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mr.belowaverage posted:I would have assumed this is the case, but my experiences are suggesting otherwise. Finding a management job takes a really long time and lots of resumes. Branching out to professional groups (again, doesn't need to be super specific to your niche) and building the network is also more important in management than in individual contributor roles. I'm not saying it's easy, but I'm saying typically most people don't expand their search enough. Xguard86 posted:Probably it's how you're presenting yourself not who you are . They are unfortunately different skills. Good advice.
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I have an interview (with a recruiter) tomorrow for a role that sounds like a good fit for me but in an entirely different sector. I'm confident that I know my poo poo and can speak well about solving problems, being innovative, etc. But there are specifics that I don't have (sector experience, specific degrees or certifications in my field, etc...) because my career has followed a weird path. I've only been applying to globally famous companies and haven't gotten a nibble but this is the only random recruiter ad I remember applying to and I'm speaking to someone. We'll see how it goes.
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pseudanonymous posted:I don't mean to be unsympathetic, but this is SA. I feel like I don’t get the joke here. I meant in trying to make a professional evaluation of my resume, I’d consider myself a good candidate, worth at least meeting with. quote:In general, you might be marketing yourself wrong, not have done a serious rewrite of your resume since you were in college if you've been in one place for a long time. You may be at the level where you need to have multiple versions of your resume for different types of jobs. Maybe. I was solicited to apply to a posting, and then did so, and was still passed over without a call. Not sure what that means. quote:The other thing is networking, it's always much easier to get jobs if you know people and if people know you. Unfortunately, this isn't something that you can cram like a test, but you can start attending events, making comments on LinkedIn, joining relevant industry groups and commenting on the big threads, and maybe write an article on LinkedIn, I've written a couple of short articles and they get a number of views. I have done a bit of this, but my industry doesn’t really do this stuff. The article is a good idea though!
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mr.belowaverage posted:I feel like I don’t get the joke here. Buffalo Bill, Silence of the Lambs
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Bill Pullman posted:I have an interview (with a recruiter) tomorrow for a role that sounds like a good fit for me but in an entirely different sector. I'm confident that I know my poo poo and can speak well about solving problems, being innovative, etc. But there are specifics that I don't have (sector experience, specific degrees or certifications in my field, etc...) because my career has followed a weird path. I've only been applying to globally famous companies and haven't gotten a nibble but this is the only random recruiter ad I remember applying to and I'm speaking to someone. We'll see how it goes. Update: I think it went well. I think I conveyed my unique me-ness and answered all questions thoughtfully and with loads of relevant details. I was also honest about my lack of sector experience but talked about how I also started at my current company with zero sector experience and made sure to learn everything I needed to succeed. She said I was a very strong candidate and she hit "recommend" in her system while we were on the call. On monies, she told me that the pay is up to 95k at the start, which was nice to hear from a transparency perspective. In my mind I'd like to hit 100k and I consider myself a catch. I'm currently on a hair below 80k with very good benefits but I didn't tell her that. I just said "If we get to that stage we can discuss in more detail." Anyway, she said I'd hear in a week or so. If nothing else it was interesting practice. I've never really had a proper external interview since I joined my current firm at a super low level contractor and worked my way up bit by bit. So it feels good, regardless of what happens, to confidently say "I'm the poo poo, take me as I am."
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Well gently caress, turns out one first interview for an internal IT gig actually sounded pretty promising and now I will probably have to consider them seriously as well. I would be alone in my position for the foreseeable future (save for a freelancer), but apparently the position will be doubled in the mid to long term. Which might even allow me to bring my current (beloved) colleague on, which would be awesome. Save for the "loneliness" for the time being and clear indications that they expect me to take on a non-zero junk of the customer support (There are only 3 techs), everything else checks out. Even on money it looks like they'll be among the better offers. The potential 'downgrade' to doing grunt work more often is not making me jump for joy, but on the other hand this would let me remain in a more allround position (which uses a lot of the same tech stack I am used to), unlike most of the other offers that I have entertained so far, which all have me specialising or straight siloing in some way. I've also been offered a few team lead positions recently and I really don't think I want to be that, I don't want to own other people's responsibilities on top of mine. On one hand it will be the only remaining way up after this change now, on the other hand I don't think I nevessarily need to go further.
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I work in compliance, analyze accounts and write up reports about clients. My boss quit. We are just a 3 worker + boss team. We all applied for the position and my co-worker got the job. I really psyched myself up that I had a chance to be the boss, but good for my co-worker. My boss's boss said that I am able to write really well but my public speaking skills needed improvement. I already know this, I'm a awkward, nerdy dude. I thought I was a good enough, not perfect, public speaker, but whatever. My boss's boss wants me to work on this skill by presenting our monthly reports to the board of directors (something my boss used to do). I feel like I was ambushed today when asked to do this. My boss's boss doesn't know that I'm on a 4-5 year plan to leave and start my own business. I thought if I got the boss spot I might delay that 5 year plan, but now I'm wanting to just do the minimum amount of work and responsibilities until I leave (especially since I'm not getting a manager's pay raise). How do I be like "if you aren't making me the boss, don't give me more responsibilities"? Or do I just keep my head down and apply for jobs elsewhere?
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Getting experience delivering reports to an influential BoD is some of the best experience you could ask for if you're looking to start your own business, especially if you think that's not a strength of yours. Not to mention the opportunity to make connections that make or break a new company. How much work is it do the reports and present them? Honestly if it's just an hour prep + attend the meeting your Grand Boss is giving you a really good opportunity....
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Fozzy The Bear posted:I work in compliance, analyze accounts and write up reports about clients. Lockback posted:Getting experience delivering reports to an influential BoD is some of the best experience you could ask for if you're looking to start your own business, especially if you think that's not a strength of yours. Not to mention the opportunity to make connections that make or break a new company. It sounds like your grand boss isn't 100% about your current boss, or he's thinking about you for a new team that might open up next fiscal. Do what you can to make yourself more successful in the long term. If you know you need to improve in the area you're being asked to do additional work, that's a good opportunity even if you're not paid extra for it.
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leper khan posted:It sounds like your grand boss isn't 100% about your current boss, or he's thinking about you for a new team that might open up next fiscal. Do what you can to make yourself more successful in the long term. If you know you need to improve in the area you're being asked to do additional work, that's a good opportunity even if you're not paid extra for it. Yeah, this is also very likely.
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Lockback posted:Getting experience delivering reports to an influential BoD is some of the best experience you could ask for if you're looking to start your own business, especially if you think that's not a strength of yours. Not to mention the opportunity to make connections that make or break a new company. leper khan posted:It sounds like your grand boss isn't 100% about your current boss, or he's thinking about you for a new team that might open up next fiscal. Do what you can to make yourself more successful in the long term. If you know you need to improve in the area you're being asked to do additional work, that's a good opportunity even if you're not paid extra for it. Just an extra two hours of work per month. Thanks for the added perspective.
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Fozzy The Bear posted:My boss's boss said that I am able to write really well but my public speaking skills needed improvement. I already know this, I'm a awkward, nerdy dude. I thought I was a good enough, not perfect, public speaker, but whatever. My boss's boss wants me to work on this skill by presenting our monthly reports to the board of directors (something my boss used to do). I feel like I was ambushed today when asked to do this. Take the weekend to get over the feeling of ambush and try to see this for the opportunity it is, as other posters have said. Developing your presentation skills will be useful in almost any future endeavor, doubly so if you're going to start a sole-propritatorship. It seems like it might be a niche skill only to be used at meetings, but it's actually the same skillset you use to make an elevator pitch, network at an event, close a sale, negotiate a price, and so on. I learned presentation skills at a young age and it's been insanely useful in my non-traditional career path.
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Fozzy The Bear posted:Just an extra two hours of work per month. Yeah you really should be looking at this as like: You applied for a job, the person looked at your qualifications and saw a deficiency, so they didn't give you the job. Seeing your potential and desire for promotion, they see a way to help you overcome that deficiency. To be honest if one of my indirect reports asked for a promotion and I found a way to give them the skill they were lacking to get that promotion and then they didn't want to do it, I would be a bit irritated.
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There's a job opening on my team which would represent the next rung on the ladder compared to where I am now. I meet the minimum qualifications and do the same type of work, just on less complex projects. However, I've only been working here for 10 months. Is that too early to be seeking a promotion? I'm definitely not bad at my job, but I don't think I've blown anyone away with my output thus far either. Frankly, my biggest fear is getting laughed out of the room by people whose opinions I value, rather than my normal job hunting experience of getting ghosted by people I don't know.
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Baronash posted:There's a job opening on my team which would represent the next rung on the ladder compared to where I am now. I meet the minimum qualifications and do the same type of work, just on less complex projects. However, I've only been working here for 10 months. Do you have trusted colleagues who are familiar with the culture and politics of the org (e.g., your boss)? Why not ask them if they think you should apply? This may or may not be appropriate in you situation, but it is for me. I'm not sure how strong your relationships are after less than a year on the job, but hopefully strong enough to get some honest input. That discussion doesn't even need to be reflective of your performance, either. You might hear "Yeah you should definitely demonstrate that you're eager" or "You don't want that job" or whatever.
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probably not your boss. this is why you need a rabbi or mentor. if you don't have one, get one.
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10 months on the job I'd probably have a chat with your boss. If he wants to spike your move, he can, and how I'd feel about someone trying to move from my team under a year would depend a lot on context. I don't think I'd want to hear about that from someone else, or if the new role was still under your me(as the boss) I'd probably want to chat with the newbie first to set expectations they might not understand within the company yet. I'd sorta expect a "You can apply but we're looking for someone with xyz", which is honestly good level setting. After you've been there a while the board changes and talking to a mentor or something first makes more sense, yeah. But I'd maybe lean more into transparency and openness with your leadership if you're that early.
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Thanks for all of the advice. I was psyching myself up to talk to my boss about it as y'all suggested, and he ended up mentioning the prospect of applying for the position and we had a short discussion about it. 
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Anyone here work with Epic? I work in healthcare in sort of a data analyst role (make data viz with tableau and maintain MS Access databases). I have gotten certified in the Epic Cogito data model and have the opportunity to get certified in Caboodle and Clarity data model. From what I can gather these certs are pretty useful to have. Are there any other certs I should look to obtain while I am still working in my current role?
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Javes posted:Anyone here work with Epic? I work in healthcare in sort of a data analyst role (make data viz with tableau and maintain MS Access databases). I have gotten certified in the Epic Cogito data model and have the opportunity to get certified in Caboodle and Clarity data model. From what I can gather these certs are pretty useful to have. Are there any other certs I should look to obtain while I am still working in my current role? Are you aiming to stay with analytics? They have another analytics product geared towards research called Cosmos, though I don’t know how widely used it is or whether there’s a certification for it. Healthy Planet might also be a decent option if you want to branch out to working within Epic, though the product itself is a little lackluster. Clinical application certifications wouldn’t be a bad thing to pursue, with the one that makes the most sense probably depending on the work you do already. That would give you a better understanding of the underlying data
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Lockback posted:Getting experience delivering reports to an influential BoD is some of the best experience you could ask for if you're looking to start your own business, especially if you think that's not a strength of yours. Not to mention the opportunity to make connections that make or break a new company. This reminds me of something I've been wondering about for awhile - does anyone have experience joining a board of some sort? Preferably/realistically a non-profit organization, as I'm guessing (or I would hope) there aren't lots of goons on the boards of publicly traded organizations. To state the obvious - I'm interested in something that will be beneficial to the community, as well as establish some connections with local execs. I previously volunteered for Junior Achievement quite a bit, but they wanted more diversity than another pale male on their BoD, which I totally understand. I have also participated in a regional tech council but I'm not senior or technical enough to get on that.
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Y'all, I am Burnt Out. For the past decade or so, I've been working in medical offices doing patient accounts/insurance preauth/billing/reception/scheduling/records. I've worked in three different ophthalmology offices but switched to working a remote medical records job when the pandemic hit. I'm so tired. There are a lot of aspects to these jobs that I do like, but they don't pay well and I'm about to lose my mind over dealing with the general public. I like figuring out how to get things done around various rules and regulations, I like making insurance companies pay for things they don't want to, I like knowing where information is in different computer systems and what to do with it, I like getting patients what they need regarding records or information or whatever. I do not like playing customer service representative, I do not like stupid office politics, I do not like wearing scrubs, I do not like driving 45 minutes on the highway to work. I might be okay staying in the medical administration field if I didn't have to deal with patients. I LOVE working remotely. I do have some moral issues with working for a health insurance company even though I could probably be a claims adjuster no problem. I don't have a degree of any sort, not even a medical coding certification. I kind of want to get away from medical/billing completely but I don't even know what all else is out there, you know? Like that's literally all I have on my resume.
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Paralegal? You'd need an associate's but that's not incredibly onerous.
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Interestingly, my husband is a paralegal. He got his associate's a few years ago after being a professional baker for 10 years. The problem with me going back to school is, as always in America, health insurance and money. My husband is an independent contractor, so he can't get insurance through his job. If I'm not working full time, we'd have to buy it on the exchange and god only knows how much that would cost. Then there is paying for school. Community college isn't hugely expensive, but again, if I'm not working full time and paying for health insurance... Could I work full time and go to school? Maybe. Maybe not. I did go to college 15ish years ago but didn't finish (my parents gave my leftover college fund to my husband when he went back to school). I don't know if my credits would transfer, but if they did they'd probably cover most of my prereqs. I don't want a career. I just want a job that has insurance and pays me enough to live and doesn't make me hate my life (ie, anything with a customer service aspect). I just don't know how to find it.
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Have you considered some of the online programs out there? (By accredited, nonprofit schools ofc). There are some that are well-geared towards working professionals and have accelerated and asynchronous schedules, and the prices are pretty competitive with community/state colleges. They’re not generally ~highly regarded~ schools, but they will get you a legitimate degree as far as HR is concerned. SNHU and WGU come to mind. Additionally, if you’re at a hospital check what they have for tuition reimbursement programs- a lot of times these are buried in the benefits pages but can help out. If you’re not terrified of math, you may want to consider data analytics- having a medical coding background will be a big advantage for steady employment and there are no patients anywhere near those teams.
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I wonder if you could get a job with one of the EMR outfits.
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To be clear, I don't want to go back to school, but I guess I will if I have to.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:To be clear, I don't want to go back to school, but I guess I will if I have to. Ok then, what other skills do you have that you think are employable?
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:To be clear, I don't want to go back to school, but I guess I will if I have to. You don't definitely have to but even an associate's is going to give you more options.
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Lockback posted:Ok then, what other skills do you have that you think are employable? I show up on time to work every day and generally get along with people? I don't know how to define my skills outside of medical/insurance! It's like I have no frame of reference for anything outside medical office work. I don't even know what I'd want to do. I feel very stupid saying this but that's how it is. The patient accounts/billing stuff would probably translate okay to general accounting, and I suppose I could take a Quick Books class somewhere. I do enjoy making all the numbers add up at the end of the day. Very satisfying. I did briefly have a job like that pre-Covid but my position got rolled into someone else's so I was only there for like eight months. HelloIAmYourHeart fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Aug 21, 2022 |
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So I have this friend I used to work with at my last eye clinic job and she just recently got a job at a new eye clinic. Thursday morning she sent me a text that they were looking for a surgical pre-auth person. Thursday afternoon I had an interview. Friday afternoon I had an offer. I'll have to go back into an office and wear scrubs and work with insurance again, but it's a much smaller office than I've previously worked in, and my friend assures me office culture is very chill. It's also a SEVEN DOLLAR per hour raise over my current job. So job crisis over, I guess. I didn't really want to go back to eye insurance but if I can work with a friend in a chill place that's just 20 minutes away, I think I can deal with that.
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I don't really know what I'm doing. I have a BS in Electrical engineering but have never really used it. It's now 12 years old and I've been a stay at home dad over that time. Kids are getting older and need less from me, so I'm thinking of going back to school for something. A couple certifications have caught my eye, but I was hoping to get some feedback before I embarked on any of them. 1) GIS. https://extension.fullerton.edu/professionaldevelopment/certificates/gis. Maps and technology seem like a Venn diagram overlap of my interests, but I don't know if there are enough jobs I'd be competitive for to make sense. The jobs I've seen have been local city governments and a local water company. 2) Data Scince - https://extension.fullerton.edu/professionaldevelopment/certificates/gis. I enjoyed Matlab programming probably the most of anything in engineering. I haven't actually coded anything in years however. Indeed job search for entry level data science seems a little dry. 3) AWS/IT - An aquaintance in IT recommended AWS certs as a good way into an IT career. Not sure how an older guy would fit in as an entry level guy. Anyone have any experience here?
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Anyone else seeing a slowdown in job hits? I'm in a tech-related marketing role and used to get good quality hits once or twice a week. Now, nothing for almost four weeks!
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Yep for sure. Used to get 3-5 people reaching out about consulting gigs. Last few weeks have been one or none.
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I generally keep my resume/CV and some sort of boilerplate cover letter more or less locked and loaded on the off chance I see something cool and want to apply. I have been working in craft beer sales and brewery operations (briefly) for the last five years or so (minus a year basically thanks to COVID), but I've been house-spousing for the past few months after briefly diving back into beer sales and confirming that I do not want to be in beer sales anymore. I have often daydreamed about going back into a field more closely related to my academic experience (I mastered out of a phd program in life sciences in the mid 2010s for a number of reasons, some personal, some because I ultimately was at the "Wrong" university). Recently I saw an entry level job for a biotech that looks interesting to me, both in terms of the role, and the fact that it would be doing something more beneficial for the world aside from selling kegs to scumbag restaurant owners. I meet/exceed all of the qualifications, though I've been out of that industry for close to a decade now. I have somewhat kept abreast of research over the years as well. My resume at this point reflects my accomplishments in the craft beer industry, as well as technical certificates that I earned during the pandemic while cooling my proverbial heels. This resume does include things that are relevant/valuable to this job, but at this point practically the only thing there that tips me off as being in any way qualified for this job is that I have an MS in a related field. How do I re-tool my resume to show that I know poo poo and can do this job, without making it look like I've done nothing since 2015 or so? Or do I leave it more or less as is (except for adding in qualifications on my "Skills" keyword SEO section so I pass an HR screen) and just kind of explain myself in a cover letter? Or something else? thanks in advance, and I apologize for the wordy text. I opened up my most recent resume and got completely overwhelmed.
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Bayham Badger posted:working in craft beer sales and brewery operations (briefly) for the last five years Can I ask what kind of biotech and what role within it? What masters and undergrad? I've worked in pharma and biotech companies for quite a while and am a hiring manager now, though not for really entry level jobs (though that means different things). I think the main issue is that really entry level jobs like admin are not going to be looking for scientific knowledge, just experience in similar role and company. If you do interview for one of those positions it will be hard to get over the assumption that you'll move on very quickly. Biotech sales would likely be a good avenue to look at as you have experience selling stuff and will be able to talk the scientific language. It would be worthwhile doing some short online education in the therapeutic area of the target company so you're really clued in to the subject. But yeah if you give more detail on what you're looking at I might be able to help better. There's also the CV thread which will give good advice on how to present your experience.
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Step 1: Build a resume from scratch with Biotech in mind. This is a big change from the brew industry that honestly I'd start from scratch. This resume should lean as heavily as you can with a straight face into stuff from school and as much relevant work skills as you can. Include your experience but the resume should look and feel different than your other one. Step 2: Post in the resume thread and we'll probably rip it to shreds. Put on your big-kid pants and take the criticism objectively (and also be smart enough to take or leave advice as is fitting). Step 3: KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:If nothing else you are going to get really loving good at both presenting your narrative and writing cover letters.
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knox_harrington posted:Can I ask what kind of biotech and what role within it? What masters and undergrad? It appears to be a small (<12 people) company, involved in waste remediation through proprietary enzymes. Job would be going back to the bench in what appears to be something of a technician role (cloning, sequencing, protein purification as well as lab management, primarily). It sounds like the company has a fair bit of optimization to do, as well as opportunities for new product development, so it seems like there may be avenues upward from this position. The only thing the job entails that I haven't personally done a ton of is protein purification and characterization, but I have a solid understanding of what that work entails. As for my background, I think my Masters was officially in "Biomedical Research," but I'm a cell biologist, with experience in virology and microbiology. Undergrad was a hippy dippy school that I got a nonspecific BS and BA from. But the course equivalencies probably break down into Molecular Biology and Evolutionary Biology. I get what you're saying about being a strong candidate for biotech sales, buuuuuut I have a gut feeling that sales is not what I want to be doing? Namely, I do not enjoy the prospect of a large amount of travel (ie >25%. Occasional trips would be fine, but I'm not interested in traveling as a part of my weekly schedule), and basically, I want to have a set physical place to go to work (or be able to WFH), rather than being on the road/making in-person sales calls. At most, I would possibly be interested in account or project management, possibly implementation. Maybe I'm wrong in my thinking that sales would involve a lot of road time. Happy be to told otherwise. lockback and kyoon, appreciate the advice/comments as well. I'll get to work on the new resume, hold my breath and  in the resume thread.
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I think the sales stuff was posted because you're both trying to transition industry and role. If you transition industry but not role, that's easier for people to comprehend. Then you are more able to transfer role once you're in the industry. It might suck for a while but if you can suck it up in service of a goal you might be more successful. I don't know the industry well enough to really comment on the specific viability of the strategy, though.
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