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Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Seconding the multiple layers of clothing, i won't go extreme and start wearing tights (even if builders do swear by them) nylon & my skin is a bad combo.

Two pairs of thin socks & two tracksuit bottoms are really good for warmth if you don't fancy moving around a lot, i sit beside two computers so they warm things as well and if you don't like that a blanket covering your feet & legs is also wonderful.

As per kyojin going outside for a walk is mandatory for health & sanity (barring shite weather).

I also open all my windows once a day for an hour or two when the sun is warmest to get some fresh air in the house, i know you lose heat but breathing the same air all day makes me too lethargic and non thinking.

Just checked my oil tank and it's surprisingly sitting at 1/3rd full... i must have been much stingier on the heating than i thought, i'll buy another 500l and that should be me set for another year.

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Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Danger - Octopus! posted:

Oh sorry if I came across as a dick, wasn't implying you'd gone private! Was just glumly looking at how big companies are heading down that way. And yeah, I've got further self-referring to specialist NHS clinics (where that's an option) than trying to get a GP referral to them over the last year.

Oh you wern't being a dick I was just making sure other readers of the post didn't think I was talking about private healthcare.

Z the IVth posted:

30 years ago they'd go crack open a textbook. Wiki is faster.

Everyone thinks their special. Most aren't.

For every one with a rare diagnosis there'll be 10 others with something else. Most patient's legitimately have a problem, its just not always what they think it is and a good GP should be able to figure it out. In a functioning system they should be able to sus out who needs mental health help (and actually get it), who's mis-attributing their symptoms and who actually needs to be shuffled off to the specialists. Unfortunately these days they have no time, no resources and those with the skill to do this triage are rapidly leaving the service. Ergo you get flubbed off or immediately sent to wait 6-12 months on an oversubscribed specialist waiting list.

For eg. the Morgellons patients will show up with reams of paperwork but trying to persuade them that they need antipsychotics rather than antiparasitics is a very interesting conversation.

Yeah it's a weird one. If taking patient advocacy at face value was NHS policy then you'd have lots of anti-vaxxers coming up with their "research" and demanding special treatment.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Brendan Rodgers posted:

Are they googling stuff themselves in front of their patients in a performative way then?

what? i’m saying when doctors ask if patients have googled it’s because a lot of people end up at the doctor convinced of the wrong thing sometimes because they’ve googled. so it makes since for doctors to ask sometimes imo to recognize the agency of a patient regardless of how much trust they put in the research

it seems a healthier way of bringing people into their own care is all

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




mediaphage posted:

what? i’m saying when doctors ask if patients have googled it’s because a lot of people end up at the doctor convinced of the wrong thing sometimes because they’ve googled. so it makes since for doctors to ask sometimes imo to recognize the agency of a patient regardless of how much trust they put in the research

it seems a healthier way of bringing people into their own care is all

Ah yeah, I see what you mean now and I'm sorry.

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



kyojin posted:

I didn't have the heating on at all last winter to save money - I live alone so gently caress it, no-one to judge me. Here are my learnings:

*the cheapest blankets I could find are furniture/removal blankets which are about £2/3 each if you get ten+. Not very elegant but put a few in a duvet cover and pretend you are very normal. They didn't disintegrate too badly, I'll be using them again this year.

*as mentioned above thermal body layers are really effective, merino is best if you can afford it. I figured things are only going to get worse so an investment worth making imo

*uniqlo fleece joggers are decent value, I was up to three pairs at once over the merino and that kept me warm enough. Same for top layers, they have a hoody that is fleece inside but just plain black fabric outside so suitable for video meetings if you are wfh and don't want to look like a lunatic (less likely to be an issue this year because I think plenty of people will be layering up). That over a few jumpers and tshirts was pretty effective. All polyester so no good for any activity more strenuous than sitting. Get things a size up maybe, either way getting dressed becomes a ten minute farce like preparing for a space walk or something but overall that kept me warm enough to not be uncomfortable.

*fingers and toes are definitely the challenge. I wore three pairs of socks, interlaced with the many trousers, including thick wool hiking socks I already had but weren't too expensive, and then m&s fleece lined slippers. I have a pair with firm soles for during the day, and change for a pair of fleece slipper boots in the evening - as much as anything this was for separating work/not work time, sounds dumb but it was effective and above all kept my toes warm. Hands were more difficult, I tried fingerless gloves but I didn't really get on with them, bought some wrist warmers which were ok but mostly I just got used to having cold fingies during the day

*get out at lunchtime and go for a walk or do some exercise, something to get the blood moving and it's always warmer indoors when you get back

*hot drinks obviously and try to eat well, it really makes a big difference. I'd have a good meal in the evening and then lie on the sofa under the removal blankets and wonder what I was really doing with my life, but warmly at least

*have a bath since it's cheaper to heat some water and be in it I reckon. Depends on your tolerance but I'd spend an afternoon in the bath with a book at the weekend, topping it up occasionally (if you have an on demand boiler then run the tap in the sink to get the water hot before topping up). Contemplated trying to put a lid over the bath to retain the heat longer but didn't find a solution also that definitely seems like a step too far tbh, bath coffin. Bathroom door closed at least.

*hot water bottle/those bean bag microwave things, use them to get the bed warm before you get in so it's not a frozen wasteland for the first twenty minutes

*anger and hatred are surprisingly effective at raising one's temperature, all the clothes just help to capture it

It's all common sense I appreciate, but wearing 4+ layers was effective to keep me warm all winter, and you are basically heating the smallest possible space via food. It wasn't great but it wasn't utterly miserable and the gas bill was obviously very low, about £15/20 a month with half of that being the standing charge. Probably I spent as much on clothes etc as I would have running the heating at 15° or whatever, but obviously this year I'm already set up and braced for whatever loving nightmare is coming

If you'll excuse the pertinence, are you really skinny?

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


I'd free my family from the tyranny of indoor heating, comfort, and affection for me this Winter if not for this question: how on earth do you get your washing dry?

kyojin
Jun 15, 2005

I MASHED THE KEYS AND LOOK WHAT I MADE

Trickjaw posted:

If you'll excuse the pertinence, are you really skinny?

Yeah, my build is best described as "racing snake". Probably doesn't help? Idk

As just another lurker said, I also cracked the windows to prevent moisture build up, I have problems with mold at the best of times and obviously not helped by being being off..

Washing: just patience I guess? It wasn't something I noticed tbh

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Chubby Henparty posted:

I'd free my family from the tyranny of indoor heating, comfort, and affection for me this Winter if not for this question: how on earth do you get your washing dry?

Oh you sweet summer child. Poor people aren't walking around in clean clothes. Best case scenario I wear my t-shirt for only 2 days.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Also depending on the scenario, sometimes you put on your clean wet clothes and let your body heat dry them (don't do this in the dead of winter).

You would have washed them in the sink in the first place so clean is a relative term anyway.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

Just Another Lurker posted:

Seconding the multiple layers of clothing, i won't go extreme and start wearing tights (even if builders do swear by them) nylon & my skin is a bad combo.

If you can afford a couple pairs of merino tights/leggings/long johns (the type for hiking) they are really good. When I lived in the Arctic I had some that I'd wear every day in the winter under my normal trousers when I was out, and they made a huge difference. Hands are tricky as kyojin said, as a poor student I'd wear fingerless gloves indoors but I don't really like them either. Jumpers with thumb loops help a bit, or a buff or something around your wrist (not too tight). Or learn to type with gloves on.

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


Yeah this power thing is going to knock us from comfortable enough to 'oh hell this is really going to affect us'. I'd joke that the wife is never going to accept that but it may come to it.
Have finally cancelled all of my bullshit goony subscriptions except for the iww (sorry PIP) which was liberating

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Self employed tax is such a massive loving scam, the amount of things you can get tax free or get the government to just straight up pay for is insane. The more I learn about it, the more I think it should all be shut down, it's just that when people find out how bent it is they tend to claim it for themselves instead of complaining to others.

There are certain parts of it that are basically free money if you don't mind bankrupting yourself every few years.

So who will they work for? (And yes there are some scammers out there).

Things you need to consider though are: if you work in an office you get stuff like stationery, phone, heating, maybe microwave to heat your lunch, kettle, maybe coffee/tea/milk, training courses, you get employers' national insurance paid (which is a big chunk on top of what you pay), public liability insurance paid, work provided for you instead of having to go out there and advertise / market yourself, probably pay for website hosting (costs me £150pa and while I'm not self-employed at the moment as I am employed, I'm on temporary contracts and can't afford to not keep these things going

As self-employed I claimed an element of utilities, insurance, professional body membership, certain CPD, stationery inc printer ink / laser cartridges which ain't cheap, phone calls, stamps, legal advice on setting up contracts and various policy documents, advertising, and I could have claimed accountancy fees (nb tax relief ON, not the cost OF) if my affairs got more complicated. Couldn't claim for cost of training to be able to do the job in the first place. Oh and if you're too sick to work, tough. No pay and probably no help from the DWP either.

I never earned a great deal from self-employment mainly because I am a cowardy custard on the advertising/marketing front and having seen people I know get lovely public reviews on facebook or whatever for reasons outside their control (eg bride giving wrong address for makeup person to travel 40 miles to makeup the bridal party and being over an hour late getting there and makeup person subsequently getting crap all over facebook for 'letting the bride down' when it was entirely the bride's fault) makes me even more reluctant to put myself out there!

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

OzyMandrill posted:

If it was the one I posted a few weeks back, it's this one. My daughter won her first PTA cake competition with it (she helped a bit, honest). She won a spoon. Most expensive wooden spoon I've ever had.

Absolutely brutal. The "Wooden Spoon" is the traditional prize for worst entry

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
My doctor currently just says they’ll ring you back at some point in the next week, tries once then closes your ticket.

I’m effectively feeling like medical care no longer exists in the UK.

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



big scary monsters posted:

If you can afford a couple pairs of merino tights/leggings/long johns (the type for hiking) they are really good. When I lived in the Arctic I had some that I'd wear every day in the winter under my normal trousers when I was out, and they made a huge difference. Hands are tricky as kyojin said, as a poor student I'd wear fingerless gloves indoors but I don't really like them either. Jumpers with thumb loops help a bit, or a buff or something around your wrist (not too tight). Or learn to type with gloves on.

Over the years, I've now reached the conclusion you're on the run from the law. Where are they buried BSM? You can tell us.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Microplastics posted:

Absolutely brutal. The "Wooden Spoon" is the traditional prize for worst entry

Yeah it's specifically a metaphor for the failure's compensation.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Jakabite posted:

My doctor currently just says they’ll ring you back at some point in the next week, tries once then closes your ticket.

I’m effectively feeling like medical care no longer exists in the UK.

It exists as an illusion. A big charade that even tories take some kind of undeserved national pride in. But yes once you try to actually access it you become entrapped in a kafkaesque nightmare that could be instantly alleviated by going private.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

big scary monsters posted:

If you can afford a couple pairs of merino tights/leggings/long johns (the type for hiking) they are really good. When I lived in the Arctic I had some that I'd wear every day in the winter under my normal trousers when I was out, and they made a huge difference. Hands are tricky as kyojin said, as a poor student I'd wear fingerless gloves indoors but I don't really like them either. Jumpers with thumb loops help a bit, or a buff or something around your wrist (not too tight). Or learn to type with gloves on.

me posting rn

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Dear big scary monsters, how do you type with boxing gloves on?

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

Trickjaw posted:

Over the years, I've now reached the conclusion you're on the run from the law. Where are they buried BSM? You can tell us.
I could tell you, but then...

OwlFancier posted:

me posting rn


The hackerman in sunglasses shooting down his posting enemies with the pistol grip keyboard is my favourite.

Bobstar posted:

Dear big scary monsters, how do you type with boxing gloves on?
4ttyuhte5greAF[U8I9AYE5RORA

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Brendan Rodgers posted:

Ah yeah, I see what you mean now and I'm sorry.

all good posting pal

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Tbh I just see people trying to deal with things that are normal for me. I guess I'll be heading to a new extreme.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

fuctifino posted:

I'm thinking about making a survival cocoon in my flat using a tent, and insulating the bottom with cardboard and the outer with old duvets, and basically spend most of my time in there. It would be cheaper to heat that tiny space than an entire flat.

My current heating is night storage heaters. I only had one of those on this past winter, and that was expensive enough. I'm not sure I'll be able to do it again this coming winter.

I was wondering about the possibility of bodging together one of those foam/foil lined sleeping tents they were giving out to the homeless in France a couple of years ago - these things: https://mashable.com/video/igloo-shelter-homeless-france

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Trickjaw posted:

Over the years, I've now reached the conclusion you're on the run from the law. Where are they buried BSM? You can tell us.

Traditional goon location is the patio.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP
Apologies if it's been said already but the £6 tax rebate thinger for WFH was just the max you could claim without any receipts. If you can show your usage has increased due to WFH and have receipts to that effect you can claim whatever extra you're using.

VVV it's just like claiming any other work-based expenses. It's worth doing because the system was designed with old energy prices in mind, and £6 was enough to cover the odd bit of WFH, but with the new prices most people are likely to blow past that level in no time.

e2: looked it up and they changed it so you can now only claim it if you *must* wfh, not if you choose to for a day a week or whatever.

Lungboy fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Aug 21, 2022

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Lungboy posted:

Apologies if it's been said already but the £6 tax rebate thinger for WFH was just the max you could claim without any receipts. If you can show your usage has increased due to WFH and have receipts to that effect you can claim whatever extra you're using.

Ah yes, means testing.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Brendan Rodgers posted:

It exists as an illusion. A big charade that even tories take some kind of undeserved national pride in. But yes once you try to actually access it you become entrapped in a kafkaesque nightmare that could be instantly alleviated by going private.

I’ve had to point out to a number of pharmacists as I try to access emergency prescriptions that me continuing to not have my medication will result in withdrawals, a big symptom of which is killing oneself.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Jakabite posted:

I’ve had to point out to a number of pharmacists as I try to access emergency prescriptions that me continuing to not have my medication will result in withdrawals, a big symptom of which is killing oneself.

Tch that's naughty behaviour. We always give emergency loans out for antidepressants. Not really allowed for painkillers or controlled drugs though.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




HopperUK posted:

Tch that's naughty behaviour. We always give emergency loans out for antidepressants. Not really allowed for painkillers or controlled drugs though.

I once got an emergency inhaler delivered by demanding it. Took a big argument though.

Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Aug 21, 2022

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Brendan Rodgers posted:

I once got an emergency inhaler by demanding it. Took a big argument though.

Yeah that'd depend on the pharmacist. I have as a non-pharmacist now and then just silently forgotten to charge someone for a 'non emergency' prescriptionless supply. Just like I sometimes forget to charge them the prescription fee. But you can only get away with a limited amount of rule-bending.

e: I heavily lean in favour of 'sort the patient out, deal with the doctor/prescription/paperwork afterwards' but giving the wrong medication out to someone with no prescription on hand and sometimes no record of what they need is a huge liability issue and could land me personally right in the poo poo even if I'm not the pharmacist :/

OzyMandrill
Aug 12, 2013

Look upon my words
and despair

Microplastics posted:

Absolutely brutal. The "Wooden Spoon" is the traditional prize for worst entry

In a kids cookery competition, it was the only prize. Everyone else got nothing.
However, until 1909 in Cambridge, the person who got the lowest mark in maths had to sit in a chair while a giant wooden spoon was lowered ceremonially during the graduation ceremony:

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Chubby Henparty posted:

I'd free my family from the tyranny of indoor heating, comfort, and affection for me this Winter if not for this question: how on earth do you get your washing dry?

I use a dehumidifier to dry my clothes (got one from B&Q for £90 years ago), lowering the moisture content of my house also makes it feel warmer (Northern Ireland is a moisture rich enviroment).

big scary monsters posted:

If you can afford a couple pairs of merino tights/leggings/long johns (the type for hiking) they are really good. When I lived in the Arctic I had some that I'd wear every day in the winter under my normal trousers when I was out, and they made a huge difference. Hands are tricky as kyojin said, as a poor student I'd wear fingerless gloves indoors but I don't really like them either. Jumpers with thumb loops help a bit, or a buff or something around your wrist (not too tight). Or learn to type with gloves on.

Merino for an obese person is tricky both size & money wise. ;)

I love my fingerless gloves so i'm already well sorted there.

edit: i got Wrist Gaiter Gloves off Amazon that go well past the wrist, i just checked and the bloody things went up £7.50 since 2020. :argh:

Just Another Lurker fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Aug 21, 2022

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




HopperUK posted:

Yeah that'd depend on the pharmacist. I have as a non-pharmacist now and then just silently forgotten to charge someone for a 'non emergency' prescriptionless supply. Just like I sometimes forget to charge them the prescription fee. But you can only get away with a limited amount of rule-bending.

e: I heavily lean in favour of 'sort the patient out, deal with the doctor/prescription/paperwork afterwards' but giving the wrong medication out to someone with no prescription on hand and sometimes no record of what they need is a huge liability issue and could land me personally right in the poo poo even if I'm not the pharmacist :/

My local pharmacy seem to regularly assume I’m not going to pay for my prescriptions when I go to collect them, so there’s a 50/50 chance on any visit that I have to stand there awkwardly for a few seconds and then ask them to charge me for it. As much as I’d love the odd freebie it feels like a dick move when I can actually afford it.

My wife has one of those prescription exemption card things due to a permanent lifelong medication requirement and even when I collect her stuff I’ve never been asked for any kind of evidence that she’s actually exempt.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Bobstar posted:

Welcome to Wales, 47. Janus is holed up in a block of flats...

Please explain as if I am 5!

Chubby Henparty posted:

I'd free my family from the tyranny of indoor heating, comfort, and affection for me this Winter if not for this question: how on earth do you get your washing dry?

If you have a room where you could open a window and shut the door for a few hours, hanging washing on an airer, get a long length of nylon cord from a hardware store and hang it across the room (I always take one on holiday so I can wash clothes in hotel rooms), from curtain poles and door frames and setting up a desk fan to blow at most of the washing - pointing under an airer in particular so stuff dries underneath - can hurry things along.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I can’t wait til my almost entirely outdoor, uncovered work day finishes and I get to go home to a nice freezing loving flat

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




History Comes Inside! posted:

My local pharmacy seem to regularly assume I’m not going to pay for my prescriptions when I go to collect them, so there’s a 50/50 chance on any visit that I have to stand there awkwardly for a few seconds and then ask them to charge me for it. As much as I’d love the odd freebie it feels like a dick move when I can actually afford it.

My wife has one of those prescription exemption card things due to a permanent lifelong medication requirement and even when I collect her stuff I’ve never been asked for any kind of evidence that she’s actually exempt.

I don't even tick the box or sign the line, they tell me to not worry about it, I have some cool pharmacists now. But I've had some dickheads in the past.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Am spending the night in Yeovil and jfc this place is weird. Went out to the newsagent and got hassled by three separate people on the way there and back.

Mourning Due
Oct 11, 2004

*~ missin u ~*
:canada:

Necrothatcher posted:

Am spending the night in Yeovil and jfc this place is weird. Went out to the newsagent and got hassled by three separate people on the way there and back.

😐 Hassled in what way? Threatened, or just stopped & talked to? I've got some mates from there, does seem like an odd place.

Gambrinus
Mar 1, 2005

HopperUK posted:

Yeah that'd depend on the pharmacist. I have as a non-pharmacist now and then just silently forgotten to charge someone for a 'non emergency' prescriptionless supply. Just like I sometimes forget to charge them the prescription fee. But you can only get away with a limited amount of rule-bending.

e: I heavily lean in favour of 'sort the patient out, deal with the doctor/prescription/paperwork afterwards' but giving the wrong medication out to someone with no prescription on hand and sometimes no record of what they need is a huge liability issue and could land me personally right in the poo poo even if I'm not the pharmacist :/

Thankfully, I only do the very occasional locum shift these days in shops I know and I'm quite happy to "lend" a few days tablets out and then knock them off your next script.

That said, anyone who comes in acting the giddy arsehole because they can't be bothered to take any responsibility for themselves can go and sort out their own prescription through 111 or whatever.

Gambrinus fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Aug 21, 2022

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Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Mourning Due posted:

😐 Hassled in what way? Threatened, or just stopped & talked to? I've got some mates from there, does seem like an odd place.

One asked if I needed anything, another wanted the bottle of beer I bought, and a third guy just followed me back to where I'm staying yelling something at me. Fortunately he couldn't move too fast so I got inside quick and shut the door. Been reading up about Yeovil online and the consensus is yes, it is an odd place.

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