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Powershift posted:Dodge Hornet Looks like an Alpha.
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davecrazy posted:Looks like an Alpha. Funny you say that... 
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Aug 17, 2022 19:34
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davecrazy posted:Looks like an Alpha. That's because it is! e: ^   they apparently couldn't afford much new sheet metal, it looks like everything but the hood and bumper are the same. The dodge is ~$7k cheaper per model.
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Aug 17, 2022 19:36
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Powershift posted:The dodge is ~$7k cheaper per model. So the Alfa is now effectively a trim option on a midrange Dodge crossover?
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Aug 17, 2022 19:39
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KillHour posted:So the Alfa is now effectively a trim option on a midrange Dodge crossover? Or is the Dodge a povo-trim Alfa?
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Aug 17, 2022 19:41
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KillHour posted:So the Alfa is now effectively a trim option on a midrange Dodge crossover? Think of it more of a "Not a dodge" surcharge. Consider how much passion and soul you can buy for $7000 Jeremy Clarkson must be rolling in his grave.
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Aug 17, 2022 19:43
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Powershift posted:Jeremy Clarkson must be rolling in his grave. You got me excited for a second there
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Aug 17, 2022 20:49
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Wait till you see the Lancia Theta!
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Aug 17, 2022 20:57
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mobby_6kl posted:Wait till you see the Lancia Theta! Theta is almost a decent looking car compared to its ancestor, the thesis 
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Aug 17, 2022 21:01
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SlowBloke posted:Theta is almost a decent looking car compared to its ancestor, the thesis Ugliness is on the inside
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Aug 17, 2022 21:02
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mobby_6kl posted:Ugliness is on the inside Thesis and theme best parts were the interiors after all, the Frau leather on the top spec cars was awesome.
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Aug 17, 2022 21:03
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Is the Chrysler nine-speed auto still an absolute gear-hunting piece of poo poo? I remember it being lambasted when the transverse "Cherokee" was released. Per Jalopnik quote:To its credit, the Hornet is clearly aiming to be the spicy one among the myriad small SUVs on offer today. It comes only in two flavors: GT and R/T. Both have all-wheel drive standard, and the base powertrain in the GT is a turbocharged, two-liter four-cylinder producing 265 horsepower and 295 lb-ft of torque mated to a nine-speed transmission — segment-leading numbers, Dodge is quick to highlight. It’ll supposedly start below $30K. No transmission mentioned for the hybrid. Does this mean CVT? I suppose it matters a lot less when there is a pretty powerful rear axle motor helping push things around. The bright side of vehicles like this is the possibility of adapting that powered rear subframe assembly into something else. Mad Max that electric motor into a fun FWD car that would be better with AWD and more power. This is a Chrysler product, so the parts will be in junkyards before you know it. PBCrunch fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Aug 17, 2022 |
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Aug 17, 2022 21:07
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It says 6-speed automatic for the PHEV in the article. Also, new Celestiq spy photos are out if anyone has that kinda cash and is in this thread. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40919705/cadillac-celestiq-prototype-testing/
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Aug 17, 2022 21:21
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PBCrunch posted:Is the Chrysler nine-speed auto still an absolute gear-hunting piece of poo poo? I remember it being lambasted when the transverse "Cherokee" was released. Stellantis uses 6-7 gear DCT units on engines under 300hp, using the ZF 8-9 auto units only for high torque-hp poter units. The tonale uses a 7 gear DCT part on the 1,6l hybrid for instance.
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Aug 17, 2022 21:23
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mobby_6kl posted:Ugliness is on the inside Theres quite a bit of it on the outside too.
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Aug 17, 2022 21:29
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I guess a DCT paired with electric assist could be a decent combo. Hopefully the electric motor can iron out the low-speed clunkiness that everyone except VW gets when using DCTs. Hyundai/Kia apparently uses a DCT in some of its hybrid models. The Juke and Murano convertible are at least creative ugly. Nissan tried some new stuff and it just didn't work. The BMW ix is disappointing because it is a mostly-OK-looking car with an aggressively ugly front clip. Those wheels on the Alfa Tonale in that press shot look great.
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Aug 17, 2022 21:44
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SlowBloke posted:Stellantis uses 6-7 gear DCT units on engines under 300hp, using the ZF 8-9 auto units only for high torque-hp poter units. The tonale uses a 7 gear DCT part on the 1,6l hybrid for instance. In the US, the base 2.0t 265hp Hornet and Tonale are the 9 speed auto. The hybrid is a 6 speed auto with a 1.3 with a 44hp starter/generator but the rear axle is electric so there's no transfer case.
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Aug 17, 2022 21:54
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Mustache Ride posted:Pics or it didn't happen lovely pic because it started raining right after I got the car. I was at the dealer for almost 4 hours. After they figured out the "is it ours" issue the holdup was a fill in finance guy covering while their normal person was in training. This picture doesn't do the color justice, it's really pretty.  The interior is gorgeous though and is what sold me on not waiting for the select. That and my girlfriend loved it. 
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Aug 18, 2022 01:01
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A Dodge with all the reliability of an Alfa? Where do I sign up!?
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Aug 18, 2022 01:47
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The PHEV also doesn't quality for the  tax credit because its made in Italy
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Aug 18, 2022 02:01
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Speaking of the does the Rav4 Prime qualify for it? I've been pointing my friends towards it as the ultimate "normal person car".
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Aug 18, 2022 02:05
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I don't think it's made in the US? Also they're like $75k with ADM now
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Aug 18, 2022 02:25
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Rav4 primes are made in japan. Rav4 Hybrids are made in Tennessee, The regular Rav4 is made in Canada.
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Aug 18, 2022 03:03
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fknlo posted:lovely pic because it started raining right after I got the car. I was at the dealer for almost 4 hours. After they figured out the "is it ours" issue the holdup was a fill in finance guy covering while their normal person was in training. This picture doesn't do the color justice, it's really pretty. Congrats on the Carbon edition, I wish they put the garnet leather in the turbos instead of the black or white seats.
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Aug 18, 2022 03:04
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Throatwarbler posted:I don't think it's made in the US? Also they're like $75k with ADM now lmao
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Aug 18, 2022 06:01
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fknlo posted:lovely pic because it started raining right after I got the car. I was at the dealer for almost 4 hours. After they figured out the "is it ours" issue the holdup was a fill in finance guy covering while their normal person was in training. This picture doesn't do the color justice, it's really pretty. Sweet car, absolutely love mine. Though you should have gone with the red 
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Aug 18, 2022 13:09
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This is fine? Looks decent. They should also make cool looking EVs that don't have a billion horsepower though. https://twitter.com/GeekyGearhead99/status/1560046615498563586?s=20&t=DRp9jVt9cDA6CgY-eO-r_Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5pCyfyeHEs davecrazy posted:Don’t get the point of fake exhaust. People are afraid of change. Plus sound is an important part of the enjoyment of driving for a lot of people hence new ICE cars being so insulated from the outside world they pump fake engine noise into the interior. I assume you're able to turn it off but it's also a concept so it might not even happen if people go "but why?" Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Aug 18, 2022 |
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Aug 18, 2022 13:34
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Don’t get the point of fake exhaust.
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Aug 18, 2022 13:40
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It's very funny to read comments saying "they should put a V8 in this"
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Aug 18, 2022 13:58
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It sounds like a child's toy. The weird spacey noise in the background which is trying to be an engine idling is kinda cool though. Sound ominous which does fit with the looks of the car. https://twitter.com/BurtoniMotors_/status/1560062087153459200?s=20&t=9MpxusLUvZmDOf6Q2dhBSQ *edit: OK it's good. New Charger good. https://twitter.com/jar_rosenholtz/status/1560045795004522496?s=20&t=Y68T15HfWimJ9IqiC9Bd5A Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Aug 18, 2022 |
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Aug 18, 2022 14:18
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The idle noise is kind of similar to Ford's electric truck pedestrian noise but with the bass cranked even higher.
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Aug 18, 2022 14:22
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I'm a v8 guy. I've owned a muscle car/v8 every day of my life since 2003. My current daily drive is a Durango SRT 392. This poo poo is right in my wheelhouse as a consumer, but the fake noise just seems do dumb.
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Aug 18, 2022 14:30
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I have a Challenger and I've been waiting for this to be revealed. I'm curious how much of the concept will make it to production... they have to be almost production-ready, right? I think it looks good but yeah I really don't get the point of the exhaust. It's kinda silly. I'm all about silly normally but that's dumb silly. I'm curious how much it will cost. I love that it's a liftback though.
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Aug 18, 2022 15:22
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davecrazy posted:I'm a v8 guy. I've owned a muscle car/v8 every day of my life since 2003. It just sounds so obviously artificial that I don't like it.
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Aug 18, 2022 15:27
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Sab669 posted:It just sounds so obviously artificial that I don't like it.
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Aug 18, 2022 15:35
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Can't wait for the hot EV mods where dorks increase the volume on their fake Challenger ~exhaust~ to annoy the poo poo out of everyone
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Aug 18, 2022 15:38
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KakerMix posted:Can't wait for the hot EV mods where dorks increase the volume on their fake Challenger ~exhaust~ to annoy the poo poo out of everyone How long until they re-route it through their sound system that shakes the entire neighborhood? 
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Aug 18, 2022 15:39
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Pumping fake exhaust noise into the cabin is a hell of a lot better than pumping real exhaust noise into the cabin
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Aug 18, 2022 15:46
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The wheels on that electric Charger thing look great. They remind me of C4 Corvette sawblade wheels. Too bad we won't get those in real life. The front clip looks great. I like the hatchback. The car itself looks terrible IMO. The front fenders and rear quarter panels are so tall. There is way too much beef above the wheel arches. The whole car looks like it has been heated up and squished in a vise lengthwise. Too stubby. Is Dodge going to end up releasing this as an SUV "coupe"? The weird proportions and the hatchback rear honestly make more sense if the wheels and tires were much larger and the ground clearance was increased.
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Something about the way it looks is off. Like a giant stepped on it and crumpled it a bit. Not saying that it's too short, more that the body lines and proportions look like damage instead of intentional. It might partly be that paint that makes me think of tin foil.
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