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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/RobertSkvarla/status/1561712356354301955
https://twitter.com/RobertSkvarla/status/1561712369457414147
https://twitter.com/donaldp1917/status/1556066041620488199

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

skipmyseashells posted:

you finally said something smart in the first sentence then ruined it by defending your loser sex pest cult hero right after

I’ve also seen patsocs online and I’m not afraid of pudgy white men from America, Italy or west Germany. especially since you types only prey and pick on weaker people

Lol. Full on internet tough guy.



Fortaleza posted:

Abe Simpson was a LaRouche voter

A good man.


BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

lol that wasn't an "if"

as larouche is dead so why are you using the present tense

Yeah forgot to change that. I think that La Rouche was just deeply too unwell to turn his organization into something that could become a threat to the feds and the feds generally left it alone except when it turned out they were going full moonie with databases on enemies to compromise with dirt.

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
it’s not internet tough guy when you look at a group of proud boys and say ‘wow those guys are nasty and pathetic’ it’s the same deal here

even worse when you try joking about a borderline rapist groomer who needs to spank teens

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
the most intersectional thing maupin has done in his life was basing his cult off of the hit single ‘holiday inn’ by chingy

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Crowsbeak posted:

Dugin regularly does events in China with communist party members
he did some events with zhang weiwei but he isn't the only academic who has ever done events with chinese communist party members. chinese also have different points of view

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

he did some events with zhang weiwei but he isn't the only academic who has ever done events with chinese communist party members. chinese also have different points of view

I would say that Norton though is at best very ignorant about Dugin. If not deliberately lying. Also lol @skipmyseashells look just get a domimatrix or go to a shrink.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Crowsbeak posted:

I would say that Norton though is at best very ignorant about Dugin. If not deliberately lying. Also lol @skipmyseashells look just get a domimatrix or go to a shrink.
well he's right that dugin is a fringe figure. it's funny, there's another one of these conservative "communist" groups in russia called essence of time (that russell bentley is involved in) that calls dugin a fascist figure, which makes the tendency of some western weirdos to make dugin the hill to die on somewhat strange.

quote:

Dugin is increasingly highlighting his true occult-fascist content, which for 20 years he has been trying to hide behind the masks of a philosopher, an analyst, or, as in the last six months, an anti-fascist patriot

https://rossaprimavera.ru/article/okkultnyy-fashist-dugin-pytaetsya-opravdyvatsya
essence of time are also into classical music and avant-garde theatre. not sure about verdi tuning though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okvup7lF1wg

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Wait Crowsbeak is a LaRouchite?

Also the fact that a bunch of idiots think that Dugin is Putin's "court mystic" doesn't mean that Dugin is actually an anti-imperialist leftist :psyduck:

the white hand
Nov 12, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
lmao the wasted potential of lyndon larouche

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

I prefer La Bouche

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViP87WipSm0

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Ytlaya posted:

Wait Crowsbeak is a LaRouchite?

Also the fact that a bunch of idiots think that Dugin is Putin's "court mystic" doesn't mean that Dugin is actually an anti-imperialist leftist :psyduck:

Yes. Listen to House music in the Verdi pitch is a excellent choice.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Pablo Nergigante posted:

I prefer La Bouche
le rouche m'lady

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991


a good start

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

Ytlaya posted:

Wait Crowsbeak is a LaRouchite?

Also the fact that a bunch of idiots think that Dugin is Putin's "court mystic" doesn't mean that Dugin is actually an anti-imperialist leftist :psyduck:

I'm laughing imagining these chuckleheads praising George Lincoln Rockwell as an anti-imperialist hero because of the time he reached out to Nation of Islam.


Black Hammer members pretty much came from the exact same sort of backgrounds. Upper middle class or petit bourgeois kids, white kids & Asian kids adopted by well-to-do white parents specifically. People who might have sympathies for left wing causes and ideology, but who have only barely done the reading and have no real world experience with labor or poverty to temper their expectations. That's perfect clay to be molded by charismatics like LaRouche or Gazi, and their access to money makes them juicy marks.

Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 00:17 on Aug 24, 2022

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

By the way, Crowsbeak, this is where cynical "pragmatism" and patriotic socialism gets you.

https://twitter.com/CarlBeijer/status/1562234989298720768?s=20&t=eNQlgs_OBdaU4SDAMHGVBA

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

By the way, Crowsbeak, this is where cynical "pragmatism" and patriotic socialism gets you.
it's funny these guys also like to say how fascism will come from DSA members while the extent of their prior history on the left is, like... going to some DSA meetings

i mean, same, but people go in different directions

https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1045146507341688832

AloePieceOfShit
Jan 26, 2020
I think the Hinkle thing is less patriotic socialism and more the cynical pragmatism. Given the Tate tweet posted earlier in the thread, Hinkle seems purely about advancing himself.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

AloePieceOfShit posted:

I think the Hinkle thing is less patriotic socialism and more the cynical pragmatism. Given the Tate tweet posted earlier in the thread, Hinkle seems purely about advancing himself.

That's what being a PatSoc is all about.

AloePieceOfShit
Jan 26, 2020

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

That's what being a PatSoc is all about.

I won't condemn it to being purely grift. I think the bigger thing is some aspect of US culture, given how various forms of leftism have been used as cover for self advancement (see AOC or hasan piker Patrisse Cullors).

AloePieceOfShit has issued a correction as of 05:47 on Aug 24, 2022

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

AloePieceOfShit posted:

I won't condemn it to being purely grift. I think the bigger thing is some aspect of US culture, given how various forms of leftism have been used as cover for self advancement (see AOC or hasan piker Patrisse Cullors).

It's an explicitly self-serving stance to argue that we need to be "patriotic socialists" in the imperial core, like labor aristocrats were all going to jump on the CPI bandwagon because they waved the flag.

Anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ1sk4yo7qg

I don't expect anyone to watch this 2 hour stream because I sure as Hell won't, but the first 15 minutes are enough to see where it's going. Haz is real shook up by Dukina's assassination and the reaction to it, and now he's declaring that all "leftists" want to kill "us." He's also saying that they need to stop engaging with leftists online like they're going to, what, cloister themselves into their own bubble? Do they think the average American even knows who Dugin is? This poo poo is spinning out of control insanely fast, and it's going to waste a lot of time having to re-educate people who buy into this garbage.

I don't even get who they think they're trying to reach out to anymore. If this split in the online left is going to be over Dugin how can they claim to even be patriotic socialists? Dugin is the based anti-imperialist anti-American Eurasianist thought leader. Whatever else you can say about him he's explicitly anti-American. Who the Hell is any of this even for?

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

i think it's a waste of time to even try to reeducate or rehabilitate people who've gone all-in on this garbage. they have a parasite in their brain and we do not yet have the technology to extract it safely

fortunately there is no downside to this since they will never go outside or commit to any real-world political work

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

Yeah I think it's safe to say they're rightist NazBols even if they don't know it. Calling them Hitlerites doesn't even fit, because they wouldn't recognize a Hitler if they see one.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
what's a "patsoc"?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

R. Guyovich posted:

i think it's a waste of time to even try to reeducate or rehabilitate people who've gone all-in on this garbage. they have a parasite in their brain and we do not yet have the technology to extract it safely

fortunately there is no downside to this since they will never go outside or commit to any real-world political work

Yes if you are defending the terrorist actions of the Nazi Ukrainian government like Norton is doing you do have a parasite in your Brain. I am happy Max ended his relationship with the person.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Truga posted:

what's a "patsoc"?

It’s a term the very normal people here who side with Ukrainian terrorist state and post crypto dem poo poo, and insinuate that you’re bad for spreading anti imperialism on mainstream shows (a very normal very smart position to hold) have for “person who doesn’t toe our line”.

Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 14:48 on Aug 24, 2022

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


C-Spam, notably a pro-ukraine forum

It's hilarious to see this "throw poo poo at the wall" tactic outside of Haz and Maupin really

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Not So Fast posted:

C-Spam, notably a pro-ukraine forum

It's hilarious to see this "throw poo poo at the wall" tactic outside of Haz and Maupin really

So we now like Max Blumenthal again right?

Speaking of…
https://mobile.twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1562138858019557377

Hmmm seems like unlike the parasite Ben he is going to not be supporting the murder of a philosophers daughter. Oh and he also has the based Aaron Maate on (wish he could also have Katie Halper and Matt Taibbi).

Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 14:49 on Aug 24, 2022

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Crowsbeak posted:

So we now like Max Blumenthal again right?

Speaking of…
https://mobile.twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1562138858019557377

Hmmm seems like unlike the parasite Ben he is going to not be supporting the murder of a philosophers daughter. Oh and he also has the based Aaron Maate on (wish he could also have Jatie Halper and Matt Taibbi).

Who gives a gently caress about any of this

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Crowsbeak posted:

Hmmm seems like unlike the parasite Ben he is going to not be supporting the murder of a philosophers daughter. Oh and he also has the based Aaron Maate on (wish he could also have Jatie Halper and Matt Taibbi).

Why do you post like this

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

The joker, but instead of comedy shows, he's into online streams.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Maximum Blumenthal

Ben Norton Anti-Virus

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

belp jorton

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

genericnick posted:

Who gives a gently caress about any of this

It’s the Grayzone thread.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

pumping my fist when a guy i call based appears on the livestream

the white hand
Nov 12, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Not So Fast posted:

C-Spam, notably a pro-ukraine forum

It's hilarious to see this "throw poo poo at the wall" tactic outside of Haz and Maupin really

the streaming left is a degrading force

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

R. Guyovich posted:

pumping my fist when a guy i call based appears on the livestream

Indeed. True anti imperialists are based.

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's an explicitly self-serving stance to argue that we need to be "patriotic socialists" in the imperial core, like labor aristocrats were all going to jump on the CPI bandwagon because they waved the flag.

Anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ1sk4yo7qg

I don't expect anyone to watch this 2 hour stream because I sure as Hell won't, but the first 15 minutes are enough to see where it's going. Haz is real shook up by Dukina's assassination and the reaction to it, and now he's declaring that all "leftists" want to kill "us." He's also saying that they need to stop engaging with leftists online like they're going to, what, cloister themselves into their own bubble? Do they think the average American even knows who Dugin is? This poo poo is spinning out of control insanely fast, and it's going to waste a lot of time having to re-educate people who buy into this garbage.

I don't even get who they think they're trying to reach out to anymore. If this split in the online left is going to be over Dugin how can they claim to even be patriotic socialists? Dugin is the based anti-imperialist anti-American Eurasianist thought leader. Whatever else you can say about him he's explicitly anti-American. Who the Hell is any of this even for?

We wouldn’t be having this problem with the “online left” (lol) if the Dugin daughter wasn’t hot. The only thing that girl had going for her was boobs

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/ineffable_x/status/1562366939929911296

MLSM posted:

We wouldn’t be having this problem with the “online left” (lol) if the Dugin daughter wasn’t hot. The only thing that girl had going for her was boobs

Darya "Double D" Dugin

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

MLSM posted:

We wouldn’t be having this problem with the “online left” (lol) if the Dugin daughter wasn’t hot. The only thing that girl had going for her was boobs

Ah. “You only oppose assassination of hot people by the Nazi cia backed Kiev regime”.

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skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020

R. Guyovich posted:

pumping my fist when a guy i call based appears on the livestream

patsocs can’t used based cause lil b hates america

https://twitter.com/lilbthebasedgod/status/914831106863747072?s=21&t=PttTBSlOzekFHOsWuV5u6g

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