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Jul 26, 2007




owns mightily

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NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

uh



do better, mods

Ack! Oh no!!

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

lollontee posted:

sure, but what was the reason why the Tiananmen narrative must be controlled, again? fear of foreign propaganda? the solution was to publically treat the subject as taboo, which has resulted in the majority of the chinese people being unaware that such an event ever happened, or that it had wide societal consequences, or the reasons for why the situation deteriorated to the point where socialist revolutionaries saw it necessary to shoot into crowds indiscriminately, using disciplined volley fire and reload routines.

if it would happen in imperialist countries the same way, then you need to explain why this sequence of events could not deviate from this iron set path of material causalities. because communists are supposed to avoid such acts, y'know?

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lx0fkKgLbw

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

how can anybody not support a country that has so firmly grasped the ultimate truth that everything is better with rocket launchers?

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Anyone older who was living in a big city remembers the protests. It was in Xian, Changsha, Chengdu, Guangzhou, Tianjin, Wuhan, Nanjing, Hangzhou, Hefei etc. Like it was a nation wide event by the time of 6/4. Macau and Hong Kong had huge 'sympathy' protests on the 5th.

Shanghai, after the square was cleared in BJ, promised not to use marshall law on protestors. There was a labor strike and I guess like 1/3 of workers just didn't show up to work 6/5 and 6/6. People barricaded the roads and sat on the train tracks. When a train accidentally ran over and killed 5 protestors, people showed up and burned the train and beat the driver. More train burnings were attempted on empty trains but they got stopped.

Similar stories in Guangzhou, Hangzhou, etc

The event is so important to the western narrative it's hard to trust anything you read now, you really gotta look for primary sources from 1989. But no one alive would forget this event, its just overshadowed by many other events like the GPCR before it and the insane economic growth of the 90s to today that happened after. It's just not felt as a turning point in Chinese history, maybe a moment things got out of control on both sides. I know older people who 'regret' they were too cowardly to go to the protests in their city, cause now it feels like it would have been a good story of their youth. A moment of rebellion before they conformed. Aging hippy poo poo.

Young people might not know about it much like young americans don't know about Kent state. But if you tell them what will they say? "oh really. okay I didn't know that". it's not really that important in 2022

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 20:55 on Aug 18, 2022

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
noooo!!! its the most important thing ever

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
Every red blooded American remembers where they were when James Floyd personally burned down Minneapolis PD. I took a community college course with someone who took a selfie in front of a torched cop car. It was the most important event of our lives. Unless you were inside that day I guess lol

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Heh the US is impervious to this, because we have so many of them and several of them much worse that you can't get mad about any of them. It's like the Mr burns virus door of tragedy

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Grapplejack posted:

Heh the US is impervious to this, because we have so many of them and several of them much worse that you can't get mad about any of them. It's like the Mr burns virus door of tragedy

an entire classroom of toddlers is brutally murdered every year in america but here is why one incident from 33 years ago haunts the soul of every mainland chinese person

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007



A retard gun? Perfect for the Glenn thread

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

and what did China learn?

We don't want movements that can be coopted into anti-government riots, we don't want a color revolution. We don't want images of the state using martial force against civilians. So we nip it in the bud. Censor topics that get people heated online, even (especially) celebrity gossip - this passion can spill over. Break up big organizations, don't allow large public gatherings when they might become a locus of negativity toward the state. The internet is one big democracy wall so we will take down the more scandalous posts. And it worked, even if it is heavy handed, china didn't become like the Balkan states.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
imagine if america had memory hole'd 9/11 instead

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Raskolnikov38 posted:

imagine if america had memory hole'd 9/11 instead

it was a national tragedy

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

tristeham posted:

it was a national tragedy

yeah but then we wouldn't have done any of the poo poo we did afterwards

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Raskolnikov38 posted:

imagine if america had memory hole'd 9/11 instead

Everyone remembers the national tragedy of Bush getting a shoe thrown at his head. The government had a choice that day on how to handle direct attacks. We launched WW4 over it as was correct.

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Raskolnikov38 posted:

yeah but then we wouldn't have done any of the poo poo we did afterwards

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011


is this doing a bit? expelling ammunition still has the rocket, which is very hot, landing somewhere. usually somewhere a ways different from where the expelled material lands (I.e. somewhere possibly not on fire) which seems like a bad idea for wilderness firefighting. but hey I’m not a firefighter

thechosenone
Mar 21, 2009
Well I think the rocket, even as hot as it is, isnt as good as spreading a fire as the very large fire it is likely used on, and presumably it sprays so much fire retardant material it more than makes up for the scorch marks where it lands.

Honestly it seems like an interesting idea.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Best Friends posted:

is this doing a bit? expelling ammunition still has the rocket, which is very hot, landing somewhere. usually somewhere a ways different from where the expelled material lands (I.e. somewhere possibly not on fire) which seems like a bad idea for wilderness firefighting. but hey I’m not a firefighter

the rocket is lined with ice cubes actually so just mind your business

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Best Friends posted:

is this doing a bit? expelling ammunition still has the rocket, which is very hot, landing somewhere. usually somewhere a ways different from where the expelled material lands (I.e. somewhere possibly not on fire) which seems like a bad idea for wilderness firefighting. but hey I’m not a firefighter

well considering it's for firing into large areas that are on fire I think the bigger fire risk in the area is the rapidly spreading wildfire and not the rocket debris which I do agree is quite hot.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
like, if I was at a house fire and saw that thing rolling up I'd for sure think that's a bad idea, but it does say 'forest fires'

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Firing a MLRS salvo at the shack with smoke coming out of it.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

thechosenone posted:

Well I think the rocket, even as hot as it is, isnt as good as spreading a fire as the very large fire it is likely used on, and presumably it sprays so much fire retardant material it more than makes up for the scorch marks where it lands.

Honestly it seems like an interesting idea.

the rocket and the fire retardant are only going to land in the same place if the rocket expelled the retardant while pointing straight down. The artillery is fired in (basically) a parabolic arc. close to the target the munition expelled whatever it expels, and the munition keeps going along its arc until it hits the ground. whatever is expelled is generally much less capable of cutting through the air than the munition itself (in this case the rocket) so it will not follow that same arc when it gets in the air, and will generally go much closer to straight down, or follow the wind.

If it’s expelling right above the fire on a steep parabolic arc, the difference between where the munition and expelled material land might not be that far apart. But if the piddly little amount of retardant that can be fit in a rocket is mattering to the fire, I’m thinking it’s probably not a giant fire in the first place.

but, again, definitely not a fireman

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
having a barbecue with my friends and getting absolutely blown up by the fire fighting rocket salvo raining down on us

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

Best Friends posted:

is this doing a bit? expelling ammunition still has the rocket, which is very hot, landing somewhere. usually somewhere a ways different from where the expelled material lands (I.e. somewhere possibly not on fire) which seems like a bad idea for wilderness firefighting. but hey I’m not a firefighter

its not a bit, they admit its retardant

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

lobster shirt posted:

its not a bit, they admit its retardant

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

lobster shirt posted:

its not a bit, they admit its retardant

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I saw 64 protest with my own eyes, in Guangzhou, when passing through a trackless trolley bus station. I was in grade school.

You never forget national event like that.

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

lobster shirt posted:

its not a bit, they admit its retardant

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Jon Irenicus
Apr 23, 2008


YO ASSHOLE

getting ready for the Big Day along the Taiwan Straight and realizing you accidentally brought the firefighting missile system instead

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

I'm going to need FF to draw up a white paper on the usefulness of the Chinese Fire Service MLRS

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


lobster shirt posted:

its not a bit, they admit its retardant

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

KomradeX posted:

I'm going to need FF to draw up a white paper on the usefulness of the Chinese Fire Service MLRS

Sometimes there's a fire way over there and you're all the way over here so you just punch in the coords and boom, no more fire.

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

KirbyKhan posted:

Sometimes there's a fire way over there and you're all the way over here so you just punch in the coords and boom, no more fire.

sometimes it’s not my problem and I just turn up the Faye Wong Cranberries cover

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVkIv2g1hA4

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017


This arranged marriage poo poo has gone too far imo

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
That's a bad probe NHD I think people would like you more if you did not do unnecessary probes like that

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Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1560067137728806912

the us demands war

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