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ShaneB posted:Because Maro's definitions are whack. It's like a legitimately playable card. Oh it's Lilli?
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Are you saying they're the exception or have to follow the rule because they've shown art from the decks and guns are very prominent. I am saying universes beyond clearly is an exception.
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Aug 15, 2022 19:53
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big cummers ONLY posted:"that rhino has a gun". I yelled this out loud when I was cracking packs and seeing all the art for the first time It's still in the top 5 card arts from SNC imo
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Aug 15, 2022 20:14
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Y'all gonna feel super foolish when Oko, Thief of Crowns gets reprinted and turns all the invading Phyrexian armies into harmless deer saving the day.
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Aug 15, 2022 20:26
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Judgy Fucker posted:"New evergreen counter"--I think every evergreen keyword already has a counter, so I'm guessing this is either a new evergreen keyword that's also getting a counter, or a new counter that does something else? A counter that makes a permanent legendary, for instance (see: “As long as enchanted creature is legendary”)? Isn't "ward x" evergreen now, to take the place of hexproof (taking the place of shroud/protection)?
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/education-ulf-2022-08-15 Calling it, Ulf is mtg's Rincewind. Future professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography.
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fadam posted:Hmm, anything obvious jump out to you guys? My buddy says the character that’s getting a card is someone named Gix. Gix would make a lot more sense in Brother's War, the story where Gix originated. He lead the Phyrexian charge on Dominaria when Mishra let him through. If they're incorporating any of The Thran into Brothers War they could even do a pre-phyrexian version of him. But obviously who knows, maybe that's part of the time travel shenanigans.
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Aug 15, 2022 20:43
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Drewjitsu posted:Isn't "ward x" evergreen now, to take the place of hexproof (taking the place of shroud/protection)? Hmm that makes a lot of sense. Could see ward tokens being a thing, yeah
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Aug 15, 2022 21:29
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fadam posted:Unforgivable lol. It was a bad limited set, they didn’t run you over with a car. get their rear end
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Aug 15, 2022 21:37
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Judgy Fucker posted:Hmm that makes a lot of sense. Could see ward tokens being a thing, yeah Seems like it might be weird just because ward costs are always different. Like would it be a “Ward 3” counter or something?
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Aug 15, 2022 22:15
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HootTheOwl posted:Oh it's Lilli? Last Hope reprint would be nice, or maybe Untouched By Death. There's no way it'll be LoTV because of lore implications. Judgy Fucker posted:Hmm that makes a lot of sense. Could see ward tokens being a thing, yeah Landwalk counters
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Aug 15, 2022 22:16
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fadam posted:Seems like it might be weird just because ward costs are always different. Like would it be a “Ward 3” counter or something? Ward value equal to the number of ward counters on it, maybe? That's starting to get into pretty clunky territory but also seems intuitive enough.
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Aug 15, 2022 22:25
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Yeah, but ward discard a card. Or pay 3 life. Does protection have counters? I feel like it would be the same
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Aug 15, 2022 22:28
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HootTheOwl posted:Yeah, but ward discard a card. Or pay 3 life. maybe shield is becoming evergreen? or whatever it was called, the not-regen regen one
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Aug 15, 2022 22:42
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ilmucche posted:maybe shield is becoming evergreen? or whatever it was called, the not-regen regen one Shield counters. The attributes of the counter are inherent to the counter itself, like the +1/+1 of a +1/+1 counter, as several wordy-rear end mythic rares like Titan of Industry do not specify an effect tied to the counter.
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Aug 15, 2022 22:51
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HootTheOwl posted:Yeah, but ward discard a card. Or pay 3 life. They can make ward counters for the most common forms of ward that make intuitive sense without making ward counters for every type of ward, IF it is ward.
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whydirt posted:Rampage returns in counter form Bushido and/or flanking counters
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Silhouette posted:Last Hope reprint would be nice, or maybe Untouched By Death. There's no way it'll be LoTV because of lore implications. Somehow, the Demons returned. boom, nailed it
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Defender counters aren't a thing yet. I could see a spell or creature that turns creatures I to stone handing them out.
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Cumulative Upkeep Counter It's a counter that makes you put age counters on it, I don't see what's so confusing
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If they would do a Karn reprint, my guess would be Karn, Scion of Urza. Liliana, The Last Hope seems like it would be safe to reprint. Reprinting Teferi, Hero of Dominaria would satisfy all the criteria we've read (and he is in the set art). Might be miserable to face repeatedly in Arena queues but seems much more palatable than Time Raveler. This option is not a "playable card" in my opinion, but maybe ShaneB is a WotC psy-op, and they've already namechecked him in the story, so: Teferi snaps his fingers, skibidi woo, Venser's back somehow.
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wait hold on they're totally going to ape avengers infinity war / endgame and have sheoldred destroy the golgothian sylex, so karn goes back in time to grab it from the brothers' war
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You know, Ulf is the anti-Ertai. Ertai was an arrogant prodigy who didn’t study well.
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Liliana side story: Okay so that was fun, I think. Especially with the Lim-Dül retcon and whatnot. But are you telling me that the writer had no inkling to be like hmmm wouldn't this character who's part of a whole team of planeswalkers even think to notify that whole freaking group since she essentially confirmed what they were searching for across a bunch of sets of this story??? It also bugs me Teferi and Ajani, didn't notify Gatewatch in any way shape or form. Why have a super powered group if you're not going to use them??? poo poo call Sorin, call Nahiri, although it wouldn't surprise me if she got turned into Not-Borg offscreen after her sojurn back through Zendikar. I do sort of wonder if Elspeth is going to play a bigger part in this eventually with her new Angel Drug sword after all the hub bub about where she's originally from etc etc etc.
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I would guess the evergreen counters are “creature type counters” because it would be an easy way to show things becoming Phyrexian, and there’s a lot more that could be done with that mechanic generally.
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Jiro posted:Liliana side story: Okay so that was fun, I think. Especially with the Lim-Dül retcon and whatnot. But are you telling me that the writer had no inkling to be like hmmm wouldn't this character who's part of a whole team of planeswalkers even think to notify that whole freaking group since she essentially confirmed what they were searching for across a bunch of sets of this story??? It also bugs me Teferi and Ajani, didn't notify Gatewatch in any way shape or form. Why have a super powered group if you're not going to use them??? People in the main story also refusing to ask for help keeps happening and it keeps being to their detriment. All the while they're trying to do the titular Uniting of Dominaria.
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I thought the Gatewatch officially disbanded like….six sets ago? Wasn’t that the story beat around that G/B Nissa printed a little while back?
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vegetables posted:I would guess the evergreen counters are “creature type counters” because it would be an easy way to show things becoming Phyrexian, and there’s a lot more that could be done with that mechanic generally. this is great works with things getting zombified, frogged, horrored, slimed etc
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AlternateNu posted:I thought the Gatewatch officially disbanded like….six sets ago? Wasn’t that the story beat around that G/B Nissa printed a little while back? Nissa was g/b bc she turned emo when chandra broke up with her
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mandatory lesbian posted:Nissa was g/b bc she turned emo when chandra broke up with her Understandable
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My favorite was the trapped in the tower story, where they knew they wanted a Thing-style danger mystery so they have everyone act as if they've never had a thought before in their lives and they aren't about to start now, for the sake of throwing the tropes in. One of these five characters may be a spy! Who is it? Is it Karn, beloved character from fan-favorite plot? Is it Jaya, the only one who has any actual way to hurt the enemies? Is it Teferi, with much unresolved plot? Is it Jodah, who fulfills the Marvel sass quota? Or is it Stan, the character we just introduced? It could be anyone! Or the completely inadvisable decision to split the party repeatedly despite the enemy demonstrating the ability to split into multiples, and also the previously mentioned only one of them has any real ability to hurt it. But, they needed to do so several times so Karn could get everyone alone so he could do the fake intel espionage thing. Also the zombie movie thing of Jaya getting a flesh wound and oh no! Now she could be infected! (It doesn't come up again and doesn't matter; also Teferi gets hurt even harder and no one is concerned about him getting infected.) And then none of it matters anyway because the whole point of keeping the tower sealed was to prevent the phyrexian from getting out and infecting people, but half the city is infected already anyway.
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In the magic lore do people know about the five colours of magic?
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mandatory lesbian posted:Nissa was g/b bc she turned emo when chandra broke up with her They both knew they only ever cared for each other platonically anyway
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Nighthand posted:My favorite was the trapped in the tower story, where they knew they wanted a Thing-style danger mystery so they have everyone act as if they've never had a thought before in their lives and they aren't about to start now, for the sake of throwing the tropes in. I might be misunderstanding but one of the hallmarks of The Thing is that the characters do think and use thier tools to try figure out who is infected and such
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fadam posted:In the magic lore do people know about the five colours of magic? Yes, or at least they do on some Planes and I would think most Plansewalkers would know. If you are some random wizard living on a mountain who has never left you might not know there is no red magic though.
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mandatory lesbian posted:I might be misunderstanding but one of the hallmarks of The Thing is that the characters do think and use thier tools to try figure out who is infected and such You're right, I just meant the framing of "there's a monster that could be any one of us", not that the Thing had people acting stupid. The stupid comes from the writers hammering the intelligence out of every character to fit their framing so they could write that "mystery".
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neaden posted:Yes, or at least they do on some Planes and I would think most Plansewalkers would know. If you are some random wizard living on a mountain who has never left you might not know there is no red magic though. But...mountains are the red magic land...myth busted Nighthand posted:You're right, I just meant the framing of "there's a monster that could be any one of us", not that the Thing had people acting stupid. The stupid comes from the writers hammering the intelligence out of every character to fit their framing so they could write that "mystery". Gotcha
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fadam posted:In the magic lore do people know about the five colours of magic? I think the Thran invented mana batteries and therefore knew. Urza, I assume knew and channeled white mana to kill Yawgmoth during the Invasion. Mirrens probably knew because of their suns. Otherwise I think it varies from plane to plane.
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vegetables posted:I would guess the evergreen counters are “creature type counters” because it would be an easy way to show things becoming Phyrexian, and there’s a lot more that could be done with that mechanic generally. Sliver counters.
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