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Darth TNT: Sep 20, 2013

TwoPair posted:

I think parts have been good and parts have been bad, gonna have to wait for more before I can come to an overall opinion.

I've been really enjoying Nightwing but I felt like this issue came down with a bad case of someone having to be stupid so the plot can happen. Like, Dick knows full well Blockbuster wants to wreck his little park/project but gets no one in his big crew of heroes (including himself!) to guard it while he's out doing his big multi-point strike. And i know going "well why doesn't Superman help?" is usually a dumb question but when he's already got all the Bat-famiy + the ~~Teen~~ Grown Titans and he's already crossed over with Superman once, the question does kinda come to mind.

But I get it, at the end of the day it has to end with Dick getting wrecked and unmasked, I just don't like how it got there.

(probably don't need to add spoiler tags but the issue just came out so I'll leave them on)

The unmasking itself was kinda dumb. He was hit so hard his mask flew off? That thing that's attached like glue even when he's getting punted through a wall?

# ? Aug 17, 2022 18:41

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# ? May 25, 2024 02:07

Perry Normal: Jul 23, 2010; Humans disgust me. Vile creatures.

vseslav.botkin posted:

Anybody read One Bad Day? I just finished it and the art is spectacular, but the story is very very Tom King.

* The Riddler helped set up The Killing Joke.
* He became the Riddler after his father abused him and a teacher insisted on putting riddles on his tests.
* The Riddler reveals that he was just doing riddles because he wanted to make his game with Batman more challenging.
* The Riddler has not only always known Batman's secret identity, but also he likes to hang out at Wayne manor and watch the Bat family sleep.
* He also knows about the family members of every Arkham guard, so everyone is afraid to touch him.
* Batman and Gordon decide they have to let him out of jail despite having him on tape murdering a random person because he's so smart.
* He also has the wives of Gotham's crime bosses killed but they decide not to retaliate. They're afraid of him because he's so smart.
* Batman maybe kills the Riddler at the end?

Just an absolutely baffling comic.

I sort of like the ending if the entire point of this One Bad Day series is based on the theory about Batman killing Joker at the end of The Killing Joke, so this is a series about how far the various villains would have to go for Batman to finally give up and kill them. Sort of an interesting idea for an out-of-continuity series. But yeah, I actually like Tom King more than most people around here seem to but it's not great.

# ? Aug 17, 2022 21:58

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Tom King's comics are mostly fine to good. My issue is him being a war criminal.

# ? Aug 17, 2022 22:02

Joe Fisto: Dec 6, 2002; And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

Skwirl posted:

Tom King's comics are mostly fine to good. My issue is him being a war criminal.

I know he was in the CIA, but it is this speculation based on that or did he actually do something we know about?

# ? Aug 17, 2022 22:07

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Being in the CIA is close enough for me. The nicest things you could say is he material assisted war criminals or was terrible at his job.

# ? Aug 17, 2022 22:09

Joe Fisto: Dec 6, 2002; And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

Gotcha. ACAB.

# ? Aug 17, 2022 22:14

vseslav.botkin: Feb 18, 2007; Professor

Perry Normal posted:

I sort of like the ending if the entire point of this One Bad Day series is based on the theory about Batman killing Joker at the end of The Killing Joke, so this is a series about how far the various villains would have to go for Batman to finally give up and kill them. Sort of an interesting idea for an out-of-continuity series. But yeah, I actually like Tom King more than most people around here seem to but it's not great.

"Each One Bad Day one-shot is standalone. Each tells a self-contained story that doesn�t have any connection narrative connections with one another. They only connected on a thematic level, with each of them based around Batman taking on a classic villain."

I don't think that's the point of the series, especially since Catwoman's getting an issue.

Tom King is very talented -- the Riddler flashbacks in OBD were quite good -- but his characters often rub me the wrong way and his plotting has become increasingly nonsensical ever since Heroes in Crisis.

# ? Aug 17, 2022 22:26

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Joe Fisto posted:

I know he was in the CIA, but it is this speculation based on that or did he actually do something we know about?

He was in the cia deployed to iraq during the iraq War and is proud of his service to his country.

# ? Aug 17, 2022 22:27

Siegkrow: Oct 11, 2013; Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting

Joe Fisto posted:

I know he was in the CIA, but it is this speculation based on that or did he actually do something we know about?

The CIA is all bastards:
Source: My country had a CIA backed Coup, like half of latinamerica.

# ? Aug 17, 2022 22:39

TwoPair: Mar 28, 2010; Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta; Grimey Drawer

Perry Normal posted:

But yeah, I actually like Tom King more than most people around here seem to but it's not great.

I think he's fine but imo it seems like he either does real good or real bad and not much in between, and lately (again, opinion) he's doing way more of the bad.

...also he can seem a little up his own rear end sometimes but hey I guess that's just a writing quirk at this point.

# ? Aug 17, 2022 22:48

Codependent Poster: Oct 20, 2003

Tom King is a cover band for all of Alan Moore's greatest hits.

# ? Aug 18, 2022 00:06

bobkatt013: Oct 8, 2006; Youâre telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Codependent Poster posted:

Tom King is a cover band for all of Alan Moore's greatest hits.

I thought that was Geoff Johns

# ? Aug 18, 2022 03:05

Thranguy: Apr 21, 2010; Deceitful and black-hearted, perhaps we are. But we would never go against the Code. Well, perhaps for good reasons. But mostly never.

bobkatt013 posted:

I thought that was Geoff Johns

Geoff Johns sings Alan Moore karaoke.

# ? Aug 18, 2022 03:20

Xelkelvos: Dec 19, 2012

Morrison is the Moore cover band

# ? Aug 18, 2022 15:20

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

https://twitter.com/AshcanPress/status/1560269005247504384?s=20&t=XHEXbS288VFvmR5Iy-YyOA

# ? Aug 18, 2022 15:34

Dawgstar: Jul 15, 2017

Eighth times the charm, I guess.

# ? Aug 18, 2022 15:37

chaosapiant: Oct 10, 2012; White Line Fever

Xelkelvos posted:

Morrison is the Moore cover band

While Moore is much more influential, I far far prefer Morrison�s writing to Moore�s. This only applies to Batman, however, as I haven�t read much of anything else.

# ? Aug 18, 2022 15:51

BrianWilly: Apr 24, 2007; There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand

Jiro posted:

What's been the consensus on Mega Dark Final Infinite Crisis on One Earth but actually involves a bunch of others?

I stopped reading after Beast Boy was double tapped.

So far it very much feels like a story that could have, and should have, been told in an arc or two of the main Justice League book instead of being sold and drawn out like an event. Like, the Justice League being gone and other heroes having to step up to the plate is a fine story, but we've seen it done before, and so far there's not much this event is doing to distinguish itself from those other, honestly more dramatic versions of this story. Heck, we the readers (and also Wally this week) know for a fact that the JL members are all actually just fine, simply stuck in their own fake dreamworlds, so right now the actual stakes aren't even "How can we replace the League" but just "How do we get the League back from their fake dream worlds" which is kinda just...pretty bog-standard for a so-called "Crisis."

Oh and to say it for the third or fourth time, the Dark Crisis: Young Justice issues are so aggressively bad that I actually think it's possible that Bart, Tim, Conner, and Cassie's characterizations are going to be damaged by this in a lasting way.

In better news, Clark breasted very boobily down the stairs this week.

Like goddrat, Travis Moore. :stare:

BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Aug 19, 2022

# ? Aug 18, 2022 16:46

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

The old lady telling supes to take her to pound town is cracking me up

# ? Aug 18, 2022 17:23

Beerdeer: Apr 25, 2006; Frank Herbert's Dude

BrianWilly posted:

Oh and to say it for the third or fourth time, the Dark Crisis: Young Justice issues are so aggressively bad that I actually think it's possible that Bart, Tim, Conner, and Cassie's characterizations are going to be damaged by this in a lasting way.

Young Justice is one of my favorite DC books of all time :argh:

# ? Aug 18, 2022 17:31

Joe Fisto: Dec 6, 2002; And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

Mr Hootington posted:

The old lady telling supes to take her to pound town is cracking me up

I�m always thankful when DC editorial lets fun happen in the books. World�s Finest has been on my list for that reason, it�s fun.

# ? Aug 18, 2022 18:22

Open Marriage Night: Sep 18, 2009; "Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"

Looks like Johns is going to the JSA well again.

# ? Aug 18, 2022 23:09

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Dc needs a sliding timescale and fake world War in Europe.

# ? Aug 19, 2022 00:27

thetoughestbean: Apr 27, 2013; Keep On Shroomin

BrianWilly posted:

In better news, Clark breasted very boobily down the stairs this week.

Like goddrat, Travis Moore.

I prefer Clark to have a dadbod but if he doesn�t he should be very hot. I approve

# ? Aug 19, 2022 01:24

Abroham Lincoln: Sep 19, 2011; Note to self: This one's the good one

Superman Hot, So What?

# ? Aug 19, 2022 01:31

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

I do like the idea that he should actually be super out of shape because none of his daily activities ever cause him to actually use his muscles more than an average office worker clicking on a mouse.

# ? Aug 19, 2022 01:40

Joe Fisto: Dec 6, 2002; And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

He's a beefcake mainly due to the Kansas corn & beef diet.

# ? Aug 19, 2022 02:27

Beerdeer: Apr 25, 2006; Frank Herbert's Dude

Man, gently caress John Fox. Dick.

# ? Aug 19, 2022 02:32

Azubah: Jun 5, 2007

Wasn't Superman's design based on circus strongmen? That's a fun callback if so.

# ? Aug 19, 2022 03:17

DivineCoffeeBinge: Mar 3, 2011; Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

Mr Hootington posted:

Dc needs a sliding timescale and fake world War in Europe.

DC in 2035: "You remember the JSA? They were before the Justice League's time, during the War in Ukraine"

# ? Aug 19, 2022 03:40

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

DC in 2035: "You remember the JSA? They were before the Justice League's time, during the War in Ukraine"

There are numerous fake countries already set up to use.

# ? Aug 19, 2022 03:55

Noob Saibot: Jan 29, 2020; by Fluffdaddy

Ah is it time for the twice-in-a-decade attempt at reviving the Wildstorm universe again?

I actually liked the 2017 attempt from Warren Ellis but none of y'all wanted to support it

# ? Aug 19, 2022 05:08

Edge & Christian: May 20, 2001; Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters

That particular revamp was handicapped more by Ellis being behind on a bunch of scripts and then being outed as a massive creep more than any members of the SomethingAwful Forums declining to support it.

# ? Aug 19, 2022 05:38

Lord_Hambrose: Nov 21, 2008; *a foul hooting fills the air*

Jiro posted:

I stopped reading after Beast Boy was double tapped.

Look, it's not a big deal. Beast Boy and Cyborg are one composite being now, and the fact that you can perceive them as two totally separate beings is just an illusion cast by Raven to keep them from being consumed by despair. Beast Boys new robot parts should keep him safe in the long run.

# ? Aug 19, 2022 13:24

David D. Davidson: Nov 17, 2012; Orca lady?

Codependent Poster posted:

Tom King is a cover band for all of Alan Moore's greatest hits.

As odd as it sounds I think King is comparable to Garth Ennis.

Both are incredibly strong writers in their own ways, it's just that there are some big caveats you have to deal with.

Ennis is that he can produce some amazing works only he wants to. And he utterly despises Superhero books and absolutely cannot disguise his contempt for the genre when he comes anything close to a cape book, making something juvenile and crass.

King on the other hand has the opposite problem. He can write good stuff, it just that he should be kept away from the topics of the horrors of war and PTSD. And those are just about they only things he ever wants to write about. Not that he's necessarily bad about the subject, he draws a lot on his time in the CIA and his own experiences struggling with PTSD and it shows. The problem is he becomes way too self indulgent in writing about this things and it become overly distracting.

David D. Davidson fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Aug 19, 2022

# ? Aug 19, 2022 16:13

Chinston Wurchill: Jun 27, 2010; It's not that kind of test.

vseslav.botkin posted:

Anybody read One Bad Day? I just finished it and the art is spectacular, but the story is very very Tom King.

I just read it and I generally agree with your take. I did find it funny how young Edward's father seemed to be modeled on Kurtwood Smith, Edward looked like Micheal Stipe, and Bruce looked like John Hamm. Decent fan casting!

# ? Aug 20, 2022 02:18

Dawgstar: Jul 15, 2017

Dark Knights of Steel is back in November, according to Taylor so that's cool.

# ? Aug 21, 2022 05:24

Space Fish: Oct 14, 2008; The original Big Tuna.

Dawgstar posted:

Dark Knights of Steel is back in November, according to Taylor so that's cool.

The art with that announcement is pretty sweet:

https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/1560834040982556672?t=3wZHxv-qzfR-_9J0YY_BlA&s=19

Supergirl's outfit is *chef's kiss* please give her an idealized / superhero-fied French revolution wardrobe more often, please and thank you.

# ? Aug 21, 2022 14:15

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Batman: Shaman and Batman: Gothic both suck

# ? Aug 24, 2022 02:31

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# ? May 25, 2024 02:07

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

The penguin sending killer birds to terrorize gotham and kill thousands might be the first time one of Batman's foes hit the 4 digit range in a story

# ? Aug 27, 2022 17:30

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