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Hamelekim posted:At least there is universal agreement that this patch sucks poo poo. Something HAS to be wrong with loot, it feels awful. I have never been this starved for basic currency like alchemy orbs, chromes, chance orbs and scours. If I run out of alchemy orbs I am done this league, this feels terrible.
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Aug 21, 2022 21:27
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Captain Foo posted:The devs of this game are GGG so naive....
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Aug 21, 2022 21:28
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what does it mean when there are two orange bars on an enemies life panel or whatever that sometimes light up? I was doing an excavation and could not kill a magic mob with gargantuan + blocks attacks plus two white mobs with consecrated ground in a magic tier 3 map and Im trying to fight out when they were immortal. I was moving them around too so they didn't just sit in concentrated ground
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Aug 21, 2022 21:31
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Hamelekim posted:At least there is universal agreement that this patch sucks poo poo. Yeah, someone probably hosed up big time.
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Aug 21, 2022 21:33
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Now, correct me if I'm wrong. But Harvest rares should 100% drop the harvestcraft material, right? And not "literally no loot at all half the time" ? Like that was the whole point of this system?
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Aug 21, 2022 21:40
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Ringo Roadagain posted:what does it mean when there are two orange bars on an enemies life panel or whatever that sometimes light up? I was doing an excavation and could not kill a magic mob with gargantuan + blocks attacks plus two white mobs with consecrated ground in a magic tier 3 map and Im trying to fight out when they were immortal. I was moving them around too so they didn't just sit in concentrated ground Ward. You ran into a rather nasty combo there: most hits they block, the first hit that does make it through gets reduced by Ward, but they're constantly regenerating life because they're on Consecrated Ground and by the time you hit them again they're probably back at full health with their Ward recharged. Basically, sucks to be you Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:Now, correct me if I'm wrong. Pretty sure only the monsters listed at the extractor in blue drop juice, but considering how hosed drop rates are elsewhere 
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Aug 21, 2022 21:42
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This is all making me quite glad I've ended up working my rear end off all weekend so haven't got out of act 1 yet! I was planning to at least get through the campaign tomorrow, but depending how quickly a patch seems to be materialising maybe I'll just play half hour or an hour here and there this week and hit maps next week once everything's fixed. Secondary bonus: decent levelling crap in the guild stash and cheap levelling uniques hopefully. For chromes it's worth having a chrome regedit code to paste into the vendors when you level. I've bought a few off the vendors (then wasted them on crap because I didn't realise how rare everything is) already.
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Aug 21, 2022 21:46
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Masonity posted:Secondary bonus: decent levelling crap in the guild stash and cheap levelling uniques hopefully. With the nerfed drop rates of uniques? lolno
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Aug 21, 2022 21:47
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Next league they should try erring on the side of too rewarding and too easy, rather than the opposite, and just gather some player retention data so they can actually see if their regular strategy of "always make the content too hard and unrewarding and have massive complaining at the start of the league, then make changes to make it easier and more rewarding over a few weeks until it's in an ok state" is actually good for player retention or not.
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Aug 21, 2022 21:47
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I have consistently gotten juice from harvest by just maximizing the bottom monsters and ignoring the first 3 completely. Got ~200 from one plot once, generally around 100. Had one plot that only dropped like 30 though. Gonna stop playing for the day and hope for a hotfix for drop rates for tomorrow. I've ran out of new maps and have like 12 chances and 11 alchs left so buying more from Kirac isn't tempting.
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Aug 21, 2022 21:49
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Yeah something is definitely up with the drop rates. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlL_2W0tFjw
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Aug 21, 2022 21:49
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Your Brain on Hugs posted:Next league they should try erring on the side of too rewarding and too easy, rather than the opposite, and just gather some player retention data so they can actually see if their regular strategy of "always make the content too hard and unrewarding and have massive complaining at the start of the league, then make changes to make it easier and more rewarding over a few weeks until it's in an ok state" is actually good for player retention or not.
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Aug 21, 2022 21:50
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whypick1 posted:Ward. You ran into a rather nasty combo there: most hits they block, the first hit that does make it through gets reduced by Ward, but they're constantly regenerating life because they're on Consecrated Ground and by the time you hit them again they're probably back at full health with their Ward recharged.
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Aug 21, 2022 21:53
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J2lSxnCVdg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-lCWWYsKoY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNMQUuQW28I Three content creators giving their thoughts on the league so far. TL;DR: it's not good, folks.
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Aug 21, 2022 21:58
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Honestly something just seems like... broken rather than purposefully changed. Surely this wasn't on purpose, right?
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Aug 21, 2022 22:01
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After not playing for a full league I was looking forward to playing some PoE again. Didn't even make it all of Friday before I quit because I just wasn't having fun. I will say as my first league back with the Archnemesis mobs being core, they suck and are a huge mistake.
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Aug 21, 2022 22:09
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Well I pretty much skipped last league and thought I'd pop in here to see if there were any cool starters, but uhh maybe I'll do some more Baal runs
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Aug 21, 2022 22:28
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Red Red Blue posted:Honestly something just seems like... broken rather than purposefully changed. Surely this wasn't on purpose, right? Yeah, it wouldn't be the first time they've hosed up drop rates by accident and then fixed it after the first few days. It's possible they tuned down drop rates on purpose so they could selectively adjust them upward (in fact I'm sure that was their approach, I think they just probably overdid it by accident).
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Aug 21, 2022 22:39
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queeb posted:3.13 with the current atlas tree. Gimme a private league with this and I'd play 20 hours a day. ggg's way more concerned that you'd get to endgame in 2 days than that you'd be playing for 2.5 months straight just making fun, cool, new builds and poo poo
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Aug 21, 2022 22:40
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DangerDongs posted:Yeah, someone probably hosed up big time. https://clips.twitch.tv/EnchantingBlueSalmonFrankerZ-6ZFiGoryUrp11z1o
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Aug 21, 2022 23:14
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I want to make the noise he makes my exalt drop sound.
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Aug 21, 2022 23:33
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Red Red Blue posted:Honestly something just seems like... broken rather than purposefully changed. Surely this wasn't on purpose, right? Probably not to this extent, but my favorite theory was that with their changes to iir/iiq and AN mods supposed to be dropping more, instead of making it be a bonus to what we had, they nerfed the drop rates on everything to try to compensate. (Doesn't explain empy's group etc though hence I am sure it's partially bugged as well.) This is the first time I've ever had an issue with map sustain and I've never had an issue before. And since trash uniques are no longer dropping either I have a problem with alch sustain as well! I'm really hoping they get to buffing stuff tomorrow or I don't know that I'll continue playing. eta, also league mechanics generally boost currency generation in some way or other but since the lakes I ran were completely trash I've been itemizing and hoarding them instead, hoping for a buff...
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Aug 21, 2022 23:34
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I really enjoyed arch nem league, but boy has it made everything since just be a chore. They really want to die on that hill. The harvest system rework itself is great I think, but just ugh. Literally should drop 5-10x what it does. This "balance around one global trade when you have hundreds of thousands of players" system is not working out for people who like to find things while playing. And I get it - changing something from 2% to 3%, with how a very small but dedicated amount of people play the game, is the difference between "very valuable" and "1c trash", but I also don't care. Part of what made the AN league fun was everyone designing new builds from ashes and omni. I hope they adjust stuff soon (i don't think this is a bug), because loot starvation aside, I'm having fun. My starter is enjoyable, and the endgame systems are still great over all. Plus the challenges are doable, so I would like this to keep my interest.
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Aug 21, 2022 23:43
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Clocks posted:Probably not to this extent, but my favorite theory was that with their changes to iir/iiq and AN mods supposed to be dropping more, instead of making it be a bonus to what we had, they nerfed the drop rates on everything to try to compensate. (Doesn't explain empy's group etc though hence I am sure it's partially bugged as well.)
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Aug 21, 2022 23:46
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xZAOx posted:I hope they adjust stuff soon (i don't think this is a bug) I certainly hope arcanist boxes dropping literally zero currency and simulacrum waves dropping literally zero items is a bug, because if not, we got bigger problems.
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Aug 21, 2022 23:58
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My starter is so scuffed but feeling honestly great in maps. Poison shield crush trickster might actually be a thing. I'm doing a take on Jung's version but Ruetoo's might be better for softcore. Next step - frenzy charges and Uber lab. Also, hopefully, ggg buffs drops.
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Aug 22, 2022 00:11
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yeah drops are hosed, I've never hit maps with this little currency before it looks like they're straight broken or bugged, not just badly tuned (why not both) ignoring that I'm generally doing alright, poo poo is really tanky though fix the drops and make these beefy enemies explode in showers of loot (same for lake) and I'll be content - I don't have the viscerally negative reaction I see to AN enemies, if something is too lovely for my build at that moment or rolls some absurd combo with other mechanics I just move on
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Aug 22, 2022 00:15
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lol I was in here a week ago saying that ggg reworks almost always end up coming out ahead of what stuff was before and people shouldn't worry that ggg is going to be gutting drops from, like, every mechanic people were worried about mea culpa, I was wrong. I'm a big ggg homer generally, but lol they broke the gently caress out of their game and we're speedrunning chris wilson apology tour 2.0 in 3 weeks right now Clocks posted:Probably not to this extent, but my favorite theory was that with their changes to iir/iiq and AN mods supposed to be dropping more, instead of making it be a bonus to what we had, they nerfed the drop rates on everything to try to compensate. (Doesn't explain empy's group etc though hence I am sure it's partially bugged as well.) same i ran out of maps and had to drop down literally 5 tiers which was bizarre because I'd pathed to the top of the tree almost right from the start so I had a fuckton of map drop nodes victrix posted:yeah drops are hosed, I've never hit maps with this little currency before I had 10 vaal orbs in 120k kills
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Aug 22, 2022 00:16
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Is this something that gets real bad in maps? I'm only in act 7 and it seems fine. Except for when there were exclusively flameweaver mobs on tidal Island and I only had fireball
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Aug 22, 2022 00:30
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Zenithe posted:Is this something that gets real bad in maps? I'm only in act 7 and it seems fine. Except for when there were exclusively flameweaver mobs on tidal Island and I only had fireball the game got significantly more tedious and less rewarding as soon as i hit maps, it stinks. i'm having a lot of fun with the actual gameplay but i'm dead broke in SSF and dropped my loot filter 2 levels of strictness so I could start vendoring more rares to get alts and alch shards
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Aug 22, 2022 00:46
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Zenithe posted:Is this something that gets real bad in maps? I'm only in act 7 and it seems fine. Except for when there were exclusively flameweaver mobs on tidal Island and I only had fireball I came out ahead of where I usually end up at map time if you ignore the fact that my floor ex aint worth poo poo anymore. About 1ex 20c once I hit maps, though most of the C was from selling jewels and mirror rings It's juiced maps and league gimmicks and such that I noticed aren't paying out well
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Aug 22, 2022 00:49
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Herstory Begins Now posted:lol I was in here a week ago saying that ggg reworks almost always end up coming out ahead of what stuff was before and people shouldn't worry that ggg is going to be gutting drops from, like, every mechanic people were worried about I'm currently reserving my judgment because it's clear that there's some pretty ugly bugs in this league. Between Strongboxes not dropping items, Simulacrum Waves not dropping items, and being able to roll maps which are not currently in the atlas (you can't run these and they bug your map tap if you put them in there) it's safe to say that regardless of what loot changes they actually intended to implement, something is hosed with them.
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Aug 22, 2022 00:50
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Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:Now, correct me if I'm wrong. I hope it’s pat of whatever big is messing with all loot drops because of not harvest doesn’t exist anymore.
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Aug 22, 2022 00:52
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Does the fist of war support gem damage boost to "hits" apply to the aoe damage of tectonic slam?
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Aug 22, 2022 00:56
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Luna Was Here posted:I'm currently reserving my judgment because it's clear that there's some pretty ugly bugs in this league. Between Strongboxes not dropping items, Simulacrum Waves not dropping items, and being able to roll maps which are not currently in the atlas (you can't run these and they bug your map tap if you put them in there) it's safe to say that regardless of what loot changes they actually intended to implement, something is hosed with them. lmao this game has the funniest bugs
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Aug 22, 2022 00:58
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Ratios and Tendency posted:Does the fist of war support gem damage boost to "hits" apply to the aoe damage of tectonic slam? Yes, all of what Tectonic Slam inherently puts out is hit damage.
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Aug 22, 2022 01:06
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Problem: Arch Nem monsters are way harder than the map boss. Solution: Map bosses all have 4 Arch Nem mods at minimum. Problem: No currency or any other loot is dropping from anywhere but Heist. Solution: Heist contracts only have 1-2 chests, and monsters no longer drop any loot inside them. Blueprints only have 1-2 rooms per wing. Also, Arch Nem mods will show up more often. Problem: Harvest takes way too many gardens to make even useful chaos orb crafts. Solution: Harvest mobs have had their lifeforce drops doubled. To balance this, Harvest will now only have 1 plot. Every Harvest mob also has at least one Arch Nem mod. Problem: Lake of Kalandra mechanic is too unrewarding, especially for its difficulty. Solution: Rewards have been increased by 10%. However, now while slotting tiles, an Arch Nem monster will spawn nearby every 3 seconds. Problem: People really don't like Arch Nem. Solution: /shrug
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Aug 22, 2022 01:34
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I spent a little bit farming contracts before finishing a10 and got a good amount of currency so if you are low on currency you can maybe try that. I normally don't like to heist since it doesn't progress my atlas and I can't do the league mechanic but I might go back to it if they don't buff lakes tomorrow
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Aug 22, 2022 02:12
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Well they are back in the office soon let’s see what happens
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a bit late but on the topic of alching maps: remember that you can use orbs of binding on them, too
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