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Inzombiac posted:Also Australians get +3 against venom and poisons.  can confirm
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everyone calmly speaking snake facts while im here freaking out that snakes can swim
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Goa Tse-tung posted:everyone calmly speaking snake facts while im here freaking out that snakes can swim The snake body plan is actually ideal for swimming, their sinuous motion propels them easily in most environments.
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Goa Tse-tung posted:everyone calmly speaking snake facts while im here freaking out that snakes can swim most terrestrial snakes even are good swimmers - combination of having one long lung to control buoyancy and having a good shape to, well, snake through the water i used to get eastern brown snakes coming down to swim in the pond out the back of my house when it was hot or when they were looking for frogs for dinner
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Stoner Sloth posted:Sea snakes are pretty curious, I've often had them come up to check me out while diving. All in all pretty chill customers if you don't bother them! Username/avatar/post combo very 
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Goa Tse-tung posted:everyone calmly speaking snake facts while im here freaking out that snakes can swim Wait till you hear about eels
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Goa Tse-tung posted:everyone calmly speaking snake facts while im here freaking out that snakes can swim I looked up the sea snakes Wikipedia page after seeing that video, and apparently sea snakes can't really function on land at all, they get really upset and angry if the get beached. But as long as they are in the sea, the vast majority of them are really chill. Even the really really venomous ones hardly ever bite people because its a waste of good venom. I think, if I remember correctly, there have been, like 2 confirmed sea snake bites, one resulting in a death, in the last 80 years, and Australian fishermen regularly interact with them when they find them in nets, so it's not like they never meet people. I had heard years ago that sea snakes are both super venomous and also very mellow, so its nice to have that confirmed The wiggly-looking sea creatures you really want to dislike are lampreys because their mouths are super-nasty.
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I grew up ultra terrified of water moccasins. I could have been usefully afraid of so many other things.
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Rappaport posted:Username/avatar/post combo very haha thanks, the av someone nice in BYOB made for me when i first joined sa - the name comes from a series of bizarre and counterproductive anti-marijuana ad the Australian government came up with that are worth watching for a laugh Pookah posted:I looked up the sea snakes Wikipedia page after seeing that video, and apparently sea snakes can't really function on land at all, they get really upset and angry if the get beached. sea snakes are fully marine animals but sea kraits do come onto land some of time - i was lucky enough to spend a couple of weeks in New Caldeonia and there was a little island with a lighthouse that we visited which was was literally crawling with them. you had to be careful where you put your feet but they were quite chill too. sea snakes are ovoviviparous and give birth to live young from fertilized eggs that the female carries so they never need to go ashore, sea kraits are oviparous so they lay eggs and come ashore to do it. perhaps ironically sea snakes are in the Hydrophiinae subfamily which includes many Australasian terrestrial snakes, while sea kraits are Laticaudinae which are all semiaquatic. also despite the name they are not all that closely related to land kraits of the genus Bungarus although they are both highly venomous members of the Elapid family Stoner Sloth has a new favorite as of 22:48 on Aug 18, 2022 |
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I've dived with sea snakes a lot; they are curious and chill as gently caress and really cool to have as a 'dive buddy'. Rating: A+ snek!
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Stoner Sloth posted:haha thanks, the av someone nice in BYOB made for me when i first joined sa - the name comes from a series of bizarre and counterproductive anti-marijuana ad the Australian government came up with that are worth watching for a laugh Thank you, this is genuinely extremely interesting. I have heard about kraits, but only in a very vague, general sense; basically that they are aggressive and venomous snakes. I had never heard that there were distinct aquatic and land kraits. So cool that the aquatic ones still need to come ashore to lay their eggs, so can we guess they have been aquatic for less time than the completely adapted species? Or is that a fallacy?
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Pookah posted:Thank you, this is genuinely extremely interesting. I have heard about kraits, but only in a very vague, general sense; basically that they are aggressive and venomous snakes. I had never heard that there were distinct aquatic and land kraits. So cool that the aquatic ones still need to come ashore to lay their eggs, so can we guess they have been aquatic for less time than the completely adapted species? Or is that a fallacy? While it's hard to say for sure which took to aquatic environments first, the genetic evidence is that sea kraits perhaps counterintuitively diverged from land snakes earlier on than sea snakes did. One possible interpretation of this stems from the fact that three species of sea kraits are actually fresh water snakes - perhaps this necessitated keeping a partially terrestrial approach? tbh i'm hesitant to describe any snake as aggressive but land kraits are fast moving and will mount an active defense. They also have very toxic venom which they need because their main prey is other venomous snakes. Sea kraits on the other hand are so docile that in New Caledonia children often play with them and they're referred to as tricot rayé which means 'stripey sweater'. Bites are rare even when handled, and even more rarely do they actually inject venom but again they're toxic enough that without antivenom they're pretty likely fatal.
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Stoner Sloth posted:While it's hard to say for sure which took to aquatic environments first, the genetic evidence is that sea kraits perhaps counterintuitively diverged from land snakes earlier on than sea snakes did. One possible interpretation of this stems from the fact that three species of sea kraits are actually fresh water snakes - perhaps this necessitated keeping a partially terrestrial approach? Oh, so the sea-swimming ones are possibly primarily freshwater snakes who spend at least a portion of their time on land? Or at least, recently evolved from freshwater, partially land-based species. I literally live in a country that is famously snake-free, but I really do like and respect snakes. They seem like such simple, straightforward, animals that just want to be left the heck alone and not messed with.
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Goa Tse-tung posted:everyone calmly speaking snake facts while im here freaking out that snakes can swim Just wait, there's more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16aGSx9gFO4 Its so nice to see snake fans. I spend an inordinate amount of time convincing Floridians not to hurt the ones they come acoss. Snakes just have the cutest faces!
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Dienes posted:Snakes just have the cutest faces! 
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Snakes and reptiles in general are super cute and I'm happy to see more cute videos and pictures of them alongside the usual cats and dogs and birds.
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did someone say snake video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M6nTDP_CqY *SLAM*
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Stoner Sloth posted:The idea that sea snakes are the most venomous snakes is a myth but some of them can definitely kill you and many species are much more toxic than say a pit viper or even a cobra - that said Australian brown snake species and their cousins the taipans both out do them in potency considerably. One thing of note is that antivenom is rare for them - Australia being one of the few places where a supply of it is produced - but also the venom of both true sea snakes and sea kraits are both similar enough that Australian tiger snake antivenom can be used in a pinch. Most venomous snake species in Australia are descended from sea snakes that swam there and moved back on land.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Most venomous snake species in Australia are descended from sea snakes that swam there and moved back on land. Mostly true. They didn't swim here though, they came here on ships. Search first fleet for more info.
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Winklebottom posted:did someone say snake video 
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Most venomous snake species in Australia are descended from sea snakes that swam there and moved back on land. Yeah, it's pretty fascinating because ALL modern sea snakes and sea kraits are descended from Australian terrestrial snakes. Clearly it's not that hard for them to evolve to shift between land and marine environments! Another interesting thing about sea snakes is that they have evolved decent colour vision that works well underwater, the method by which they did so appears to be similar to how primates evolved colour vision to pick out ripe fruit. Inceltown posted:Mostly true. They didn't swim here though, they came here on ships. Search first fleet for more info. too right 
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These Elden Ring bosses are so easy once you find the cheese strats
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Goa Tse-tung posted:everyone calmly speaking snake facts while im here freaking out that snakes can swim So I take it you haven't heard of gliding snakes? Edit: That duck game looks like it'd be very easy to keel over like Chrysippus watching it.
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It's time for hyper sheepdog Oreo to take a break. https://twitter.com/caenhillcc/status/1560652642296205312?s=20&t=rsCZwaI2bCP-TQdFMdv5rA
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Goa Tse-tung posted:everyone calmly speaking snake facts while im here freaking out that snakes can swim Rattlesnakes will sometimes share their dens with tortoises. https://i.imgur.com/Rnh15SQ.mp4 quote:Desert tortoises, like gopher tortoises, are ecosystem engineers. They burrow into the desert soil and their holes provide humidity and temperature refugia for a number of other species, including snakes. It's entirely possible that these two animals are roommates and the snake was just chilling on the tortoise's shell before it left. Imagine how you would react if your roommate, who was also your couch, suddenly walked out into the street where the paparazzi were waiting and you weren't even wearing pant yet. Blue Footed Booby has a new favorite as of 17:58 on Aug 19, 2022 |
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This is the sort of poo poo that used to be on espn in the daytime before it turned into talking heads and fantasy sports drafting
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Check out this tiny frog I found while I were out.
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Lookit that dinky little froggie
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I initially thought it was a large cricket but no, frog.
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okay one last thing and I swear i'll shut up about sea snakes, found this today: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-94728-x Scuba-divers on tropical coral-reefs often report unprovoked “attacks” by highly venomous Olive sea snakes (Aipysurus laevis). Snakes swim directly towards divers, sometimes wrapping coils around the diver’s limbs and biting. Based on a focal animal observation study of free-ranging Olive sea snakes in the southern Great Barrier Reef, we suggest that these “attacks” are misdirected courtship responses. Approaches to divers were most common during the breeding season (winter) and were by males rather than by female snakes. Males also made repeated approaches, spent more time with the diver, and exhibited behaviours (such as coiling around a limb) also seen during courtship. Agitated rapid approaches by males, easily interpreted as “attacks”, often occurred after a courting male lost contact with a female he was pursuing, after interactions between rival males, or when a diver tried to flee from a male. These patterns suggest that “attacks” by sea snakes on humans result from mistaken identity during sexual interactions. Rapid approaches by females occurred when they were being chased by males. Divers that flee from snakes may inadvertently mimic the responses of female snakes to courtship, encouraging males to give chase. To prevent escalation of encounters, divers should keep still and avoid retaliation.
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Stoner Sloth posted:okay one last thing and I swear i'll shut up about sea snakes, found this today: great post thanks <3
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    LIVESTREAM VOID KITTENS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJHCsFOcDjY
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ILL Machina posted:https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1560660256841089025?t=M6mQ03Qd785pH_MLM7tl5w&s=19 Sparky (tuxedo) and Zippy, July 2000  
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