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mes posted:I think Fellow released a “v1.1” version of their original burrs to deal with not grinding fine enough which is what currently comes in the grinder. I think reviews still say these don’t grind fine enough for light roast coffee. The v2 burrs have been rolling out to kickstarter people for a week or two I think. "September to October" before you can buy them standalone with them coming in the grinder itself TBD it looks like. I'm basically hoping to catch a sale and then I'll buy a v1.1 and go from there. I'd like to wait for the v2 but it might be a while.
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I enjoy James' videos but God I cannot stand Lance. I do not like this crossover.
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Both of Lance's v60 recipes are pretty good, have not really watched him outside of that.
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quote:Fellow Ode Recommendations Thanks all, so what I'm getting is that I could wait a few months until their v2.0 is available to the general populace. Don't see a reason to buy the current version now with upgraded burrs. Wait, the upgrade is only that Fellow will add their own new burr to the 1.1 brew grinder. Is that correct? Helios Grime fucked around with this message at 11:02 on Aug 24, 2022 |
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MetaJew posted:I enjoy James' videos but God I cannot stand Lance. 
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Helios Grime posted:Thanks all, so what I'm getting is that I could wait a few months until their v2.0 is available to the general populace. Yeah, the upgrade is a new, redesigned burr set. The “1.1” I was referring to was the burrs as well, I don’t believe they’ve updated anything else on the grinder. The problem people are having with Fellow’s burrs isn’t the motor or anything, it’s the fact that the burrs literally cannot grind fine enough, even at the closest setting, for certain types of coffee.
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mes posted:Yeah, the upgrade is a new, redesigned burr set. The “1.1” I was referring to was the burrs as well, I don’t believe they’ve updated anything else on the grinder. I was under the impression the 1.1 changed nothing about the burrs, but merely tweaked the grind size adjustment mechanism to allow it to grind a couple of notches finer?
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That could be entirely possible and maybe I mis-read something but my understanding, at least from James Hofmann’s review, is that the original burr set literally could not grind finer because the design prevented the set of burrs from getting too close to each other, even at its minimum grind setting. Like, there was a set of teeth that made it so the burrs would not hit each other.
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Yes we certainly are   I wish news items based only on tweets and Amazon reviews would go the gently caress away
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ-tMzscXgo
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Looks like it would be pretty convenient, but it's no Bripe. I would much rather be Briping.
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It's a yerba mate bombilla (straw spoon), but for coffee. Seems a good way to continually agitate coffee grounds.
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Who knows how good the filter on it is but the metal pour over filters I bought a few years ago were as tight as paper filters
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It looks like it is trying to market turkish coffee to white people. Just let the grounds sink to the bottom and start drinking, you pussy.
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The idea of drinking coffee that has the grounds sitting in it for 10 mins sounds gross
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Fellow Ode v2 burrs are available for purchase. Use code KICKSTARTERBURRS for 30% off. That's a hell of a deal and I'm considering just grabbing the grinder and burrs right now. I'd love to see some reviews on them but so far it's just a few people on the home barista forum that have them. e: GRIND30OFF seems to be another code that can be used. fknlo fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Aug 25, 2022 |
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:The idea of drinking coffee that has the grounds sitting in it for 10 mins sounds gross well that’s exactly what cupping is and what the buyers, roasters, blenders, and everyone else involved in the chain of production does to make sure the coffee tastes its best so
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They let it sit for that long? I thought they tasted after a few minutes of steeping.
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It's also just 1 minute more than Hoffmann's French press technique - brew 4 minutes, skim + stir so coffee settles 5 minutes
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withak posted:They let it sit for that long? I thought they tasted after a few minutes of steeping. typically break the crust at 4 minutes, then start tasting at 10 when the coffee is <70° and keep tasting as it cools. It’s much too hot to get all the flavor notes after only a few minutes. e: i haven’t done a professional one or anything, just following along at home
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I use a 12-year-old Capresso Infinity for v60 pourovers with very light roasts. Is it a huge upgrade if I moved to the Ode with the these new gen2 or SSP MP burrs?
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I’m going to say yes because your burrs are probably needing replacement soon anyways.
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I have a Sage Bambino (Breville) and I wonder do I really need to use the sage brand water filters, or do I need to use a filter at all? The only place I can find the real ones are direct from sage and they are €15 each. But amazon and others are full of generic ones that claim to be compatible for much cheaper... has anyone tried these? But then, since I only ever use a specific bottled water with this machine, do I need a filter at all? (I don't like using bottled water but the water in my area is hard as gently caress and destroys everything it touches.)
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BrianBoitano posted:Yes we certainly are BoingBoing is such a worthless turd of a “news” website, p much every lovely impulse BuzzFeed/etc have ever acted on can be traced to BoingBoing’s pioneer spirit
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other people posted:I have a Sage Bambino (Breville) and I wonder do I really need to use the sage brand water filters, or do I need to use a filter at all? if you are using exclusively bottled water, or if your tap water is soft, you don’t need the filters. they’re only an option to improve the taste/keep calcium deposits out of the machine with hard water.
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other people posted:I have a Sage Bambino (Breville) and I wonder do I really need to use the sage brand water filters, or do I need to use a filter at all? On my Breville infuser’s manual, it says not to use the filters if you’re already using filtered water.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:On my Breville infuser’s manual, it says not to use the filters if you’re already using filtered water.  well I am glad I didn't buy any of the filters.
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Any tips for removing heavy scale from inside a Bonavita electric gooseneck kettle?
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citric acid or a descaler containing citric acid, 1 tsp in 1 liter, bring to a boil and empty, repeat as necessary
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After moving and finding a coffee shop that served two different locally roasted and often unusually processed speciality coffees each day, I found myself actually enjoying coffee in a way more similar to the way I enjoy tea and alcohol. I bought a Thermos JMY 350ml mug, which keeps my coffee warm through my commute and past lunchtime even if I am keeping it open for sips. It also provided a stop to leaky and scalding cardboard cups from the shop. I then ended up trading away the Moccamaster for a huge Bodum french press. I had been using it mostly to brew preground supermarket coffee when I was entertaining a lot of guests, but I wanted a smaller setup that I could easily stow in a cupboard. I also bought a Hario electric kettle on sale, not the temp control one because that seemed horribly overpriced, especially since most of the time I want to be close to boiling, even for my teas. With it I got a 350ml Hario Switch, mostly so I could do infusion brews for my commute, but have the option to play around with pourovers. For a grinder I went with the Wilfa Uniform. At the time the price difference between the silver one and the black one with a scale was negligible, which was a shame, because I do have some accurate, but small and cheap Chinese scales already. I did consider the Fellow, but with the new burrs it would have been twice the price of the uniform, which seems ridiculous. I find the Wilfa scale to be quite good though. It is responsive enough and the size is neither too big nor too small. I am excited to keep drinking speciality coffees roasted here in Norway. Coffee shops around here are hardly cheap, so the equipment should pay for itself in less than a year, but even if it didn't I am having a lot more fun with coffee now. thotsky fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Aug 28, 2022 |
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Prince Turveydrop posted:I use a 12-year-old Capresso Infinity for v60 pourovers with very light roasts. Is it a huge upgrade if I moved to the Ode with the these new gen2 or SSP MP burrs? You'll probably notice a difference with light roasted coffee, it's hard to calibrate what "huge" means though. The biggest delta, or upgrade, you'll get with coffee is having a decent burr grinder and being able to grind beans fresh before you use them. With an Ode with SSP burrs (and hopefully these new gen 2 burrs are good!) you'll have a more consistent grind so you'll be able to grind the beans finer to push extraction up compared to the Capresso. Whether this is a huge upgrade, or an upgrade worth $300-$500, just depends on how much you're into coffee I guess.
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Alright, got a Delonghi kinda consumer level 51mm portafilter espresso/drip coffee combination machine and I've been enjoying making espresso with it enough that I've come here to ask about what the next best step up is. From the OP:OP posted:You can also go as low as a DeLonghi EC155 and take a dremel to the plastic bottom of the portafilter to make it bottomless. People get good results with this, but because it is a lower end machine, the walls on the portafilter are thinner making temperatures fluctuate more and it also has a weird size which can make finding a tamper hard. There is a lot of plastic on this machine, too. So looking at the EC155 it's basically the same as what I have, with a 51mm portafilter etc. I don't particularly want to start putting a dremel to it and would sooner outright replace it. I have a proper drip coffee setup already, and french presses, and all that kind of thing. I'm really looking for a purely espresso solution here. I do generally just make and drink double espresso shots but I'd like a steam wand as well for the obvious lattes and other frothed milk espresso options. I am aware that a grinder is extremely important and will be looking for one of those as well, recommendations welcome. Is the Rancilio Silvia still the recommended baseline for espresso machines? Anything else to look at since the OP was created? What does the thread like? Is there an espresso thread I should poo poo up instead? I don't mind spending around a grand on this (~750usd) but only if there is a benefit to it. Thanks thread!
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Speaking of Silvias- I'm pretty sure I screwed up my pressure when adjusting my OPV a while back and want to unscrew it. Is there a place that sells 58mm portafilters with a pressure gauge on them or if there's a PF that doesn't suck to disassemble so I can make my own?
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Thanks for the replies. Looking around I see a lot of talk around the Gaggia Classic Pro and the Breville Bambino series when the Silvio is being discussed. They're all grinder-less and seem very similar. Also all missing a PID. I would kinda balk at buying a breville which I associate with kinda consumer grade low end stuff. Can't help but notice the DeLonghi La Specialista Arte is on sale with free shipping. This one doesn't tamp for you (which is fine, I need practice and enjoy it) but it does grind for you which is huge to not have to also buy a grinder. If you add the cost of a grinder to a machine like the Gaggia classic etc it's not really much more expensive even. What am I missing that makes this not a good option? e: ah, 51mm basket size and probably very limited options for replacement baskets. And actually very poor reviews for longevity. Now that I thought to check amazon warehouse deals for damaged packaging products I'm seeing a fair few number of deals and especially marked down is the Breville Barista Express, which has a 54mm portafilter. It's clearly more of a home machine but it's PID, has a very adjustable grinder, and has reviewed very well. It also comes with single wall and double wall baskets. Is this homeowner level trash or does the thread think it would be good for a beginner in this space? VelociBacon fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Aug 29, 2022 |
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That DeLonghi looks pretty similar to the Breville equivalent (Barista Pro). I haven't read any reviews for that DeLonghi, but typically you get a pretty basic, barely adequate grinder in these combo machines. And as you mentioned, accessories are a little more limited for 51mm. (I typed this up before your last edit, but I'm leaving it in.) I went from a cheap DeLonghi and Capresso Infinity to a Gaggia Classic Pro and a Baratza Sette 270wi. Temperature surfing on the GCP is kind of annoying, and the Sette is loud AF, but overall its a pretty decent setup. I also bought a milk frothing pitcher, so I never use the steam wand on the GCP. These days the Niche Zero is readily available and exchange rates make it a little more affordable, so that's probably the best of the not crazy expensive grinders for espresso. The Lagom Mini with the upgraded burrs is supposed to be a pretty solid "budget" option too. I'd probably get the Niche and spring for a PID single boiler something if I was buying today. I wouldn't go for an appliance type machine like the Breville or DeLonghi personally.
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Bandire posted:That DeLonghi looks pretty similar to the Breville equivalent (Barista Pro). I haven't read any reviews for that DeLonghi, but typically you get a pretty basic, barely adequate grinder in these combo machines. And as you mentioned, accessories are a little more limited for 51mm. (I typed this up before your last edit, but I'm leaving it in.) Thanks for the reply and sorry for editing my post there so much. The Niche Zero by itself, imported to Canada, with customs fees, would be around $1,000 and thus way over my budget at this time. Ideally I would have a burr grinder separately and just a single boiler PID machine, where both devices are great representations and very focused in what they do. I wonder about a Gaggia Classic pro (with an eye to PID mod down the line, I already do arduino stuff) with a seperate grinder as being a good setup for me, if the combo machines are truly lovely. What would be a good entry level burr grinder? It would only be used for espresso, I have a grinder for drip/french press.
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VelociBacon posted:Thanks for the reply and sorry for editing my post there so much. People love the Eureka grinders too, but those might end up being in the same neighborhood as the Niche in Canada. The Baratza Sette 270s are good but they are super loud. The Lagom Mini is interesting, supposedly good for espresso, and should be cheaper, but there are some caveats. It is effectively a motorized hand grinder, but if you aren't grinding a ton of coffee in a day it could be a good option. Worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6803CHHLFY I wouldn't say the combo machines are lovely, but they can be limiting and hard to get consistent espresso out of. The Gaggia being really mod-able and repairable is a big plus over the combo machines too.
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VelociBacon posted:Thanks for the reply and sorry for editing my post there so much. I have a Eureka Manuale and I absolutely love it. Paired with a Breville The Infuser (the old version where you can run the whole shot in per-infusion so it sticks around 9-bar). I got it cheap used and it works well for me. For the Eureka stuff, this thread recommended this site, which saved me a ton ton of money. Dunno about Canada though, I'm in the USA. https://www.espressocoffeeshop.com/en/8-coffee-grinders It also shipped to me in no joke less than 48 hours. Also do the "ask for a discount code" thing, they'll give you a 5% usually. Pilfered Pallbearers fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Aug 29, 2022 |
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