he should be. He can't exactly claim to be bankrupt here and then file his actual worth come February, can he? You don’t file your “worth” with your taxes. You’re taxed on net-of-whatever income, not assets held. He can absolutely say “I had a bunch of income but don’t have any of it left because of expenses”, since I believe that we’re talking about corporate assets for the most part. E: he is clearly trying to do shady poo poo with his assets, as evidenced by the various not-arm’s-length transactions that he’s trying to treat otherwise. I don’t think it’s really valuable to just make up “well he must be…” flights of fancy about him committing tax evasion, trespassing, or violations of the Mann Act. The reality is messy enough, and hard enough to follow, without additional fabrication. Subjunctive fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Aug 15, 2022 |
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teen witch posted:I don’t think Jones will do that. I think he’s going to go the way of Jim Bakker, much more bizarre, a lot less Tammy Faye (sadly). But to be fair, there will never be another Tammy Faye.
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teen witch posted:I don’t think Jones will do that. I think he’s going to go the way of Jim Bakker, much more bizarre, a lot less Tammy Faye (sadly). But to be fair, there will never be another Tammy Faye. One of the products Bakker sells is a line of buckets full of survival food. The image of him mixing survival rations with a shovel is not one you'll forget anytime soon. This should be queued up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOH37W0jPpA&t=180s
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Subjunctive posted:You don’t file your “worth” with your taxes. You’re taxed on net-of-whatever income, not assets held. He can absolutely say “I had a bunch of income but don’t have any of it left because of expenses”, since I believe that we’re talking about corporate assets for the most part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HySK5pDrCJM&t=2237s Alex personally withdrew over 60 million in 2020. With his history I think its fair to not give him the benefit of the doubt here.
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Fighting the Globalists doesn't come cheap!
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I don’t think it’s a flight of fancy to imagine that he’s cheating on his taxes. Transparency and honesty aren’t his strong suits, and he runs InfoFreeBlueReset or whatever like lots of other small business petty tyrants in America do. And he hates the government.
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How was Jesse Ventura when it came to his conspiracy theory stuff compared to Jones? I missed most of the era of nearly 15-20 years ago when he seemed to have been a bit of a popular figure in that realm.
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Remember that both Jesse Ventura and Mike Lindell were born in Minnesota so they sound similar.
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I used to work at a store that sold the My Pillow way before the lawsuits and trump bullshit and just from the image on the box I assumed he was a southern dandy type, with a gentle Carolinian accent. First time I heard him actually speak it was like he was saying "ain't got time to sleep" or like he was going to proclaim his pillow would make you a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus. It threw me for a bit of a loop.
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JediTalentAgent posted:How was Jesse Ventura when it came to his conspiracy theory stuff compared to Jones? I missed most of the era of nearly 15-20 years ago when he seemed to have been a bit of a popular figure in that realm. He used to be on InfoWars all the time. Which, to be fair, he spent most of the time telling Alex he's dumb as hell and poking holes in his bullshit. But he still kept coming on InfoWars and had his own conspiracy theory poo poo, they were just not as laughable because Ventura at least tried to be consistent. And I don't think he was as overtly racist, maybe? By which I mean I don't specifically remember him saying anything racist beyond the background levels of being a 60+ white guy from the Midwest. And I remember him sticking up for Hispanics a few times, but like "no we shouldn't put them in camps", not nuanced positions on diversity.
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As far as batshit insane conspiracy theorists go, Jesse Ventura seems relatively ok. He was willing to go up against the chud boot lickers and call out Chris Kyle. He also went after jan 6 dipshits on chris Jericho's podcast. I guess Jericho's wife was a jan 6 participant and he cut immediately to commercial when Ventura said he'd kill any riotsr with a confederate flag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZtxuL4lMxM
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Ventura attempted to unionize WWF wrestlers in the 1980s. Supposedly, Hulk Hogan ratted him out. He also refused to give a Confederate flag back that Minnesota had captured in the Civil War. quote:Jesse Ventura in getting a blood-soaked, bullet-pierced Civil War flag returned from the Minnesota Historical Society. "Absolutely not," the governor said Monday at the White House, where he was participating in the National Governors Association annual meeting. "Why? I mean, we won." That is not to say that Ventura is completely sane. He was in Vietnam and he's been in pro wrestling. Either alone would be enough for some really whacked out opinions and he was involved in both. There are no completely good people in pro wrestling, just some less lovely than others.
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I remember him being a big 9/11 truther, but now Jesse's conspiracies just seem like grandpa's drunk again. " You know the CIA flew drugs out of Cambodia?" "Yes, we know grandpa." "They flew them into Harlem to poison black people." " WE KNOW, but its time to change your diaper again."
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Burning_Monk posted:I remember him being a big 9/11 truther, but now Jesse's conspiracies just seem like grandpa's drunk again. Isn't that true though? The crack epidemic Reagan used to fund contras? Or is that part of the  ?I wasn't alive during that time, but I've heard that sort of stuff said before.
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RC and Moon Pie posted:Ventura attempted to unionize WWF wrestlers in the 1980s. Supposedly, Hulk Hogan ratted him out.
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god please help me posted:Isn't that true though? The crack epidemic Reagan used to fund contras? Or is that part of the Yeah it was true but it wasn’t news to anybody.
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Digital Jedi posted:https://www.reuters.com/legal/exclusive-inside-alex-jones-jury-room-tensions-pizza-lizard-people-2022-08-15/ This article kills me because it sounds like the jury actually did a good job following the rules as they were told to them. They had a hard time putting a number to emotional suffering because it’s hard to quantify. But everyone agreed that Jones needed to be punished, and they were pretty aggressive in punishing him—they wanted to take 10% of his net worth per parent. If every other jury acted this way for a total of 20 kids Jones would lose everything twice over. Shame about the punitive damages being reduced though. It really does seem like that subverts the will of the jury.
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Cantorsdust posted:This article kills me because it sounds like the jury actually did a good job following the rules as they were told to them. They had a hard time putting a number to emotional suffering because it’s hard to quantify. But everyone agreed that Jones needed to be punished, and they were pretty aggressive in punishing him—they wanted to take 10% of his net worth per parent. Heartening that even the lowest suggestion on compensatory was 500k, and that it doesn't sound like there was really any disagreement about the punitive, but Cantorsdust posted:It really does seem like that subverts the will of the jury. 100% yes
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I mean, that's literally what the law is designed to do. It actively requires an ignorant jury and preys on that. It pretty much exists solely to functionally remove punitive damages from the rich in Texas. Because let's be real, if you're poor 200k is still a poo poo ton of money and will wreck you.
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FoolyCharged posted:I mean, that's literally what the law is designed to do. It actively requires an ignorant jury and preys on that. It pretty much exists solely to functionally remove punitive damages from the rich in Texas. Yup. The judge even mentioned this after she dismissed the jury and Reynal complained that the non-final judgment did not comport with Texas law. She said something like "Yeah I know, in Texas we trust the jury 100% and then we don't. I'm sure that whatever judgment is signed with comply with Texas law." Punitive damages caps have been found unconstitutional before, and while the plaintiffs are not as good as the Neil and Scarlett, there are cases pending before the SCoTX right now to strike it down again.
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Agents are GO! posted:Then just put on the 3D Glasses! No don’t
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god please help me posted:Isn't that true though? The crack epidemic Reagan used to fund contras? Or is that part of the Reagan funded the contras by selling weapons to Iran. The crack epidemic occurred concurrently, but was only tangentially related. It happened mostly because people figured out how to freebase cocaine (turning the very impure cocaine that you'd normally get at the street level into pure "crack" rock). That discovery was similar to how the opioid epidemic got started with the high-quality, ultra-pure oxycodone hitting the market. The difference is that oxycodone was manufactured by drug companies, while crack was manufactured at the street level. Nobody was shipping crack into communities, drug dealers in the communities were getting low-quality coke and turning it into crack. And while the contras (and various other right-wing South American forces) were definitely selling cocaine to drug networks in the US to supplement their Reagan-provided income, they were only one of many different organizations doing that. So the "Reagan introduced crack to black neighborhoods" is one of those conspiracy hooks that sounds plausible, but doesn't hold up to scrutiny. The real harm that Reagan did to black communities in the US had much more to do with the way his administration pushed racist agendas, undermined labor, and cut support for those communities. The rise in things like crack use and gang violence were the symptoms, not the disease.
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FYI, the newest Opening Arguments (coming out tomorrow for non patrons) confirms that CT punitive damages are limited to litigation costs
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Piell posted:FYI, the newest Opening Arguments (coming out tomorrow for non patrons) confirms that CT punitive damages are limited to litigation costs great system
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Piell posted:FYI, the newest Opening Arguments (coming out tomorrow for non patrons) confirms that CT punitive damages are limited to litigation costs In that case it is both well known and the jury gets to be told, explicitly so they will pile on the compensatory damages
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RFC2324 posted:In that case it is both well known and the jury gets to be told, explicitly so they will pile on the compensatory damages It's compensation for not being able to dole out punitive damages! That works, right?
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