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Lucasar posted:It occurred to me that we may randomly be able to have Sebastien Vettel as a colour commentator at various points from here on out. Good, get rid of Nico!
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spaceblancmange posted:I hope Seb does something better with his life I can see him going the Schumacher route, minus the head trauma
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I hope he stays home to hang out with his kids like he seems to want to.
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alonso-i-need-to-destroy-whatever-strengths-other-people-have/10354553/quote:“Yeah, I mean, I'm that type of guy,” he smiles in an exclusive interview with Motorsport.com that took place before his Aston Martin move was announced.
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Pirate Radar posted:https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alonso-i-need-to-destroy-whatever-strengths-other-people-have/10354553/ I love him
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Pirate Radar posted:https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alonso-i-need-to-destroy-whatever-strengths-other-people-have/10354553/ Big "Crush your enemies, seen them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women" vibes
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Zedd posted:Even Honda knew their engine was utterly poo poo back then, AlphaTauri giving them all the things they wanted is what allowed them to make it good. Yeah they worked with them rather than against them.
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Custard Undies posted:I can see him going the Schumacher route, minus the head trauma I see Seb doing a lot of conservation work and helping the planet
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:wasn't their first attempt literally just a bunch of motorcycle engines bolted together No it was a lovely 5-Valve Head on what was essentially a DFV block. It worked in Japanese F3000 approximately one time in 1988 (it was more due to the combination of Aguri Suzuki/Footwork). Gustav Brunner bench tested it once and it blew up within 5 seconds. The engine made about 560HP, well down on even customer Cosworths that it was based on.
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spaceblancmange posted:The only people with a bigger chip on their shoulder than Indycar drivers are Indycar fans Takuma Sato doesn't. But then again, he was an Ex-F1 guy.
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But yeah it's a long-recurring problem. The product has been excellent mostly, but trashing F1 is commonplace and delusional. I read on an Indycar forum that the 1990 CART season had better drivers the the 1990 F1 season and I started vibrating. Also they get very angry when you point out Ex-F1 guys do very well there, but not the reverse.
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Charles Leclerc posted:
This is not the burn you think it is.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:not gonna be satisfied until it's 1989 again and like a third of the field are teams run out of garden sheds that fail to qualify for a single race all year That ruled. Also ALL of the '89 cars are beautiful.
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Yamaha being in F1 was largely down to them wanting to sell a 5 valve design to Cosworth and Cosworth telling them to gently caress off so they entered to show how much "better" their engine would be with the 5 valve design
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Yamaha did make the SHO engine for Ford which has the purest most beautiful intake manifold design of any engine ever and Ford pissed it away shoe horning it into the Taurus lmao
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Frond posted:That ruled. Also ALL of the '89 cars are beautiful. shout outs to the AGS that was all black with a big yellow ? on the airbox 
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Look at this thing, its a loving work of art
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italian quid posted:Yamaha being in F1 was largely down to them wanting to sell a 5 valve design to Cosworth and Cosworth telling them to gently caress off so they entered to show how much "better" their engine would be with the 5 valve design Cosworth also told them the design was bad and wouldn't work.. Then they designed a V12 which was somewhat better.
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Alaois posted:shout outs to the AGS that was all black with a big yellow ? on the airbox Fun fact - this team was run out of a gas station in rural France.
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italian quid posted:Yamaha did make the SHO engine for Ford which has the purest most beautiful intake manifold design of any engine ever and Ford pissed it away shoe horning it into the Taurus lmao They also did design work for Toyota. They are actually a talented bunch but they need a partner to bring out their best.
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that 5-valve Yamaha engine still somehow wasn't as bad as the Subaru-Motori Moderni flat 12 or the Life W12 engine
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Alaois posted:that 5-valve Yamaha engine still somehow wasn't as bad as the Subaru-Motori Moderni flat 12 or the Life W12 engine Those were designed by the old alfa engine guy that according to Niki Lauda used to keep a dozen stray dogs in the shop where he built the engines.
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It was actually more powerful than the Porsche 3512 V12, which, in my opinion, is the absolute worst engine program of the modern post-1981 era. Porsche's estimate that it made 670-680HP wasn't remotely true - in reality it made 510-520HP on a dyno.
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italian quid posted:Those were designed by the old alfa engine guy that according to Niki Lauda used to keep a dozen stray dogs in the shop where he built the engines. Yeah the Flat-12 was essentially Carlo Chiti's update of the late-70s Alfa Flat-12s. He also made the only real "customer" Turbo V6. He liked fine art and not cashing paycheques either.
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Frond posted:It was actually more powerful than the Porsche 3512 V12, which, in my opinion, is the absolute worst engine program of the modern post-1981 era. the 3512 not being able to fit in the car it was made for in the very first season of Porsche and Footwork's partnership is the funniest poo poo can't wait to see them back in F1
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The oddest thing about that was the FA12 couldn't accept the engine initially, but the A11C, a then 3 year old design (Ross Brawn's first IIRC) was able to be modified enough to fit it.
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Alaois posted:anyway, the main point is the results tables should look like this again 
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Probably would've been a championship year if they had literally anybody other than Patrese and Boutsen lmfao
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italian quid posted:Look at this thing, its a loving work of art 
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italian quid posted:Probably would've been a championship year if they had literally anybody other than Patrese and Boutsen lmfao Nah the Renault wasn't quite there yet. Imagine if Honda didn't shock drop them before 1988 started.
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italian quid posted:Probably would've been a championship year if they had literally anybody other than Patrese and Boutsen lmfao Patrese was a great #2. Boutsen was a solid one. But with 2 #2's you won't be #1. Boutsen is a textbook example of a "slow fast" driver.
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italian quid posted:Look at this thing, its a loving work of art 24 VALVE DONG
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Abisteen posted:24 VALVE DONG I don't think you can read
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Frond posted:This is not the burn you think it is. Did you read the rest of the post you selectively quoted, dipshit? The burn was against people trying to overanalyse the beautiful simplicity of Italian food but thanks for your two Lira I guess??
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