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Lady Demelza posted:Pensions are great but the pension age has steadily risen and is now 68, and will probably increase. It's going to be interesting when you've got people with early-stage dementia or arthritis trying to do 8 hour days and either don't realise they are unwell or are afraid to take early retirement. Companies are already required to deal with those under 'duty of care' and early-stage dementia can start to show with people in their 50s. So firstly employers are supposed to adjust the work so they do less complex tasks and then they would probably be offered 'early retirement on health grounds' in bigger companies with pension schemes. It's those who are totally dependent on the state pension or the Nest scheme (whoopy do, I've been in it over a year and last time I looked a few weeks ago, I had built up a mammoth £50 pension pot) who will really suffer. Room 101 refers to a torture chamber in the Ministry of Love in George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. So I guess 303 refers to 3 torture chambers. Not the rats, anything but the rats.
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big scary monsters posted:State pensions are benefits, though I think you're right that that has been pretty effectively obscured on the national consciousness. I was really talking about private pensions, the ones we're constantly told would be hurt if pension fund investments went badly. But yes I also think having different words and rates of benefit for different age groups was a mistake.
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Lady Demelza posted:Pensions are great but the pension age has steadily risen and is now 68, and will probably increase. It's going to be interesting when you've got people with early-stage dementia or arthritis trying to do 8 hour days and either don't realise they are unwell or are afraid to take early retirement. Cheer up, actual dementia isn't a barrier to being handed keys to the worlds largest nuclear arsenal.
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Oh dear me posted:I was really talking about private pensions, the ones we're constantly told would be hurt if pension fund investments went badly. But yes I also think having different words and rates of benefit for different age groups was a mistake. be careful what you wish for because psychos like IDS would love to replace state pensions with universal credit poor old gladys will just have to find more hours or better paid work if she wants to avoid frostbite and malnutrition 
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crispix posted:be careful what you wish for because psychos like IDS would love to replace state pensions with universal credit But if universal credit were the only 'pension', IDS would not want to alienate so many voters by making it so poo poo. It's because other pensions exist that pensioners are so ignorant about and indifferent to the reality of life for everyone else.
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Just nationalise all the private pensions and turn it into a sovereign wealth fund. Combine it with that start-up bank and you have a very nice income stream for the state to pay for poo poo. Also a clever back door way of nationalising, sorry, taking into public ownership various types of businesses until oh dear, we've done a socialism.
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not sure the government forcibly seizing private bank accounts is a clever back door way of doing socialism, about a subtle as driving a tank through the front of the bank
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Rustybear posted:not sure the government forcibly seizing private bank accounts is a clever back door way of doing socialism, about a subtle as driving a tank through the front of the bank You say that like it's a bad thing.
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If you want to transfer wealth from the private sector to public spending just raise taxes.
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Yikes I knew that English water was bad but didn't realise most of England is just chugging liquefied poo poo and loving it https://twitter.com/BylinesScotland/status/1559212977353547776?t=NC8FAdghHy3qx9-lDu_Iig&s=19 Possible that privatising these utilities doesn't improve standards? hosed up if true
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Aug 16, 2022 11:24
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Lol the Guardian have a different take on why Starmer's plan is poo poo.
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Not saying it's wrong but interesting that they're posting a 2019 article based on 2015 data. The article keeps talking about us trying to meet EU standards.
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Means tested smart meters.
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keep punching joe posted:Lol the Guardian have a different take on why Starmer's plan is poo poo. Nils, Pratly
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Nil Point
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keep punching joe posted:Lol the Guardian have a different take on why Starmer's plan is poo poo. Show me something liberals love more than the additional layer of bureaucracy required in order for means testing to be implemented. You can't do it. Well, yelling that anyone left of David Blunkett is an antisemite is maybe it, but try finding a 2nd thing they love more
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Alchenar posted:If you want to transfer wealth from the private sector to public spending just raise taxes. Get a load of this guy cam The rich are already pretty good at avoiding taxes, so just adding more isn't going to achieve anything. MMT is the only way, backed-up with a sovereign wealth fund and a goal of owning the entirety of the FSTE 250. We can just hire all the current idiots who are running things to run our new setup, after all all they want is a private jet to fly in, a slapup meal to scoff, and someone to shag. Give them all that and we can get on with rebuilding the nation based on the green revolution and become the leaders of the world again (after educating the populace about the horrors of Empire and then apologising for them)
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notaspy posted:Get a load of this guy cam The rich are good at avoiding taxes because they can afford accountants who work for the big 4, who in turn second staff to "volunteer" for government departments and for example help them write the tax code so they know where the loopholes are. It's not some magical skill they have. Prevent people working in government from working in a field related to the government job they had for X years then suddenly those loopholes get a lot smaller. And easier to close entirely. Put that along side hiring more enforcement officers for HMRC to investigate Avoidance & evasion. MMT doesn't actually solve the issue of one group having everything & everyone else having nothing in the short-term
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notaspy posted:We can just hire all the current idiots who are running things to run our new setup, after all all they want is a private jet to fly in, a slapup meal to scoff, and someone to shag. I dunno if this is a good idea. These people have extremely broken brains after spending their whole careers doing coke and capitalisms. I wouldn't trust them to run a lemonade stand.
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The history of people thinking they can solve capitalism using capitalism is littered with a million lib thinkpieces
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notaspy posted:all they want is a private jet to fly in, a slapup meal to scoff, and someone to shag. Don't need the plane but otherwise this seems a reasonable wish list
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Yeah but they want the kids menu
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Failed Imagineer posted:Yikes I knew that English water was bad but didn't realise most of England is just chugging liquefied poo poo and loving it wait, you drink from rivers? the article indicates that in england all the water companies spew sewage out into rivers at the slightest provocation, not that the tap water itself is bad.
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Tesseraction posted:Not saying it's wrong but interesting that they're posting a 2019 article based on 2015 data. The article keeps talking about us trying to meet EU standards. Yeah, I'm not sure it's an apples to apples comparison to look at Scotland and England in comparison. I certainly prefer the way Scotland does it, but we have a lot of bodies of water that are very far removed from significant population centres, and likely far more bodies of water relative to our population so there's less wastewater proportional to the freshwater for us. It might be more instructive to compare bits of Scotland that have England-level population densities, rather than Scotland as a whole. I'm fairly sure we'd still come out ahead, but maybe not by the ridiculous margin the 2015 data suggests.
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I mean I know our river is a shithole, but the tap water is delicious, if a little warm due to the heatwave.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:wait, you drink from rivers? the article indicates that in england all the water companies spew sewage out into rivers at the slightest provocation, not that the tap water itself is bad. Fair enough, the tap water is probably (?) fine, and the beach side poo tomatoes will be a welcome boon when the other crops fail
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Reveilled posted:Yeah, I'm not sure it's an apples to apples comparison to look at Scotland and England in comparison. I certainly prefer the way Scotland does it, but we have a lot of bodies of water that are very far removed from significant population centres, and likely far more bodies of water relative to our population so there's less wastewater proportional to the freshwater for us. Yeah, Loch Ness alone is more water by volume than all the lakes and reservoirs in England combined, and the Highlands have a population of approximately 3. Wales is the bit that stands out most to me. Also full of water, barely anyone lives in large parts of the country, and yet the water quality is still very bad.
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big scary monsters posted:Yeah, Loch Ness alone is more water by volume than all the lakes and reservoirs in England combined, and the Highlands have a population of approximately 3. Wales is the bit that stands out most to me. Also full of water, barely anyone lives in large parts of the country, and yet the water quality is still very bad. Might be explainable by that bit that says "excludes unknown", if maybe the Welsh water body only monitors, say, the reservoirs and the discharge sites, it might have most of the rural bodies of water as "unknown".
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CLOUDBURST YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, FLOOD ME YOU BITCH
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Failed Imagineer posted:Yikes I knew that English water was bad but didn't realise most of England is just chugging liquefied poo poo and loving it It's most unfortunate that my part of Northern Ireland is full off DUP piss. 
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Just Another Lurker posted:It's most unfortunate that my part of Northern Ireland is full off DUP piss. At least DUP piss is mostly boiled and evaporated before it gets into the water supply
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Dried Ulsterman Piss, for your garden or flowerpots.
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Glasgow is as densely populated as anywhere outside of London and the water quality is great. Then again it all gets piped in from this absolute beauty.
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big scary monsters posted:Yeah, Loch Ness alone is more water by volume than all the lakes and reservoirs in England combined, and the Highlands have a population of approximately 3. Wales is the bit that stands out most to me. Also full of water, barely anyone lives in large parts of the country, and yet the water quality is still very bad. Agriculture probably.
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Tesseraction posted:CLOUDBURST Please don't livepost your sexual exploits.
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It's tipping it down here also. Lovely stuff rain, don't ever leave us again. 
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keep punching joe posted:Glasgow is as densely populated as anywhere outside of London and the water quality is great. Then again it all gets piped in from this absolute beauty. Just don’t go swimming in the Clyde estuary!
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Don't ask me where I saw this. (NSFW but fine if you are not actually at work).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYsbW9eKKRM
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Jippa posted:Don't ask me where I saw this. I don't see the issue here  For some reason I was expecting a young Jeremy Corbyn to strut out
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Jippa posted:Don't ask me where I saw this. Some tough paper rounds there
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