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RenegadeStyle1 posted:Probably Goldberg for me. Cena is Cena and Undertaker is probably the truest version of a WWE legend but Goldberg is a guy that was most popular 25 years ago and didn't even seem to mean much to the WWE. I think this. The Fiend is dogshit but the way he was positioned he shouldn't be getting squashed Goldberg style.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Well, that's that. Mayumi Ozaki has been managed by POLICE for decades
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Well, that's that. Paul Bearer is surely the most famous
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NikkolasKing posted:Which Bray/Fiend loss is the most baffling? RenegadeStyle1 posted:Probably Goldberg for me. Cena is Cena and Undertaker is probably the truest version of a WWE legend but Goldberg is a guy that was most popular 25 years ago and didn't even seem to mean much to the WWE.
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Minidust posted:Baffling but not surprising imo. For some reason WWE can’t help themselves with Goldberg, he’s like the only 100% WCW guy that they’ve booked consistently strong, and at the expense of their own roster.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:Probably Goldberg for me. Cena is Cena and Undertaker is probably the truest version of a WWE legend but Goldberg is a guy that was most popular 25 years ago and didn't even seem to mean much to the WWE. I think the original idea was for Goldberg to be a belt pillow between Fiend and Roman Reigns, but then Covid happened and Reigns went away. Not sure why you couldn't have just run Fiend/Roman. Anyway my most baffling Bray loss is this, from Fastlane '16: quote:Big Show, Kane, and Ryback defeated The Wyatt Family (Braun Strowman, Erick Rowan and Luke Harper) (with Bray Wyatt) like, why
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D.N. Nation posted:Anyway my most baffling Bray loss is this, from Fastlane '16:
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did he eat the pin in a match he wasn't even part of because that definitely would be a baffling loss
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Well, that's that. Do Dalton Castle's boys count as valets? Also, same question but with 3 Count and Tank Abbot.
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How do you figure wrestlers apply to work in other promotions that may be unfamiliar with their work? Do you try to show them some matches of what you're capable of? For example, if you have a tryout match but it doesn't go well because of extenuating circumstances, can you go to the promoter and go "but wait! I am actually good! Look at this match I had!" and then show them that match or something?
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Has Tessa Blanchard seriously not worked ANYWHERE in 2 years? I mean, good, but holy poo poo that's hard to do in 2022.
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TV Zombie posted:How do you figure wrestlers apply to work in other promotions that may be unfamiliar with their work? Do you try to show them some matches of what you're capable of? For example, if you have a tryout match but it doesn't go well because of extenuating circumstances, can you go to the promoter and go "but wait! I am actually good! Look at this match I had!" and then show them that match or something? Unironically probably youtube.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Has Tessa Blanchard seriously not worked ANYWHERE in 2 years? I mean, good, but holy poo poo that's hard to do in 2022. She is or was a part of Women Of Wrestling (https://wowe.com/) though a glance at the roster doesn’t seem to show her there.
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TV Zombie posted:How do you figure wrestlers apply to work in other promotions that may be unfamiliar with their work? Do you try to show them some matches of what you're capable of? For example, if you have a tryout match but it doesn't go well because of extenuating circumstances, can you go to the promoter and go "but wait! I am actually good! Look at this match I had!" and then show them that match or something? From what I've heard, in ye olden days (20 years ago), you'd send them a DVD or VHS but now it's just a Youtube link, either to a comp video or just a playlist with a bunch of matches to show you strutting your stuff.
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TV Zombie posted:She is or was a part of Women Of Wrestling (https://wowe.com/) though a glance at the roster doesn’t seem to show her there. She had a backstage role there, but was semi-released before they launched. Here's some information that I could find: https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2022/05/backstage-news-on-tessa-blanchard-wow/
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forkboy84 posted:From what I've heard, in ye olden days (20 years ago), you'd send them a DVD or VHS but now it's just a Youtube link, either to a comp video or just a playlist with a bunch of matches to show you strutting your stuff. Yeah, Lance Storm and Jericho have talked about sending tapes to promoters, like Cornette and such. I recall them saying something nice about a guy who took the time to write back personally even though he didn't have a spot for them, but I forget who.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Has Tessa Blanchard seriously not worked ANYWHERE in 2 years? I mean, good, but holy poo poo that's hard to do in 2022. Well, CYN had to cancel all their shows, so
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Has Tessa Blanchard seriously not worked ANYWHERE in 2 years? I mean, good, but holy poo poo that's hard to do in 2022. Goodness. Is she really that toxic? I mean I buy it if so, but like you say look at other people who still work. That does seem like a shame, too. She's Tully's kid and Magnum TA's step-daughter. That's as condensed Jim Crockett Promotions as you can get.
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Dawgstar posted:Goodness. Is she really that toxic? I mean I buy it if so, but like you say look at other people who still work.
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thoughts on taz's take here? https://twitter.com/officialtaz/status/1559740741282398210?s=21&t=WvR6U5fDboy94JPhuLRdzw disregarding this place or the internet as a whole does anyone else use wrestling vocab in regular conversations? once in a while I'll use pop or mark since it is pretty apparent from context what they mean. if I actually talk wrestling with someone I will gauge how much of a nerd they are before breaking out vernacular. would never do it to a wrestler's face, feels disrespectful but maybe that's just me
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Critical posted:thoughts on taz's take here? I think it's fair from Taz. Frankly wrestling fans use the lingo more than actual wrestlers do from my experience of when I was in locker rooms with people and so it just comes off as very very tryhard when using it speaking to actual wrestlers. My one caveat is that alot of the terms are very funny and handy to use especially outside of the context of wrestling, describing bad guys in movies as the heels will always be a good time.
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My impression from shoot interviews (which are works, I know) is that wrestlers use wrestling lingo all of the time, especially in non-wrestling situations. My son said he was going to the library but I knew he was kayfabing, so I cut a promo on him
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My take is that wrestling fans saying they mark out or popped or whatever is not cringe, because those are terms related to the fan side of things. The rest, I can kinda see it.
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Calling someone a mark is the most cringe thing a wrestling fan can say. It is however acceptable to use the phrases: jobber, no sell, kayfabe and work.
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And stuff like babyface or heel has filtered into general nerd slang thanks to sites like TVTropes. Still, there's definitely a line where it stops being slang people can easily understand through context clues and becomes cringe.
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Critical posted:thoughts on taz's take here? I'm with him on this. It's very annoying to me when people say poo poo like "that popped me" or talk about something being a shoot because it's a regular thing that happened in real life. Dan Ryckert has been doing this a lot on Giant Bomb since coming back and I find it pretty grating. I don't know why, something about it just rubs me the wrong way and sounds very dumb.
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Taz is not exactly well-known for his nuanced feelings about things. Plus, what, do you have to actively make a living in professional wrestling to be allowed use the terms? What if JOOONY is an indie guy??? Other than referring to ourselves as "marks for [wrestler]" (usually in the sense of that person not being hugely popular overall), I would say the only insider lingo I ever heard any of the guys from my old indy fed use in normal life were, like, "bladed" if someone cut themselves obviously unintentionally or "no sell" usually when someone did not laugh at something or flinch when somebody pretended to hit him or whatever dumb carny bullshit
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Kosmo Gallion posted:Calling someone a mark is the most cringe thing a wrestling fan can say. what if i call myself a mark for someone
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Only when talking politics and prestige TV shows. I always thought it was kinda disrespectful to use them when actually interacting with somebody involved with pro wrestling.
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Lurks With Wolves posted:And stuff like babyface or heel has filtered into general nerd slang thanks to sites like TVTropes. Still, there's definitely a line where it stops being slang people can easily understand through context clues and becomes cringe. This conversation makes me think of an Avengers comic from a few years ago where Cannonball and Sunspot went into the future and were talking themselves up in a bar about being badass Avengers. Then they mentioned how they took down Thanos and the patrons got all angry and rowdy because Thanos is a goddamn hero who saved their lives multiple times and he's considered the greatest Avenger ever. One of them said, "That's a faceturn I was not expecting," and I had a laugh.
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Ganso Bomb posted:I'm with him on this. It's very annoying to me when people say poo poo like "that popped me" or talk about something being a shoot because it's a regular thing that happened in real life. Dan Ryckert has been doing this a lot on Giant Bomb since coming back and I find it pretty grating. I don't know why, something about it just rubs me the wrong way and sounds very dumb. to be fair anything dan ryckert does is pretty grating, but at least he's not actively trying to be a heel in real life anymore
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I think a lot of stuff like heel and face is just Popular Culture Speak now. That said were I talking to somebody who was actually in the business I probably wouldn't even use that. Less common terms like kayfabe can kinda come off as awkward in conversation. And I always thought 'heat' was for heels but some folks use that as a catch-all for crowd reaction but I don't think that's right?
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please don’t tell taz i say ‘oh hi mark’ in order to disguise my wrestling lingo use under a more respectable wiseau façade
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Everyone should use more and more wrestling slang until we perfect the Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo of using gimmick, i.e. This gimmick's gimmick was that he had a gimmicked gimmick that he sold as a gimmick
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Edge & Christian posted:Everyone should use more and more wrestling slang until we perfect the Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo of using gimmick, i.e. This gimmick's gimmick was that he had a gimmicked gimmick that he sold as a gimmick You mean the Tatanka tatanka Tatanka tatanka tatanka tatanka Tatanka tatanka, surely.
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Lunatic Sledge posted:I will refer to things as gimmicks or as being gimmicked until the day I die I think this makes sense because it's not a word specific to wrestling. Same with heels and babyfaces. As a smarky young kid, I was confused the first time I saw "heel" used in a book because I thought it was just a wrestling word as I'd never heard anyone use it anywhere else in the context of "this person is a bad guy".
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