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Oh look lots of new posts on the Jan 6 thread maybe something big happened regarding the investigation. Oh it's all just talk about the Russian Civil War....
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Charliegrs posted:Oh look lots of new posts on the Jan 6 thread maybe something big happened regarding the investigation. New accusations dropped that Trump is really Trotsky in a blond wig.
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Aug 17, 2022 22:05
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Donald Trump is harboring Ezra Miller.
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Aug 17, 2022 22:08
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cant cook creole bream posted:Donald Trump is harboring Ezra Miller. Is that the real Ezra Miller or Professor Zoom impersonating him?
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Aug 17, 2022 22:30
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cant cook creole bream posted:Donald Trump is harboring Ezra Miller. Trump's hatred of gender noncomforming people is overridden by his admiration for all the women that Ezra Miller has beaten the poo poo out of and all the teenagers that they have sexually manipulated.
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Aug 17, 2022 22:30
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Ugh, history. Why yes trump has tweeted classified photographs without any regard for standard declassification procedures, didn't ya know?
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Aug 17, 2022 22:33
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Kemp says he's too busy with reelection stuff to be deposed by a lowly grand jury. https://www.ajc.com/politics/breaking-kemp-blasts-fulton-da-for-playing-politics-as-he-fights-subpoena/YSGK66OTLRHGZMOGYEA26PXJSE/ Geez maybe it you hadn't jerked them off for months then skipped out on even your simple, scheduled video statement. Now he wants to wait until 2023. Contempt! Come on judge, fire up a contempt trial!
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Aug 17, 2022 22:38
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:Ugh, history. He has a standing order declassifying anything he tweets.
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Aug 17, 2022 22:38
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mobby_6kl posted:He has a standing order declassifying anything he tweets. So do I and it's just as effective!
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Aug 17, 2022 23:09
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mobby_6kl posted:He has a standing order declassifying anything he tweets. Very funnily he does not because he also hosed up at one point and they had to hurriedly backtrack. quote:Trump tweeted earlier this month: "I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!" https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1558275571666362369 Piell fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Aug 17, 2022 |
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Aug 17, 2022 23:14
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FBI picking on conservatives again Man charged with election interference tied to Capitol riot https://news.yahoo.com/man-charged-election-interference-tied-174655424.html A Virginia man who is facing trial on charges that he drove a Hummer packed with guns to Philadelphia to interfere with the 2020 presidential election has been arrested in a separate case that alleges his involvement in the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol. LaMotta, 63, is among more than 850 people charged with federal crimes for their alleged conduct inside the Capitol building. But he stands out for the case already pending against him and another man in Philadelphia. In November 2020, LaMotta and Joshua Macias drove to a Philadelphia convention center where votes were being counted for the presidential election, prosecutors have alleged. The men arrived in a Hummer adorned with a QAnon sticker and loaded with an AR-15-style rifle, more than 100 rounds of ammunition and other weapons. Prosecutors say Macias and LaMotta had planned a mass shooting as the election hung in the balance but were thwarted by an FBI tip about their travels. A trial for the men is scheduled for October. Charges include interfering with an election. At a preliminary hearing last year, lawyers for both men argued there was no evidence they interfered or tried to interfere with election-related activities. The lawyers said that it appeared the men were being punished for their beliefs, including support for false theories that the presidential election was fraudulent. The criminal complaint against LaMotta for his alleged actions on Jan. 6 states he was identified through images captured on Capitol surveillance cameras as well as police body cameras. LaMotta also was identified by an FBI agent who had interviewed him after his arrest in Philadelphia.
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Aug 18, 2022 01:58
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With the news that DoJ subpoenaed NARA months ago for all White House documents requested by the J06 committee and the recent search warrant and that Giuliani is a target of the Georgia investigation I’m past ‘will Trump be indicted’ and now I’m now at ‘when Trump is indicted’. BUT that has made me realize that if DoJ is serious, and the Biden administration is serious then they have more responsibility than just announcing an indictment. They have a responsibility to try and execute such that the country doesn’t decay into (more) stochastic violence and localized insurrections.
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Aug 18, 2022 04:29
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Murgos posted:With the news that DoJ subpoenaed NARA months ago for all White House documents requested by the J06 committee and the recent search warrant and that Giuliani is a target of the Georgia investigation I’m past ‘will Trump be indicted’ and now I’m now at ‘when Trump is indicted’. Biden is handling things quietly and not yelling about it every day at campaign rallies. It's far more the responsibility of Trump to keep his supporters peaceful and non violent, since he's the one gaslighting them
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Aug 18, 2022 04:50
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They should pull trump aside quietly and say if you manage to keep your morons peaceful we will play ball otherwise we are throwing the entire library at you.
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Aug 18, 2022 05:09
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cr0y posted:They should pull trump aside quietly and say if you manage to keep your morons peaceful we will play ball otherwise we are throwing the entire library at you. If Trump listened to reason over ego we wouldn't be here.
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Aug 18, 2022 05:09
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Biden is handling things quietly and not yelling about it every day at campaign rallies. It's far more the responsibility of Trump to keep his supporters peaceful and non violent, since he's the one gaslighting them I dont see it. Trump isn’t the kind to realize he has a losing hand and he’s just going to keep doubling down.
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Aug 18, 2022 05:24
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Murgos posted:I dont see it. Trump isn’t the kind to realize he has a losing hand and he’s just going to keep doubling down. That's precisely the point. What do you think any person not named Donald Trump, especially Joe Biden, can do to keep this from getting much worse?
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Aug 18, 2022 05:34
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Did we already know there's a Jan 6 grand jury? I feel like that's new
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Aug 18, 2022 06:02
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Uglycat posted:Did we already know there's a Jan 6 grand jury? I feel like that's new Uh, there's been Jan 6 grand juries from the very beginning. People have been getting arrested and criminally charged for January 6, 2021 since January 6, 2021. We don't know how many GJs there are now convened to investigate J6, or how long this particular one has been active. We knew they were subpoenaing Trump's legal counsel more than two weeks ago, and they were subpoenaing organizers of the J6 rallies two months ago, and they launched this pivot from purely footsoldiers and brawlers/property damagers to actual fundraisers and organizers of the events nearly five months ago.
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Aug 18, 2022 06:23
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Murgos posted:With the news that DoJ subpoenaed NARA months ago for all White House documents requested by the J06 committee and the recent search warrant and that Giuliani is a target of the Georgia investigation I’m past ‘will Trump be indicted’ and now I’m now at ‘when Trump is indicted’. Trump's numbers are through the roof over this. If he runs, he'll probably still lose, but he's going to go down hard. But in the end it won't matter because Trump isn't the problem his voters are. And DeSantis is waiting in the wings right behind Trump; with a better version of MAGA, that's more refined and purified. All MAGA talks about is Trump passing the torch to DeSantis, if not in 2024 then 2028. Plus, the establishment GOP doesn't really have an axe to grind with DeSantis, like they have with Trump. The old establishment GOP donors are already cozying up to DeSantis, with the idiot MAGA base none the wiser, and DeSantis, clearly not a true believer, will only be too happy to play ball with the NeoCons and Business wing GOP. Right now Trump is the only thing standing in the way of all that. We're not the only ones rooting for Garland. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Aug 18, 2022 |
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Uglycat posted:Did we already know there's a Jan 6 grand jury? I feel like that's new
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H.R. Hufflepuff posted:That's precisely the point. What do you think any person not named Donald Trump, especially Joe Biden, can do to keep this from getting much worse? An exclusive solitary confinement cell in Guantanamo Bay would do that job pretty well.
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Aug 18, 2022 12:43
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Murgos posted:With the news that DoJ subpoenaed NARA months ago for all White House documents requested by the J06 committee and the recent search warrant and that Giuliani is a target of the Georgia investigation I’m past ‘will Trump be indicted’ and now I’m now at ‘when Trump is indicted’. I don't think it's going to be possible to avoid that.
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Aug 18, 2022 12:55
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I don't think it's going to be possible to avoid that. This is one reason I am convinced that the various states and federal agencies are at least broadly coordinating the roll-out of info. I know that's not what the DOJ typically does (or should do), but then again this is not a typical case. For example, I don't believe either NY or GA will indict him before the DOJ does. And I believe that once the DOJ does, the other entities will follow quickly along.
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Aug 18, 2022 16:40
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mdemone posted:This is one reason I am convinced that the various states and federal agencies are at least broadly coordinating the roll-out of info. I know that's not what the DOJ typically does (or should do), but then again this is not a typical case. I'm sure any one indicting will trigger an avalanche of others, but I don't know that they're all waiting for the DOJ specifically to act first.
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https://twitter.com/politicususa/status/1560357059022954497
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Aug 18, 2022 21:48
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This is the immediate, mediating entity, politicususa, quoting a politico article and then just adding an inaccurate sentence at the top of the quote, which is used to distribute the article on twitter. Based on a quick scan I'd suggest just not using politicususa as a source, since this sort of content mill stuff seems to be all they do.
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Aug 18, 2022 22:00
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Fuschia tude posted:I'm sure any one indicting will trigger an avalanche of others, but I don't know that they're all waiting for the DOJ specifically to act first. My guess is that the DOJ just has so much poo poo to wade through prior to any indictment that they can't just jump in. Trump's strategy of 'do so many crimes they can't keep up' is effective in slowing down investigations, but it does put more targets on him. At this point, he might as well just do more wild poo poo because it would either force the DOJ to assign mountains more staff to investigate him, or force them to switch gears. I'm sure the government would do the former, but it would effectively slow things down on their end, and doesn't change his legal situation much. He's already legally hosed, so he might as well run the gamble on the clock towards the next presidential election or dying of old age.
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Aug 18, 2022 22:00
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Discendo Vox posted:This is the immediate, mediating entity, politicususa, quoting a politico article and then just adding an inaccurate sentence at the top of the quote, which is used to distribute the article on twitter. Based on a quick scan I'd suggest just not using politicususa as a source, since this sort of content mill stuff seems to be all they do. thanks truly did not know what the hell they were when i saw it and meant to add to it that the source was odd but got distracted
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Aug 18, 2022 22:02
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Red posted:My guess is that the DOJ just has so much poo poo to wade through prior to any indictment that they can't just jump in. Trump's strategy of 'do so many crimes they can't keep up' is effective in slowing down investigations, but it does put more targets on him. perhaps there is some sort of crime containment chamber that we could put him in to limit his ability to do new crimes while we investigate and prosecute the old crimes?
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Herstory Begins Now posted:perhaps there is some sort of crime containment chamber that we could put him in to limit his ability to do new crimes while we investigate and prosecute the old crimes? Ah, but if we put him in the crime containment chamber then his followers will commit many more crimes in his name to make up for the crimes he is no longer able to commit because the crime containment chamber is only for people who are bad and/or not white.
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What if we put him in a crime containment chamber but tell him it's a special work office for bigly important politics people?
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H.R. Hufflepuff posted:That's precisely the point. What do you think any person not named Donald Trump, especially Joe Biden, can do to keep this from getting much worse? I think that the US Government Executive Branch has vast planning, execution and monitoring capabilities and they should be using them to investigate how to introduce the concept of Trump being indicted while minimizing hysteria, generate a strategy based on that analysis, execute that plan and monitor it to ensure it’s performing. Just like big boy entities do with all their major endeavors where they want a specific public reaction. Hire Disney or whatever.
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Murgos posted:I think that the US Government Executive Branch has vast planning, execution and monitoring capabilities and they should be using them to investigate how to introduce the concept of Trump being indicted while minimizing hysteria, generate a strategy based on that analysis, execute that plan and monitor it to ensure it’s performing. Just like big boy entities do with all their major endeavors where they want a specific public reaction. Ah yes, Disney. Their involvement would definitely calm down the kind of insane Nazis who would be committing these acts of terror.
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Murgos posted:I think that the US Government Executive Branch has vast planning, execution and monitoring capabilities and they should be using them to investigate how to introduce the concept of Trump being indicted while minimizing hysteria, generate a strategy based on that analysis, execute that plan and monitor it to ensure it’s performing. Just like big boy entities do with all their major endeavors where they want a specific public reaction. Lol ok. Just throw a bunch of money at this intractable problem. Like, manufacturing consent is obviously a thing, but the USA is rapidly sliding towards some variety of civil war and you're saying that can be averted with what? A well-made PSA? A national MKUltra campaign?
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I don't know how any of this ever gets solved without addressing the completely disparate media ecosystems. The fact that Conservative social media spaces have their own separate group of news article sources and they all read like they're straight out of Man in the High Castle is seriously one of the most screwed up and damaging things about our current political situation. It's just gotten completely insane how walled off reality has become for people.
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Aug 19, 2022 09:13
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cr0y posted:They should pull trump aside quietly and say if you manage to keep your morons peaceful we will play ball otherwise we are throwing the entire library at you. 1. he would never be able to comply, even if willing. he would spontaneously reverse course at the slightest irrational internal urging. he could not be kept on course for anything no matter the benefit 2. i don't want trump to be able to leverage violent followers as a protectionary blanket that makes justice timid to apply the rules to him
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Kavros posted:1. he would never be able to comply, even if willing. he would spontaneously reverse course at the slightest irrational internal urging. he could not be kept on course for anything no matter the benefit 
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I've been on these forums for nearly 20 years and I still don't know what this emoji means.
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cr0y posted:I've been on these forums for nearly 20 years and I still don't know what this emoji means. Hmm, yes.
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