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Tulalip Tulips posted:I spent the formative years of childhood in or across the river from Hood River and a sick part of now wants to read these to see how awful they are. I still have some family in the area and I really want to know if they've read these. Bingen/White Salmon was the first area to have a legal pot shop open in the area. Washington was a few years ahead of Oregon, so for a while Margie's Pot Shop in Bingen was doing bang-up business attracting the north central Oregon crowd. Now Bingen has a fairly large Insitu (the drone manufacturer) presence and a lot of folks from Portland have moved into HR/WS, raising prices and making housing unaffordable, causing lots of folks to leave the gorge or, even worse, move to The Dalles.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:Bingen/White Salmon was the first area to have a legal pot shop open in the area. Washington was a few years ahead of Oregon, so for a while Margie's Pot Shop in Bingen was doing bang-up business attracting the north central Oregon crowd. Now Bingen has a fairly large Insitu (the drone manufacturer) presence and a lot of folks from Portland have moved into HR/WS, raising prices and making housing unaffordable, causing lots of folks to leave the gorge or, even worse, move to The Dalles. My grandparents moved up to Seattle in the late 90s and had the hardest time selling their house, despite it having air conditioning and a beautiful view of the gorge and Mt. Hood from the White Salmon side of the river. I can only imagine how much money they'd have gotten for it if they stayed until they died last year. So many old orchards are being converted to vineyards for wine and it always trips me out. My ex-step dad's family had a farm we lived on and it's was sold for wine making a while back. On the other hand it looks like no one still wants to live in Klickitat or Goldendale and that's the direction one of my brother's thinking about heading in. The Dalles though...never.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:The author also has a section on her website about her banned books, so I looked up a summary of her biggest offender, and it is a romance novel about a family of four. There are a set of parents and two twin children. One of the twins dies, so the family decides to live in the woods because the mom is very sad. The woods do not improve the mood of the mom so she commits suicide. Dad decides the best way to cheer up the remaining members of the family is a good old fashioned gently caress fest. Then, at the end, when everyone is grossed out the dad drops the bombshell revelation that the twins were adopted because they were the product of incest and rape, but he never told his kids that. So I guess he just tricked his daughter into thinking she was doing an incest. Just a big ol YIKES! The Aristocrats!
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IncredibleIgloo posted:The author also has a section on her website about her banned books, so I looked up a summary of her biggest offender, and it is a romance novel about a family of four. There are a set of parents and two twin children. One of the twins dies, so the family decides to live in the woods because the mom is very sad. The woods do not improve the mood of the mom so she commits suicide. Dad decides the best way to cheer up the remaining members of the family is a good old fashioned gently caress fest. Then, at the end, when everyone is grossed out the dad drops the bombshell revelation that the twins were adopted because they were the product of incest and rape, but he never told his kids that. So I guess he just tricked his daughter into thinking she was doing an incest. Just a big ol YIKES! Huh. That doesn't even sound like the incest dick-eating one I found a review of. How many of these did she do??
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Tulalip Tulips posted:The Dalles though...never.
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Most of them are fine, it's just that one dalle that you gotta watch out for.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:All I know about The Dalles is that it's a turnoff on the way from Portland to Corvallis. What's bad about it/them? Have you seen what they look like
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Arsenic Lupin posted:All I know about The Dalles is that it's a turnoff on the way from Portland to Corvallis. What's bad about it/them? It was the site of the only biological terrorism attack in the United States!
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Arsenic Lupin posted:All I know about The Dalles is that it's a turnoff on the way from Portland to Corvallis. What's bad about it/them? Biological terrorism is probably what it's best known for nationally, which is good because it was super methed out when I was a kid. I also associate it with some dumb family drama and a different uncle starting a drunk minor forest fire.
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Skwirl posted:I'm gonna guess she's never been to Oregon and has never seriously researched Oregon history if she's setting a black gay romance in Hood River and not addressing the fact it was a Sundown State. lol I was hoping someone was going to bring up the sundown state thing
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Arsenic Lupin posted:All I know about The Dalles is that it's a turnoff on the way from Portland to Corvallis. What's bad about it/them? The Dalles, which is where I live unfortunately, is the dividing line between reasonable Oregon and hillbilly hateful Oregon. While The Dalles has seen an influx of tech workers and high skilled labor over the last 15 years, which has slightly tempered the conservative attitude of the area, it is still pretty bleak. There is a lot of romanticization here about eschewing school and education to work a "real man's job", which just leads to a lot of unskilled unemployed people. The area grows a large amount of cherries so there are some people that work in agriculture but it has become mostly a few wealthy owners and mostly underpaid migrant labor. There was an aluminum mill in town that would let people work as many hours as they wanted, which was in operation from the 80s to 2000s or so, and that introduced a lot of meth to the town, so people could get wired up and just work a ton of OT. The aluminum mill was low barrier to entry, relatively high paying job. It was owned by a subsidiary that was purchased/bought out by Enron and folded with the energy scandal and with that took a ton of pensions away from old people with broke bodies that had slaved away at the aluminum plant. It is not a very big town, 18k or so people, but is the seat of a sparsely populated county so the services are minimal and spread thin. It doesn't have the small town resort charm of Hood River, that is for sure. There has been a data center presence in the town which has led to a fair bit of revitalization and tax revenue and growth, but a lot of angst from the town locals. They are sour because a lot of the positions require education and skill, which, as mentioned above, the populace does not value.
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Additionally, like in the Portland area you have a weird mix of people who work in the Dalles but maintain a legal residence on the Washington side of the Columbia for tax reasons and they get incredibly mad if you end up denying them an opportunity to use your address as their residence. In addition to the regular racism of the area, I've witnessed some serious anti-Native American racism that people forget exists because there are a lot of old angry white people who are mad they can't fish the Columbia and tributary rivers until they have no more fish due to the Boldt decision. One of my brothers can't go back to The Dalles because of that and my mom ended up getting in to a fist fight with a lady who called her a race traitor in The Dalles. Still going to go by there in two weeks to drop my grandparent's ashes because it'll probably be easier to find an un-watched spot to it there than in Klickitat or on the White Salmon.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:The author also has a section on her website about her banned books, so I looked up a summary of her biggest offender, and it is a romance novel about a family of four. There are a set of parents and two twin children. One of the twins dies, so the family decides to live in the woods because the mom is very sad. The woods do not improve the mood of the mom so she commits suicide. Dad decides the best way to cheer up the remaining members of the family is a good old fashioned gently caress fest. Then, at the end, when everyone is grossed out the dad drops the bombshell revelation that the twins were adopted because they were the product of incest and rape, but he never told his kids that. So I guess he just tricked his daughter into thinking she was doing an incest. Just a big ol YIKES! That book sure sounds like something else. What do you call it? the aristocrats!  e: god drat it i should have read the whole thread 
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Show of hands, please -- how many of us sheltered Easterners had only ever heard of The Dalles from playing Oregon Trail?  
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Powered Descent posted:Show of hands, please -- how many of us sheltered Easterners had only ever heard of The Dalles from playing Oregon Trail? Half the businesses here are named "Oregon Trail _________", the other half are named something to do with the river. Big river, windy river, river city, windseeker, etc....
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It's also one of the few cities in the US that officially has the word "The" as part of its name.
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Tulalip Tulips posted:Additionally, like in the Portland area you have a weird mix of people who work in the Dalles but maintain a legal residence on the Washington side of the Columbia for tax reasons and they get incredibly mad if you end up denying them an opportunity to use your address as their residence. In addition to the regular racism of the area, I've witnessed some serious anti-Native American racism that people forget exists because there are a lot of old angry white people who are mad they can't fish the Columbia and tributary rivers until they have no more fish due to the Boldt decision. One of my brothers can't go back to The Dalles because of that and my mom ended up getting in to a fist fight with a lady who called her a race traitor in The Dalles.
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Haschel Cedricson posted:It was the site of the only biological terrorism attack in the United States! 
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Haschel Cedricson posted:It was the site of the only biological terrorism attack in the United States! That's every White Castle.
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Skwirl posted:I'm gonna guess she's never been to Oregon and has never seriously researched Oregon history if she's setting a black gay romance in Hood River and not addressing the fact it was a Sundown State. Oregon reporting here and I'm going to make a quick guesstimate that the Black population in Hood River is negligible at best Considering that when I was growing up the Black population in Portland was basically unofficially confined to the Killingsworth area... Everyone thinks it's a progressive state but it's still racist as hell once you scratch the surface E: yup 0.5% in the 2010 census
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I wonder how much of Portland’s progressive reputation is the invention of Californians who moved there. Racism towards natives blows my mind not just because there are so relatively few of them but because it usually seems to express itself over the fact that they get to sometimes hunt out of season. Maybe it’s a western thing that as a ~~~**Coastal Elite**~~~ I just don’t understand
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Haschel Cedricson posted:It's also one of the few cities in the US that officially has the word "The" as part of its name. Only other one I can think of is The Woodlands in Texas.
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Athens, Georgia.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Racism towards natives blows my mind not just because there are so relatively few of them but because it usually seems to express itself over the fact that they get to sometimes hunt out of season. Maybe it’s a western thing that as a ~~~**Coastal Elite**~~~ I just don’t understand I actually grew up in the southern US near a reservation. I never really understood why some people had a strong dislike of them either but here are some things I've observed:
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Scratch Monkey posted:I wonder how much of Portland’s progressive reputation is the invention of Californians who moved there. Very little The California invasion didn't happen until relatively recently. The Republicans haven't held the governorship since the 80s, and the Dems broke the R stranglehold on the state legislature ~late 90s. It was then that they finally were able to move past the poo poo that had plagued the state for most of the decade. When Intel started building massive fabrication plants in Hillsboro, Silicon Valley took notice. Then they realized how cheap land was and how cheap the state was, and started building all sorts of poo poo, which is why parts of the Willamette Valley are now known as the Silicon Forest. Google and Amazon started building, and Facebook realized that the east side of the state was cheap as dirt and began building that up. Then Californians started moving in and raising prices and it's all gone to hell since Doesn't help that historically Oregon political leadership is pretty scoleric and weak and can't deal with the pressing problems because they're all too busy infighting with purity tests and poo poo I have opinions ok
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Re: Tribe That’s because, turns out, racism is dumb and bad and gets deeply rooted in the mind and is literally a brain worm.
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Seth Pecksniff posted:Very little Also, Portland and Eugene have been hubs for leftist and environmentalist activism since at least the early 90's. Southern Oregon is where all of the forest defense and tree sits were happening and Oregon was a major focus of federal Green Scare attention.
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Dr. Stab posted:Athens, Georgia. 
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Dr. Stab posted:Athens, Georgia. Lol Also who can forget The Villages.
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Seth Pecksniff posted:Very little Apple is also present in the Bend/Redmond/Prineville area as well. Oregon has seen a large data center and tech boom as you have noted. A big draw is the dry climate of central/eastern Oregon for data centers, along with the hydro-electric power. Oregon also has a lot of enterprise tax zones to spur growth in a lot of the areas and the only folks to take advantage of them have thus far been data centers. The enterprise tax zones have caused some consternation for some citizens of the town that have the zones, but their towns authorized the zones to draw in big businesses, so it is kind of a mixed bag. Washington used to be the preferred area for data centers, up until about 15 years ago or so, in which Washington thought they could squeeze more tax out of the data centers by enacting some specific taxes, but all that caused was a huge influx of data centers to Oregon instead and very few, if any, built in Washington.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/MForstater/status/1560167387860795397 Elements of the British government are considering allowing no interest loans people can use to buy food
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Scratch Monkey posted:I wonder how much of Portland’s progressive reputation is the invention of Californians who moved there. American conservativism is driven by racial animus. White people love free healthcare, public transit, etc until they have to share it with "undesirables". Portland could be progressive precisely because it was so white.
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Seth Pecksniff posted:Everyone thinks it's a progressive state but it's still racist as hell once you scratch the surface Man, I was doing genealogy for my family and learned that I was related to some of the founders of Oregon as a state: Luther Elkins proposed a clause be inserted into the constitution that would “prohibit free negroes, or mulattoes coming into or settling in the state.” https://sos.oregon.gov/archives/exhibits/constitution/Pages/during-about-elkins.aspx He's my third great-grandfather.
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Dallas, Oregon used to be a hotspot of KKK activity and while evidence shows that the Dallas High School mascot being the Dragons is a coincidence, that's one hell of an unfortunate coincidence. EDIT: Dallas and The Dalles are two different cities; the novels that started this whole line of discussion do not take place in a former KKK hotspot as far as I know. EDIT 2: All the Dallas High School artwork shows a Chinese-style dragon, but the guy in the physical mascot suit is dressed up as a European dragon and I have always felt that was bullshit. Haschel Cedricson has a new favorite as of 20:26 on Aug 18, 2022 |
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Nucleic Acids posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/MForstater/status/1560167387860795397 Even better. Supermarkets are going to issue them. Iceland is a chain of frozen-food stores and they're going to be issuing interest-free loans so that people can buy food to eat.
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Haschel Cedricson posted:Dallas, Oregon used to be a hotspot of KKK activity and while evidence shows that the Dallas High School mascot being the Dragons is a coincidence, that's one hell of an unfortunate coincidence. Yeah, they actually take place in Hood River, 20 miles west of The Dalles, which was a sleepy timber town until it became the windsurfing capital of the west coast. The Dalles High School mascot has changed over the years and the residents here are super loving salty about it changing. High school was the high point in the lives of many people here. There used to be two high schools, one mascot was the Indians and one was the Eagles. Then the school districts combined and we condensed to one school and the mascot was changed to the Indian-Eagles, which I am not sure is a thing. Then the school changed mascots to the Riverhawks after Oregon decided to preclude the use of native imagery in school mascots. People here are still super upset about it.
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HopperUK posted:Even better. Supermarkets are going to issue them. Iceland is a chain of frozen-food stores and they're going to be issuing interest-free loans so that people can buy food to eat. Wimpy was ahead of his time
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