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GonSmithe posted:They do do it for cards. It's anything over $400. What does the "authenticity guarantee" actually mean? Presumably even in the USA if someone sells you a fake and you notice they have to give you your money back even without a specific guarantee. Does it mean they have someone employed to actually check it's real?
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/chosler/status/1561709458660679686?s=21&t=lgSw9TOjq3kFHScLKBM0eA Likely bad for both consumers and vendors.
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mcmagic posted:That would be a new instance of it entering the field. Right, but unlike Oblivion Ring it will recapture what it's already holding, and also scoop up any new ones. Your opponent will get ETB triggers but that's probably manageable on 2 CMC stuff. Sickening posted:Didn’t the mod just say to not do this lmao. Nah Kettle is colorless, I think.
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Proxies are marked as such, call them what they are, fakes and counterfeits. Didn't someoe say ebay verifying sent it out in like a non insured pwe after they verified it?
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Qwertycoatl posted:What does the "authenticity guarantee" actually mean? Presumably even in the USA if someone sells you a fake and you notice they have to give you your money back even without a specific guarantee. Does it mean they have someone employed to actually check it's real? It means that if you buy a collectible over $400 the seller has to send it to eBay's facilities first, where they check to authenticate if it's real or not. Then it gets sent to the buyer.
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Aphrodite posted:Right, but unlike Oblivion Ring it will recapture what it's already holding, and also scoop up any new ones. If there is a deck that makes tokens this is a good SB card against them but anything that has this effect especially for multiple objects, you can really get blown out with.
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mcmagic posted:Likely bad for both consumers and vendors. Thankfully we still have card kingdom
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Koirhor posted:Thankfully we still have card kingdom I haven't bought cards from them in a while but I remember them being quite high on singles... Facebook groups it is!
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Cardmarket is such an amazing advantage European players have over Americans. I honestly don't think I'd have gotten that much into MTG if I didn't have access to it. Your only options for buying and selling directly to/from other players are now eBay (lol) and Facebook (lmao)? That's ludicrous. Cardmarket needs to enter the US market ASAP
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https://twitter.com/fireshoes/status/1561723652428660737 Neither of these are too exciting.
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Katana Gomai posted:Cardmarket is such an amazing advantage European players have over Americans. I honestly don't think I'd have gotten that much into MTG if I didn't have access to it. Your only options for buying and selling directly to/from other players are now eBay (lol) and Facebook (lmao)? That's ludicrous. Cardmarket needs to enter the US market ASAP P2P transactions are incredibly unlikely to ever be a meaningful model in the US.
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I have had overwhelmingly positive experiences buying and selling cards on facebook groups tbh.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/fireshoes/status/1561723652428660737 They’ve tried a bunch of different variations on Bob effects tied to combat/attacking. Have any of them been impressive? There was a energy guy that did something similar that was alright iirc.
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mcmagic posted:I have had overwhelmingly positive experiences buying and selling cards on facebook groups tbh. Agree, some of the most expensive purchases I've made have been through facebook, like my Gaea's Cradle or Earthcraft. A lot of the high-end MTG groups are pretty well moderated. I definitely understand the concern though; there's not a whole lot anyone can do if you get scammed. Doesn't seem to happen a lot, but I've seen a couple instances. It's honestly the only real reason why I haven't deleted myself off that hellsite. mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/fireshoes/status/1561723652428660737 I don't even think commander wants that awful Phyrexian Arena/Bob. Especially not when Black Market Connections just blew both of those out of the water a few months ago. Framboise fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Aug 22, 2022 |
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mcmagic posted:I haven't bought cards from them in a while but I remember them being quite high on singles... Facebook groups it is! Cardkingdom is pretty good but their prices are a little higher yeah. mcmagic posted:I have had overwhelmingly positive experiences buying and selling cards on facebook groups tbh. I've bought a bunch of stuff off of Mercari and have had good experiences as well.
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I kinda like the idea of graveyard shenanigans that Urborg Lhurgoyf can enable, but there's not enough Creeping Chill stuff to make it fun.
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I've never used any of those cause they don't seem to deliver to Canada.
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/chosler/status/1561709458660679686?s=21&t=lgSw9TOjq3kFHScLKBM0eA If I was a conspiratorial sort I'd say that eBay made a deal with TCGPlayer to acquire them if they first acquired the rest of the secondhand market
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I guess they went all in on flavor for this set and nothing else. The cards are very mediocre at best
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Panderfringe posted:I guess they went all in on flavor for this set and nothing else. The cards are very mediocre at best 😀👍
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Panderfringe posted:I guess they went all in on flavor for this set and nothing else. The cards are very mediocre at best Off the top of my head there's the 1G(R) Trample Haste elf, there's the GG Elf lord that lets you pay G to draw a card whenever you cast an Elf, Temporary Lockdown looks pretty drat good against tokens, cards seem pretty good so far? e: there's the new Tatyova that you can Scapeshift for lethal with lol
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Eej posted:Off the top of my head there's the 1G(R) Trample Haste elf, there's the GG Elf lord that lets you pay G to draw a card whenever you cast an Elf, Temporary Lockdown looks pretty drat good against tokens, cards seem pretty good so far? Check their post history lol, it’s all sadbrained bitching about the power level of every set released since they found the thread. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Eej posted:If I was a conspiratorial sort I'd say that eBay made a deal with TCGPlayer to acquire them if they first acquired the rest of the secondhand market this isn’t conspiratorial this is exactly how m&a acquisitions happen. Buyers are often hesitant to enter a market without more consolidation to remove uncertainty and communicate this to management of one of the market players
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Panderfringe posted:I guess they went all in on flavor for this set and nothing else. The cards are very mediocre at best This is retroactively ruining the box of Invasion I bought with my summer job money as a kid
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eBay now also owns the card grading service ChannelFireball started, Premier Card Grading. They might have seen this as an opportunity to be a direct grading source as well as a direct card market.
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my decision to stop buying singles continues to pay dividendsPanderfringe posted:I guess they went all in on flavor for this set and nothing else. The cards are very mediocre at best I know, isn't it a relief
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One of the secret lairs revealed today is stained glass treatments of the original Legends elder dragons which is pretty cool.
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AngryBooch posted:
Leyline of Singularity = Infinite Any sac outlet will let you sac the (now legendary) token infinite times. Any two creatures with the same name will trigger a token creation infinite times as you get stuck in a loop.
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Pablo Nergigante posted:One of the secret lairs revealed today is stained glass treatments of the original Legends elder dragons which is pretty cool. all the stuff that was in planning for a long time has 5 cards because they're now shorting all the new SL by 1 card. lmao edit: or i guess if the set needs to be 5 like the talismans pairings
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HootTheOwl posted:Leyline of Singularity = Infinite Slap a blood artist in that and you got yourself a stew?
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I thought the Elder Dragons were on the RL (which was what made FTV dragons including Nicol bolas so special) but I think i've just gaslit myself.
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HootTheOwl posted:I thought the Elder Dragons were on the RL (which was what made FTV dragons including Nicol bolas so special) but I think i've just gaslit myself. They were in Chronicles.
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HootTheOwl posted:I thought the Elder Dragons were on the RL (which was what made FTV dragons including Nicol bolas so special) but I think i've just gaslit myself. Nah they were reprinted in Chronicles which "ruined" their value. The reserved list was originally built of all the black bordered cards that hadn't been reprinted yet.
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orangelex44 posted:You realize this exact same argument, almost literally word-for-word, would apply to currency as well? You don't see any problem with that? Was not aware that magic cards were now considered legal tender, but that's great news for me. I'm basically covered for rent for the next decade just off of trash rares alone. This entire argument is silly, because it depends on artificial scarcity that WotC props up for their own interests. Once they decide that doing so is no longer useful and offer on demand card ordering, or allow a third party vendor to do so, the value of every card collapses to the cost of cardboard, ink, and shipping plus some mark-up. Until that happens the hope is that anyone who uses  to get cards has the ethical fortitude to not scam anyone, either in sales or trades. As long as that holds, there's no reason for anyone who isn't a WotC employee to wring their hands about it.
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Mat Cauthon posted:Until that happens the hope is that anyone who uses So if you buy a $30 counterfeit you just go "ah, c'est la vie, WOTC got me again!"
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I haven't bought physical cards since Arena dropped and probably won't ever again but if I bought a $30 counterfeit I'd have the same reaction as if I bought an "authentic" $30 rare and then the value dropped for single digits (or less) the next day because of a reprint or the deck falling out of the meta or whatever. "drat that sucks. oh well, wonder what other deck I can build with what I've got."
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Mat Cauthon posted:Until that happens the hope is that anyone who uses That doesn't hold. At all. Proxies and proxy events are good. Fakes and counterfeits aren't. Mat Cauthon posted:I haven't bought physical cards since Arena dropped and probably won't ever again but if I bought a $30 counterfeit I'd have the same reaction as if I bought an "authentic" $30 rare and then the value dropped for single digits (or less) the next day because of a reprint or the deck falling out of the meta or whatever. You have no problem with someone selling you counterfeit goods?? ilmucche fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Aug 22, 2022 |
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Mat Cauthon posted:I haven't bought physical cards since Arena dropped and probably won't ever again but if I bought a $30 counterfeit I'd have the same reaction as if I bought an "authentic" $30 rare and then the value dropped for single digits (or less) the next day because of a reprint or the deck falling out of the meta or whatever. Interesting
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