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That was on par with other 80s cars like yugos, fiats, and the 308.
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Motronic posted:lol Yeah you have to go back over 35 years to find cars where the timing belt was an actual pain in the rear end unlike anything in the last 20 years and first Porsche 928's are 46 years old how the hell are they that old now
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The '13 TDI timing belt is 130k, which was an impressive improvement over the 90k of the original TDIs.
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The 1.6D in my 2006 V50 had a 240k km (150k miles) interval, which in practice means the belt will only be replaced once or twice for the life of the car. The same engine in the Focus and 207 had a 160k km (100k miles) interval tho???
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Yeah you have to go back over 35 years to find cars where the timing belt was an actual pain in the rear end unlike anything in the last 20 years and first Porsche 928's are 46 years old how the hell are they that old now Holden had to reduce the replacement interval on some Astras down to 60,000km. I think the newest of those would be from 2005 though.
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Motronic posted:944s need the timing and cam belts re-tensioned every 15k for the early ones lol. (and replaced every 30 regardless of manual or automatic tensioner) What the actual gently caress.
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Well this is going back about 10 years or so when I was working at independents but VW cambelt intervals were 40-60k miles. Fords were the odd ones out with 100k mile belt changes. I think my Clio 172 5 years or 70k or something. My point is that I'd rather have to do as little maintenance on my personal vehicles as possible
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Anyway, putting the chain on the back of the engine, or rather not having the chain tension and auxiliary belt tension all on one end, helps to balance out the loading on the crank
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fridge corn posted:Anyway, putting the chain on the back of the engine, or rather not having the chain tension and auxiliary belt tension all on one end, helps to balance out the loading on the crank It seems then optionally we would want the timing chain in the middle of the engine like the Cizeta V16T 
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Motos do it without issue. Also I'm the dual cis-e
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IIRC, the GM 3.4l Dohc from the 90s used to strike fear in to mechanics when the timing belt needed to be changed.
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the LQ1 also had a chain because it used the original pushrod based block.
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Powershift posted:It seems then optionally we would want the timing chain in the middle of the engine like the Cizeta V16T Owns
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honda whisperer posted:What the actual gently caress. It’s an interference engine too. Lol
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fridge corn posted:Owns Still occasionally wonder about the alternate universe where this was the Diablo (or vice versa or whatever)
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This loving thing https://i.imgur.com/KneByRy.mp4 Seems like a pointless complication waiting to fail
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mobby_6kl posted:Seems like a pointless complication waiting to fail Ain't that what most awesome car things are?
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mobby_6kl posted:This loving thing Holy loving poo poo I would not want go under that thing. That does not look like a very firm 'locked' position for holding a full sized car that high up in the air.
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Another thing about timing chains: some dipshit manufacturers drive the water pump on the "lifetime service" timing chain. This is a bad idea for multiple reasons. Let's explore two. First, the water pump will eventually leak. When this happens, the water contaminates the oil that the timing chain lives in. Wonderful! Second, when the water pump leaks, locks up, or even if the owner wants preemptive replacement, the timing chain needs to come off. Off the top of my head, Chrysler's god-awful 2.7L V-6 and Ford's 3.5/3.7L V-6 familes both have this terrible design. Getting a car that high off the air on a STREET seems like an absolutely terrible idea no matter how reliable the lifting device is and how well it locks. PBCrunch fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Aug 15, 2022 |
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the ecotec and quad-4 also share that feature. And at the polar opposite end you have cam belt driven coolant pumps which are designed to last precisely the life of the belt. Somtimes featuring idler pulleys with coolant jackets through them. Also designed to last exactly one belt interval. gently caress you Toyota. gently caress you.
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cursedshitbox posted:the ecotec and quad-4 also share that feature. Or in the case of the plastic impeller water pumps that VW liked to use, designed to last half the life of the belt 
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mobby_6kl posted:This loving thing Seems like a huge investment that would never pay off with oil changes or any other run of the mill mobile maintenance you could possibly do And then when it does fail you're really hosed
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Other terrible car stuff, some rear end in a top hat kids got into my car AGAIN on Saturday night. I have ordered some Lora-based sensors that I'm going to wire to the door trigger on my vehicles and integrate with my home automation setup. I already installed one such sensor in my pickup. I have tested the automation flow* and it seems to work. Hopefully I can catch the little assholes in the act next time. * Passive arming based on these conditions:
Lora is a low-bandwidth, long-range wireless technology. I have tested the sensors in the car and they work from almost three blocks away when inside the metal box that is a car interior. PBCrunch fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Aug 15, 2022 |
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cursedshitbox posted:Gears make what power cannot. Taller tires make up for some of it, but yeah, if you need to shift stuff, just not fast, that'll do it. My dad has his dad's '70 Chevy C20 Longhorn with a 350, granny 4-speed, and IIRC, 5.16 (maybe 5.13. 5.x, anyway. It's been a while since I looked at the options sheet inside the glovebox door) gears. In first it would pull away at idle, and probably with a loaded trailer. Of course, it was also doing like 5K RPM at 60 in 4th. Came with the farm-standard hand throttle, too, for hay-hauling duty. Redneck cruise control. CommieGIR posted:The '13 TDI timing belt is 130k, which was an impressive improvement over the 90k of the original TDIs. Our Kia Spctra5 was...75K? I did it twice, once just before we sold it at almost150K miles. I wasn't unhappy with that. I only did the belt the first time, tensioners and idler the second time. Turned out there was nothing wrong with the tensioner, but the idler was a bit rumbly, as I recall. On the other hand, my Crown Vic has over 200k on the 6' of timing chains. I should probably service those and the tensioners. Got a little rattle on startup.
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mobby_6kl posted:This loving thing
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Darchangel posted:Taller tires make up for some of it, but yeah, if you need to shift stuff, just not fast, that'll do it. 33s maybe 35s. class 5-6 somewhere around a 40. I wanna run 4.88 on 42s. My old rear end high mileage moto has all kinds of chain slop going on in its two cam chains. Its rattly when hot. Its rattly when cold. its rattly and loud. idgaf. I'm probably not going to replace them. Its a really early run engine with like 10 strikes against it. The flywheel is pressfit to the crank and tends to friction weld itself to said crank. That has to come out to do one of the two cam chains. By the time I update that bullshit, apply all the other production run updates, and replace all the worn or damaged parts I could have bought a running takeout which can include the next generation of engine with even fewer issues.
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mobby_6kl posted:This loving thing This would be one of the most awesome things for a remote rally service point
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:This would be one of the most awesome things for a remote rally service point I can't help but think a way simpler, cheaper and more gravel friendly version is quick jacks or similar on a flatbed tow truck? You could build in oil collection tank and poo poo, on board genny (or hell, big ol EV battery these days), air compressor, tool chests, everything.
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BuckyDoneGun posted:I can't help but think a way simpler, cheaper and more gravel friendly version is quick jacks or similar on a flatbed tow truck? You could build in oil collection tank and poo poo, on board genny (or hell, big ol EV battery these days), air compressor, tool chests, everything. Like the way literally everyone does it already where it's allowed? QJ even makes a version with a 12v hydraulic pump so you don't need the genset.
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Motronic posted:Like the way literally everyone does it already where it's allowed? QJ even makes a version with a 12v hydraulic pump so you don't need the genset. Well I did try to find a picture of such a setup but didn't have much luck, so I figured I'm the smartest big brain and clearly I'm the first person to figure it out. Good that you bought me down a peg, otherwise I might have looked like a real fool.
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BuckyDoneGun posted:Well I did try to find a picture of such a setup but didn't have much luck, so I figured I'm the smartest big brain and clearly I'm the first person to figure it out. Good that you bought me down a peg, otherwise I might have looked like a real fool. You're not being brought down a peg, I'm saying that your postulating is what actually happens in real life rallies, not just internet posting. You're not going to find many pictures because everyone is too busy to take them and there's no cell service anyway. I have exactly two pictures from the last rally. One was sent to me and I got it once I was back in cell phone range.
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BuckyDoneGun posted:I can't help but think a way simpler, cheaper and more gravel friendly version is quick jacks or similar on a flatbed tow truck? You could build in oil collection tank and poo poo, on board genny (or hell, big ol EV battery these days), air compressor, tool chests, everything. Flatbed tow trucks are too big to fit up some of roads for remote service points. A well set up van is perfect and mostly that van is exactly what you want and a wheeled jack like that that can handle some rougher areas would be the thing to lift the car and do some of the more simple tasks. If you need to get under the car then sill stands are still required but in the main for a remote service, if you need to get under they car, you have the kind of problem remote service isnt set up for. Edit : And to be clear I'm referring to the whole setup and not just the wheelie thing. The wheelie thing would need to work for gravel and grass / mud which could be done and maybe hmmm.... you could change the base design to be more effective but the main idea is great quote:Like the way literally everyone does it already where it's allowed? Almost no one uses quick jacks on remote service because they are in fact a PITA outside of the main service park. And a PITA in the service park frankly. quote:because everyone is too busy to take them Uhhhhh......... sorry but what? Even in WRC events where your time limits are notoriously short and rigid there's time. If you are too busy you are either horribly set up or are replacing the entire front end of a car that some dickhead AI goon managed not backing off for a double caution onto a pothole on Nambucca Heads stage CAT INTERCEPTOR fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Aug 16, 2022 |
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Almost no one uses quick jacks on remote service because they are in fact a PITA outside of the main service park. And a PITA in the service park frankly. I see you're talking about level of racing where people have still stands. That's not what I'm talking about. CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Uhhhhh......... sorry but what? Even in WRC events where your time limits are notoriously short and rigid there's time. If you are too busy you are either horribly set up or are replacing the entire front end of a car that some dickhead AI goon managed not backing off for a double caution onto a pothole on Nambucca Heads stage Again, mismatched expectations. I'm not talking about WRC. I'm talking remote service at your local/regional event, not something news media show up for in helicopters.
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Motronic posted:I see you're talking about level of racing where people have still stands. That's not what I'm talking about. I am not just talking about WRC events. I'm also talking about the kind of small events out in the back of Bare Cold rear end in a top hat, ACT 10 kms down the end of a firetrail - https://alliancemotorsport.org/newgallery/i.php?/upload/2019/02/23/20190223062953-bf8e6571-xx.jpg on a patch of cold windy paddock which actually are more laid back and not as time intensive and you are in fact sitting huddled around a campfire fighting penguins for space to stay warm for hours at a time and getting equipment in and out can be a real challenge esp keepign well set up and easy to work with. Now for time....WRC events are the ones where you have the *least* amount of time and they still have hours of down time even for the driver and co-driver. Being Service crew? Thats where I do a whole bunch of photography. CAT INTERCEPTOR fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Aug 16, 2022 |
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paying money to have the car potentially kill you every time you try using the tech? uhh. Also a yoke is exactly the shape you don't want to try and be chasing when you need to stop the car doing something it shouldn't like holy poo poo. https://twitter.com/Tweet_Removed/status/1559371194792566784?s=20&t=klFLdBi3KMw4fPgRJYW0hQ Seems Rivian also has assembly issues... https://twitter.com/FthePump1/status/1559007309992300544?s=20&t=klFLdBi3KMw4fPgRJYW0hQ Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Aug 16, 2022 |
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The front fell off
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Scratch Monkey posted:The front fell off Ahem, that's clearly the side.
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JohnCompany posted:Ahem, that's clearly the side. Well look the thing is that the front usually doesnt fall off So what happened? The front fell off, didnt it?
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