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Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Wittgen posted:

I do have to wonder if he meant to destroy Erick's amulet of non-detection.

I doubt he had any thoughts in that direction, he is barely recovered from being insane and had a tiny meltdown when confronting what almost destroyed him.

Also lol that Melemizargo made him a massive black dragon, and that Rozeta calls him a poo poo head because of it

Peachfart fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Aug 21, 2022

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
he's not just a black dragon- iirc those exist naturally anyway. he's specifically a smaller version of Melemizargo, a Western dragon with huge wings, trailing Benevolence instead of Darkness. Mel called him the Fire of the Age, a Herald of Darkness, and he literally made his dragon form into that. It's religiously significant beyond the horns and the color. Which is why it's going to freak people out even worse than the Wizard thing lol.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Larry Parrish posted:

he's not just a black dragon- iirc those exist naturally anyway. he's specifically a smaller version of Melemizargo, a Western dragon with huge wings, trailing Benevolence instead of Darkness. Mel called him the Fire of the Age, a Herald of Darkness, and he literally made his dragon form into that. It's religiously significant beyond the horns and the color. Which is why it's going to freak people out even worse than the Wizard thing lol.

Good point, again Melemizargo is awesome and I love how he stirs poo poo.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Got an email about PracGuide's author starting his new series soon! Really excited for it. He says he's been enjoying it a lot, so it seems like making a completely new series was a good idea.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
TWI Patreon: GIVE US FRENEMY PERSUA PIRATEABA YOU COWARD

Tom Clancy is Dead
Jul 13, 2011

I need to finish off Prac Guide sometime. I lost steam in the war with Keter and never got back into it.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Tom Clancy is Dead posted:

I need to finish off Prac Guide sometime. I lost steam in the war with Keter and never got back into it.

IMO the war in Keter went about as well as it conceivably could have (and the series as a whole stuck the landing way more than I expected it to), but was still probably the weakest point in the story (except for maybe parts of the drow arc, which works well in hindsight but kind of dragged when it was ongoing).

Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed
The ender's game arc was very clearly the weakest point. It did some very important foundation setting for the rest of the story but it wasn't great.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
“This is going to be awful,” said Alfric.

7c Nickel
Apr 27, 2008
Wasn't there a thing where people made fun of a webserial using Evanescence as their example of incredible timeless music?

WE HAVE SUCH SIGHTS TO SHOW YOU

https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1561719517272690688

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Is this an all time number one or just looking at a recent amount of time?

If the former, how are recent KPOP singles numbers 2 and 3, and if the latter how the gently caress is evanescence number one lmao

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

The Shortest Path posted:

Is this an all time number one or just looking at a recent amount of time?

If the former, how are recent KPOP singles numbers 2 and 3, and if the latter how the gently caress is evanescence number one lmao

being goth is hip again

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

I dig it

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
TWI 9.10W patreon: this characterization of wiskeria is pretty clearly a retcon, but it also makes her faaaaaaaaaaaaar more interesting of a character so im fine with it

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

7c Nickel posted:

Wasn't there a thing where people made fun of a webserial using Evanescence as their example of incredible timeless music?

WE HAVE SUCH SIGHTS TO SHOW YOU

https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1561719517272690688

Amazing.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

7c Nickel posted:

Wasn't there a thing where people made fun of a webserial using Evanescence as their example of incredible timeless music?

WE HAVE SUCH SIGHTS TO SHOW YOU

https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1561719517272690688
yeah uh Re: Trailer Trash or whatever it's called, she was like "this is the greatest music of the fuuuuuture" and played it on piano

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

7c Nickel posted:

Wasn't there a thing where people made fun of a webserial using Evanescence as their example of incredible timeless music?

WE HAVE SUCH SIGHTS TO SHOW YOU

https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1561719517272690688

lmao

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God
Does anyone have any suggestions for good web serials or Kindle Unlimited books that feature crafting or running a (preferably fantastical) business heavily? I've recently been reading Blessed Time and there was one chapter where the protagonist decides since the crisis is over he's going to set up an enchanting shop before everything goes to hell, and it made me wish the story had actually covered the shop angle. There's nothing wrong with slaying dragons and saving the world but right now I'm in the mood for something a but less hectic.

I enjoyed that part of Magic-Smithing a lot, but it died and then died again. Something similar would be nice. Beware of Chicken kind of fits but isn't really what I'm looking for, since the "business" of it is more a running joke and note the focus. I also have Dao of the Deal on my list of stuff to read which might be similar.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dao of the Deal is OK. It's not very exciting or terribly original.

nrook
Jun 25, 2009

Just let yourself become a worthless person!
Tori Transmigrated is decent and very concerned with project management, if that’s what you’re looking for.

MonikaTSarn
May 23, 2005

You can try 'The Runesmith' - lots of crafting and a shop eventually - just be warned, the writing is kind of weird.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
I mean there's The Wandering Inn but I assume you're already aware of that.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


7c Nickel posted:

Wasn't there a thing where people made fun of a webserial using Evanescence as their example of incredible timeless music?

WE HAVE SUCH SIGHTS TO SHOW YOU

https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1561719517272690688

i told you folks that evanescence only needed like a few million spotify/itunes plays to reach the figures cited in re: trailer trash. i told you bro

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
I don't remember its title but a bad one I read (bad is similar to good, just worse) with heavy business running is the one where humanity introduces aliens to capitalism and it improves the quality of life in the whole universe and McDonalds franchises out to space and the story extolls the virtues of McDonalds' business model. So yeah I've forgotten the title but you should be able to recognize it by the fact that its last entry before going on hiatus was a full blown non chapter that was an essay about why Texas was REALLY freezing.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
re: whatever the new name is did nothing wrong

and evanescence will be popular far into the future if tamsyn muir is right

Wittgen
Oct 13, 2012

We have decided to decline your offer of a butt kicking.
I've heard a lot of good things about Legends and Lattes, which is about high level D&D adventurers retiring to run a coffee shop. It is just a book and not a web serial though.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Wittgen posted:

I've heard a lot of good things about Legends and Lattes, which is about high level D&D adventurers retiring to run a coffee shop. It is just a book and not a web serial though.

It's... Ok. It's supposed to be a slice of life, but nobody really has much character development. They just do things sometimes and it's mostly fairly low stakes.

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Bremen posted:

Does anyone have any suggestions for good web serials or Kindle Unlimited books that feature crafting or running a (preferably fantastical) business heavily? I've recently been reading Blessed Time and there was one chapter where the protagonist decides since the crisis is over he's going to set up an enchanting shop before everything goes to hell, and it made me wish the story had actually covered the shop angle. There's nothing wrong with slaying dragons and saving the world but right now I'm in the mood for something a but less hectic.

I enjoyed that part of Magic-Smithing a lot, but it died and then died again. Something similar would be nice. Beware of Chicken kind of fits but isn't really what I'm looking for, since the "business" of it is more a running joke and note the focus. I also have Dao of the Deal on my list of stuff to read which might be similar.

The traditional book series Recluce, starting with the The Magic of Recluce will probably suit you to a T. It's a bunch of books in the same world, so you could in theory jump in wherever. It has it's own unique, literally black and white magic system, but in most of the books the MC picks up a profession like carpenter or blacksmith and at least half the book is about that profession instead of whatever the back of the book claims. Your library is sure to have some of these.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/43753/wizard-space-program
A deeply nerdy story about trying to make the first rocket, only using magic instead of science. Written by a space nerd, it focuses much more on the physics of magic than business decisions, but it seems likely to be adjacent to what you want.

I think I've read every farming story on RR. In my opinion, the best two are Farming for Gold and Magriculture, and that is extremely faint praise. I hesitate to recommend them and certainly don't claim they're good. I'll start with the one that is still (maybe) ongoing: Magriculture (It updates a few times a month usually and hasn't updated in 47 days).

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/45827/magriculture-rewrite
Notionally a book about trying to make money by farming in an MMO. The story goes off-rails essentially immediately, and never gets back on them, but at least it stays on the farm and there aren't a lot of other options so I'm including it, dang it. Problem 1) the author is much more interested in the magic system than the farming, so the MC is a wizard who uses his magic almost exclusively for farming. 2) the MC is supposed to be trying to make RL money, but frequently ignores this goal in favor of wild mega-projects. Makes the story more entertaining and more frustrating. It would be better without the framing device of trying to make RL money I think.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/25454/farming-for-gold/chapter/372264/chapter-3
Farming for gold is a deeply spiteful wish-fulfillment story about how the MC is just so hard working and clever he gets to stomp on everyone else. It is actually focused on farming. The link I provided starts on chapter 3. The previous chapters and prologues make next to no sense and are mostly only relevant for establishing that a) the MC's life sucks and b) that the guild that "hired" him also sucks. Unless you enjoy reading about bad people making bad decisions for bad reasons, I recommend skipping to the chapter I linked. The farming and economic elements were interesting enough to keep me reading, but I honestly disliked almost every other element of the story, so, you know, reader beware.

RBA-Wintrow
Nov 4, 2009


Clapping Larry
Dungeon Item Shop
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/37333/dungeon-item-shop

Dungeon Item Shop is another transmigration story. The MC wishes to be happy and the patron "god" (more like an evil warlock patron from D&D) makes her dumb as a bag of bricks so she'll be happier. Ignorance is bliss and all that. Oh, and she gets a forbidden class that will get her executed if anyone finds out. Or, more likely, lynched.

She makes the best of it and makes a magic shop, until she and her friends have to leave town in a hurry, for inquisition related reasons. Her Patron has it's own plans and while it was hoping for a killer witch, it can work with a crafter/shopkeeper.

Lots of crafting and setting up and running a shop. But each book ends eventually in fleeing the city.

The writing is good, but the MC is insufferably dumb and cries over everything. Her companions are good though.
I'm halfway through its ~400 chapters. It looks completed.


RBA-Wintrow posted:

I've started reading The Newt & Demon.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/55927/the-newt-and-demon

It's only 24 chapters long so far. Updates every ~3 days.
Ignore the blurb and chapter 1. The sun exploded and the main character transmigrated to a fantasy world.

The story is about an alchemist doing alchemist things in a small village. In the style of Beware of Chicken.
A slow and chill story.



RBA-Wintrow fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Aug 24, 2022

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God
Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

nrook posted:

Tori Transmigrated is decent and very concerned with project management, if that’s what you’re looking for.

I read what was out a few months back. It's not quite what I'm looking for (the business aspect gets mostly glossed over), and it was kind of annoyingly slow paced, but I've been planning to catch back up. Might as well bump it up the list.

MonikaTSarn posted:

You can try 'The Runesmith' - lots of crafting and a shop eventually - just be warned, the writing is kind of weird.

I'll add it to the list.

Cicero posted:

I mean there's The Wandering Inn but I assume you're already aware of that.

Yep, and I'm in the minority of the thread that doesn't really care for it.

Argue posted:

I don't remember its title but a bad one I read (bad is similar to good, just worse) with heavy business running is the one where humanity introduces aliens to capitalism and it improves the quality of life in the whole universe and McDonalds franchises out to space and the story extolls the virtues of McDonalds' business model. So yeah I've forgotten the title but you should be able to recognize it by the fact that its last entry before going on hiatus was a full blown non chapter that was an essay about why Texas was REALLY freezing.

Don't worry about remembering the name on this one because the politics already scared me off.

Wittgen posted:

I've heard a lot of good things about Legends and Lattes, which is about high level D&D adventurers retiring to run a coffee shop. It is just a book and not a web serial though.

I actually had a friend recommend this to me but the impression I had was it was mostly lesbian romance (I have nothing against that, but it's not really one of my interests for reading). Might as well give it a second look.

LLSix posted:

(stories)

Thanks, I'll give these a shot. You don't exactly hard sell any of them but let's be honest, this is the webserial thread, I'd be deeply skeptical of anyone presenting a story as flawless.

RBA-Wintrow posted:

Dungeon Item Shop
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/37333/dungeon-item-shop

Dungeon Item Shop is another transmigration story. The MC wishes to be happy and the patron "god" (more like an evil warlock patron from D&D) makes her dumb as a bag of bricks so she'll be happier. Ignorance is bliss and all that. Oh, and she gets a forbidden class that will get her executed if anyone finds out. Or, more likely, lynched.

She makes the best of it and makes a magic shop, until she and her friends have to leave town in a hurry, for inquisition related reasons. Her Patron has it's own plans and while it was hoping for a killer witch, it can work with a crafter/shopkeeper.

Lots of crafting and setting up and running a shop. But each book ends eventually in fleeing the city.

The writing is good, but the MC is insufferably dumb and cries over everything. Her companions are good though.
I'm halfway through its ~400 chapters. It looks completed.

This sounds like exactly what I was looking for but I'm a bit scared off by the stupid protagonist part - I'm deeply frustrated by MCs that repeatedly make bad decisions. This is the main reason I repeatedly dropped TWI as mentioned above. Still, I'll give it a shot - I did manage to make it through Worm, after all.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

quote:

The fire was mostly desaltery as most were focused on the horde of green warriors charging at the city.
why would you even use the word "desultory" if you don't know how to spell it

but also I'm gonna go take the sea water to the desaltery to end up with fresh water lol

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Latest LSIS Pateron chapter's taken a turn for the gonzo :laugh:

Party buses? Groupies? Illegal casinos? In my xianxia??

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

KOGAHAZAN!! posted:

Latest LSIS Pateron chapter's taken a turn for the gonzo :laugh:

Party buses? Groupies? Illegal casinos? In my xianxia??

Lol. This is awesome. I love last ship in Suzhou.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

My only regret is that Alice isn't here for this :pray:

day-gas
Dec 16, 2020

Very glad Lungs started writing again, after the long break I was worried they had lost inspiration in the story. Last Ship feels very personal in some ways, I wonder how much it takes out of them to write.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Outcast patreon: Was pretty surprised when Rob murked Vevrandi (or whatever her name was) without it ever being clear if she was even attacking him (and with it being possible she was trying to do the opposite). Probably the most morally difficult thing he's done so far.

One thing that's bugged me a little throughout this sequence is that I don't think it makes sense for the dwarf gun-users to be as effective as they've been, especially inside a building. The idea that the party members are (mostly) vulnerable to bullets and can't dodge them makes perfect sense, but they should be capable of killing ~30 people extremely fast in those circumstances and it's not really plausible that normal people could hit extremely fast-moving opponents with rifles that can only shoot roughly once per second. It should take less than 1-2 seconds for one of the party members to place themselves in the midst of the enemy dwarves, and it'd basically be impossible to hit a superhumanly-fast target with a slow-firing rifle in those circumstances. The combat as described would make much more sense if the dwarves were using fully automatic weapons (and if you're giving them a nuke, you might as well give them somewhat better guns).

In different circumstances, like the dwarves being in an open field with a couple hundred meters between them and the party, it would make more sense (though even then it seems like Malika could easily mess them up with magic for long enough that Rob or whoever could reach them).

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Aug 25, 2022

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

This webcomic, Omniscient Reader takes a bit to get going, but it has some real good moments. I just got to episode 16 where the protagonist is given a quest to eliminate some thugs because "they're interfering with the pace of the story."

Uh... the series is not as meta as that makes it seem, what's happening is, but explaining why is a mild, early spoiler so: It's a story where the apocalypse is a reality TV show (similar to Dungeon Crawler Carl) and the people watching got annoyed and gave him a quest to make some small time thugs go away.

SerSpook
Feb 13, 2012




Bremen posted:

Ok, after reading what happened with The Nameless Mage I have to withdraw every comment I ever made about authors prolifically writing lesbians while avoiding the faintest whisper of gay men. They're (sadly) entirely justified in avoiding the latter over fear of harassment and review bombing.

This conversation is pretty old now, but I figured I'd put in my perspective a bit because why the hell not.

I started a quest over on Sufficient Velocity back in June. It's been coming along alright, closing in on 70k words right now with a gradually building readership. SV is a mostly friendly site to queer representation but it has a similar issue regarding gay and bi men as protagonists and even just characters (not really in terms of hate, but in terms of it just being... not there, mostly). It might have gotten better lately, I don't read as much as I used to there?

I had a lot of trepidation over confirming a character as a gay dude, especially when a couple people had begun shipping him with the female protagonist. I put a lot of my own personal reflection and experience into the character, so I guess I was pretty worried, but it worked out fine. No complaints, I think I had a momentary decline in watchers that pretty quickly picked back up. But I can definitely confirm that, not even making them a protagonist, I had to really consider on pulling the trigger of confirming the dude was gay.

Now I'm just gonna see the reaction to the protagonist being an asexual woman lmao

Mr. Prokosch
Feb 14, 2012

Behold My Magnificence!
Probably no reaction at all besides a shrug. Asexuality has huge representation as just the "I don't want to write about romance" default. Some people really like romantic subplots or implications to the point where that's why they read ("the shippers"), but there's also a big crowd that becomes uncomfortable with sexuality, especially in something semi-public and collaborative.

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SerSpook
Feb 13, 2012




Mr. Prokosch posted:

Probably no reaction at all besides a shrug. Asexuality has huge representation as just the "I don't want to write about romance" default. Some people really like romantic subplots or implications to the point where that's why they read ("the shippers"), but there's also a big crowd that becomes uncomfortable with sexuality, especially in something semi-public and collaborative.

I don't entirely think those are the same thing but this probably isn't the place to really debate it.

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