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Looks like the affidavit for the Mar-a-lago raid could be unsealed. A Florida Judge (the same one that unsealed the warrant) gave the Feds a week to submit their redacted version. This was unexpected and looks like it surprised the DOJ. (paywalled, full article below). https://twitter.com/nytpolitics/status/1560356384625102853 NYT posted:Judge May Release Affidavit in Trump Search, but Only After Redaction
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 03:50 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 08:22 |
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Like, I don't blame the judge for throwing the DOJ under the bus - threats to kill him and members of the synagouge he goes to would do that - but I would love to see the entire thing redacted in a 'gently caress you' play.
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 03:58 |
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Twincityhacker posted:Like, I don't blame the judge for throwing the DOJ under the bus - threats to kill him and members of the synagouge he goes to would do that - but I would love to see the entire thing redacted in a 'gently caress you' play. He is not throwing the DOJ under the bus in my opinion. I think Trump doesn't want it released, otherwise he would have joined the litigation. Or as popehat puts it: https://mobile.twitter.com/Popehat/status/1560295815779717122 plogo fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Aug 19, 2022 |
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GoutPatrol posted:If Yang could crowdsource his party platform through AI chatbots he would. the ai chat bots would accuse him of being a lovely chat bot
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 04:10 |
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Gumball Gumption posted:True though you'd think we could all be adult enough and recognize that the forward party has put out open calls to have people help form a platform and wants to create theirs from the bottom up which is the explicit reason they don't have a full platform yet. But it's easier to get dunks in on enemies. To defend yang first he has to stand for something. You can't really defend a negative space, even if you want to
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 04:12 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:You can't really defend a negative space, even if you want to Counterpoint: If you join the Forward party, you can be like these fellow carbon-based lifeforms. https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1560428613903810561 As you can see by their human smiles, it is a positive space, not a negative one.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:the ai chat bots would accuse him of being a lovely chat bot AI chat bots would accuse him of being non-sapient.
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 04:28 |
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Zachack posted:Roe has a lot of supporters and detractors and people will tend to disagree on what they think the best outcome for roe is. I work with people that consider roe to be ethically wrong, and they can make strong points in favor of abolishing roe, including unequal access arguments due to wealth disparity and even environmental arguments. Others may argue that roe represents a necessary freedom and being deprived is untenable. Personally I'm not a huge fan but it's fine as part of sushi and I assume makes for good bait? Lol. Prime A grade post.
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 05:21 |
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Zachack posted:Roe has a lot of supporters and detractors and people will tend to disagree on what they think the best outcome for roe is. I work with people that consider roe to be ethically wrong, and they can make strong points in favor of abolishing roe, including unequal access arguments due to wealth disparity and even environmental arguments. Others may argue that roe represents a necessary freedom and being deprived is untenable. Personally I'm not a huge fan but it's fine as part of sushi and I assume makes for good bait? I was slowly reaching for my probation button before I hit the last sentence. Bravo.
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 06:47 |
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Good bait, indeed
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 12:04 |
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The Forward Party has two members. One of them is Andrew Yang, a recent candidate for president, whose policy positions the Forward Party doesn't seem to support. I'm sure this will be a resounding success.
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 12:57 |
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Even by goon contrarian standards that someone actually tries to defend the Forward Party itt is lo fuckin l. Yang basically sounds like crypto bros spouting incoherent buzzword salad trying to get money from venture capital.
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 13:18 |
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Forward sounds like the name of a fascist Italian party. I bet someone can get Yang to describe his party “like an automobile powered by machine gun fire.”
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 13:38 |
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FizFashizzle posted:Forward sounds like the name of a fascist Italian party. It's literally just "en marche", every egotistical clown with no policies thinks they can pull a Macron.
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FizFashizzle posted:Forward sounds like the name of a fascist Italian party. I sounds like a university student council party name.
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Tnega posted:Counterpoint: If you join the Forward party, you can be like these fellow carbon-based lifeforms. https://twitter.com/Soulnapkin/status/1560666909736980480
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FizFashizzle posted:Forward sounds like the name of a fascist Italian party. It could be worse, the UK version of the "not left or right, but forward!!!" party idea had the hilariously unfortunate abbreviation of "CUK"
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 19:56 |
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FizFashizzle posted:Forward sounds like the name of a fascist Italian party. thats bullshit. also if a game doesnt allow me to use a machine gun to fly up, its a bad game.
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 20:15 |
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It feels a little unfair to keep picking on him at this point, but Yang is currently "extremely not caring" on Twitter about all the criticism he and the Forward party have gotten. Someone posted this picture of the only 4 people who showed up to the North Carolina Forward Party meeting: Yang has responded to that person with about 20 tweets that all basically say, "That so few people are showing up just proves how right we are! Also, if you make fun of us for not having any policy positions, then why don't you tell us what our policy positions should be and we'll adopt them! And what are policy positions anyway? Can anyone actually define what a political policy even is?" https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1560604929110196224 https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1560028415616491527 https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1560416552243154946
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The trouble is that people don't always agree. Then they should be made to
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Hallucinogenic Toreador posted:It's literally just "en marche", every egotistical clown with no policies thinks they can pull a Macron. Yeah trying to ape Macron in the US is inherently birdbrained since the Democrats already fill that niche in the political ecosystem. Yang being such an open doofus adds comic garnish to the whole affair but the truth is that there's no utility to that kind of party for any of the centers of power here. Macron is an actual bulwark against the French left. The US bulwark doesn't need its own bulwark In some alternate reality in which a left takeover of the Democrats succeeded somehow, Yang or someone like him could get somewhere, but that's not our reality, and in ours he is a teacup runt trying to fight a full-grown mastiff for the same teat
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 21:01 |
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Yeah trying to ape Macron in the US is inherently birdbrained since the Democrats already fill that niche in the political ecosystem. Yang being such an open doofus adds comic garnish to the whole affair but the truth is that there's no utility to that kind of party for any of the centers of power here. Macron is an actual bulwark against the French left. The US bulwark doesn't need its own bulwark Macron wasn't a bulwark against the French left. He originally only came into power because the Socialist Party had completely collapsed and had a 3% approval rate. If Macron didn't run, then the final two vote getters that advanced to the second round of voting would have been the center-right party and Le Pen. The center right party did not want Macron to win when they had an essentially guaranteed win in the final round. I guess you can argue that some people see him as that now, but nobody was playing the long game in 2017 to crush the French left who were already at 3% approval and the only other major left-wing party was getting 10% of the vote.
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 21:12 |
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Holy poo poo. I filed for Borrower Defense on my student loans related to my time at University of Phoenix…let’s see…the summer before Trump got elected. It didn’t processed until Trump was elected, and by then DeVos had directed the DoE to ignore all such claims and lawsuits got filed, and I just got this email today:quote:Your rights may be affected, please read carefully. And they’re not loving around on the schools. I kind of expected it would just be the ones that have already folded from lawsuits and such. I did a quick count and got 154 schools that are on the list where they’re just gonna drop the debt and give the money back! gently caress you, DeVos and friends! Riven fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Aug 19, 2022 |
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Riven posted:Holy poo poo. I filed for Borrower Defense on my student loans related to my time at University of Phoenix…let’s see…the summer before Trump got elected. It didn’t processed until Trump was elected, and by then DeVos had directed the DoE to ignore all such claims and lawsuits got filed, and I just got this email today: Lmao why did you go to university of phoenix?
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 21:55 |
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ellasmith posted:Lmao why did you go to university of phoenix? I was working full time and didn’t have parental support and nobody else at the time offered a full bachelor program that was at night. All the night programs were “get your Bachelor’s from your Associate’s” but I didn’t have that. My community college record was an A, 3 Fs and 7 withdrawals. I had taken CA’s equivalency exam so my high school diploma was from the state and I didn’t have a GPA. I have a couple mental health issues that by that time I had overcome but basically at the time it felt like my most realistic option for getting a degree in less than 8 years.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Macron wasn't a bulwark against the French left. He originally only came into power because the Socialist Party had completely collapsed and had a 3% approval rate. lol come on Leon, you have to be subtler than this with your bit if you're a mod
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:lol come on Leon, you have to be subtler than this with your bit if you're a mod You need to check up what the political situation was in France at the time. The socialist party incumbent didn't even run for re-election because he had a disapproval rate of 90%. The Republicans (the center-right party in France) were largely expected to cruise to victory, but they got knocked out of the first round by 1.3% and Macron ended up in the final round vs Le Pen. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/07/05/nearly-90-percent-of-the-french-now-disapprove-of-their-president/
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:You need to check up what the political situation was in France at the time. Neither of us need to check up on it actually, because we both know what happened and we both know you're deliberately drilling down on the corpse of the French Socialist Party as encompassing the entire French left in 2017, and we both know that the majority of the French left supported the 4th place candidate that you mysteriously avoided mentioning, and we both know that the difference between first and fourth was less than the number of votes siphoned by the no-hoper still running under the banner of the collapsed Socialist Party. We both know you are aware of this, dude For whatever reason though we've all gotta pretend "serial liar guy" is actually posting in good faith now because Koos thinks it'e funny or something so I guess I'll just suggest that you read some more about it and maybe you will learn what you already know (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Neither of us need to check up on it actually, because we both know what happened and we both know you're deliberately drilling down on the corpse of the French Socialist Party as encompassing the entire French left in 2017, and we both know that the majority of the French left supported the 4th place candidate that you mysteriously avoided mentioning, and we both know that the difference between first and fourth was less than the number of votes siphoned by the no-hoper still running under the banner of the collapsed Socialist Party. We both know you are aware of this, dude That would make the no-hoper under the Socialist party banner the bulwark and not Macron. Macron's base was largely moderate and center right voters. If he had not run, then the Republicans and National Front would be clear and away the top two. So, I think maybe one of us does need to check up on the context of the time.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:That would make the no-hoper under the Socialist party banner the bulwark and not Macron. Macron's base was largely moderate and center right voters. If he had not run, then the Republicans and National Front would be clear and away the top two. A base that mysteriously included former Socialist Party officials defecting ahead of the first round to endorse Macron despite him being not remotely socialist, how mysterious If your unsourced assertion that Macron's absence in the race would've redounded to Le Pen and Fillon is so obvious, why exactly were you being dishonest about the overall share of the explicit left-wing vote being larger than any of the top 3 candidates, Leon? Why even bother trying to throw out unrelated numbers like the approval rating of an outgoing presidential administration while conspicuously ignoring the actual left candidate when you could have simply led with this
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This is absolutely gross:https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/08/19/democrats-ask-twitter-tiktok-meta-about-threats-after-trump-mar-a-lago-raid.html posted:
Just the most pathetic response from this boot licking party. Asking for defense of the same organization that attempted to drive MLK JR to suicide via blackmail is so on the nose for the Dem party. Dems went ahead and defended judges who not only took rights away from women, but outright stated they plan to take rights away from gays, trans, and other minorities. Now this. The mental gymnastics to defend oppressive institutions is so on brand for Dems and liberals that it’s like these events were written by a lazy “leftist” aspiring to be the next Twitter superstar.
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:A base that mysteriously included former Socialist Party officials defecting ahead of the first round to endorse Macron despite him being not remotely socialist, how mysterious Not sure why you're being weirdly hostile and factually incorrect. You can easily google where Macron's votes came from. In the second round, his biggest increase in votes came from Republican voters. He did the absolute worst among working class and lower income voters. He also did pretty poorly with left wing voters in the first round and only collected most of the left wing vote when it was him vs. Le Pen in the second round. There were even articles in 2017 and 2022 wondering if left-wing voters would even bother to vote for him in the second round because he did so poorly with them in the first round. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/10/france-election-macron-and-le-pen-vie-for-votes-in-second-round Why would the establishment and center right political parties throw themselves out of power to bring Macron in as a bulwark against the left instead of just taking power themselves? Unless you think they were playing the extremely long game.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:This is absolutely gross: I can't even tell what you're demanding this time- that the government be okay with death threats against officials?
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Discendo Vox posted:I can't even tell what you're demanding this time- that the government be okay with death threats against officials? I don't even think they are asking for names. Just data, statistics, and content moderation policies
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:
Discendo Vox posted:I can't even tell what you're demanding this time- that the government be okay with death threats against officials? Rigel posted:I don't even think they are asking for names. Just data, statistics, and content moderation policies Not sure if both of you meant this but thank you for providing examples of my statement above. Why do Dems and liberals feel the need to interject themselves in fascist on right wing authoritarian conflict? Especially in a manner that has time and time again ensured left leaning voices are the ones that ultimately are “unwittingly” sucked up into those investigations. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Not sure if both of you meant this but thank you for providing examples of my statement above. I think you know that there is actually an interest in stopping death threats against government officials. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Not sure if both of you meant this but thank you for providing examples of my statement above. What do you think is happening here?
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Discendo Vox posted:I think you know that there is actually an interest in stopping death threats against government officials. D-Vox, I’m not sure you earnestly believe this. If that were the case, you would ultimately be in favor of the swift prosecution of members of congress and, ultimately, placing them in jail. Let’s not forget that republicans rhetoric has led to actual violence, like on Jan 6. Please be consistent with your statements. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Aug 19, 2022 23:56 |
Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Not sure why you're being weirdly hostile and factually incorrect. You can easily google where Macron's votes came from. In the second round, his biggest increase in votes came from Republican voters. lol I'm being "hostile" because I don't feel like going through the motions humoring your gimmick today, sorry The answer to your question is right there in the headline of the article you linked, and it is the entire thrust of the actual article. The point is to condense the electoral spectrum into binary a choice between neoliberalism and open fascism, which Macron has achieved successfully thus far, and create a scenario in which left opposition to neoliberalism would redound to fascism--which is just the US What anyone trying to emulate Macron here doesn't understand is that there's no appetite for that from our oligarchs because they've already had their good cop and bad cop in place for decades and see no value in a third one
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Riven posted:I was working full time and didn’t have parental support and nobody else at the time offered a full bachelor program that was at night. All the night programs were “get your Bachelor’s from your Associate’s” but I didn’t have that. My community college record was an A, 3 Fs and 7 withdrawals. I had taken CA’s equivalency exam so my high school diploma was from the state and I didn’t have a GPA. I have a couple mental health issues that by that time I had overcome but basically at the time it felt like my most realistic option for getting a degree in less than 8 years. gently caress yeah, dont give up
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