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Automata 10 Pack posted:If you had the magic power to force Fox News to rebrand why wouldn’t you just use that power to take them off the air? I've always wondered whether the anchors are all true believers. I have no doubts about the likes of Hannity and Carlson, but are people like Harris Faulkner and Kennedy also that nuts? S.E. Cupp and Alisyn Camerota left and seem much happier in their new gigs. If you somehow bought the network and very obviously changed the editorial slant, how many of them would leave and how many of them would just roll with it to keep collecting a nice paycheck?
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https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1562442401150828550?t=sTkJIoo8N4e5uueBGoDj6g&s=19 Bedroom too? Not a good look.
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Mirotic posted:https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1562442401150828550?t=sTkJIoo8N4e5uueBGoDj6g&s=19 Thermonuclear wank material.
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Mirotic posted:https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1562442401150828550?t=sTkJIoo8N4e5uueBGoDj6g&s=19 Jerk off instructions (for how to build a bomb)
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Aug 24, 2022 15:43
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Jerk off instructions (for how to build a bomb) When you run out of pornstars, a dude sometime has to enrich his own uranium.
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Automata 10 Pack posted:If you had the magic power to force Fox News to rebrand why wouldn’t you just use that power to take them off the air? "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw cable news forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."
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Thinking that Fox News changing their advertised category from “News” to “<Some Parallel Adjective> Entertainment” would be some sort of solution is pretty uh, liberal brained imo. A ton of conservatives have literal comedians dictating their thoughts. I think you’d find better results in concluding that Fox News should be deplatformed and working backwards from that. Which people do, and find success in it, and would be more successful with our support than to pursue the idea of making Fox News look less aesthetically legitimate towards the left. Eric Cantonese posted:I've always wondered whether the anchors are all true believers. I have no doubts about the likes of Hannity and Carlson, but are people like Harris Faulkner and Kennedy also that nuts? S.E. Cupp and Alisyn Camerota left and seem much happier in their new gigs. If you somehow bought the network and very obviously changed the editorial slant, how many of them would leave and how many of them would just roll with it to keep collecting a nice paycheck? Automata 10 Pack fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Aug 24, 2022 |
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Aug 24, 2022 16:14
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Personally, for maximum effect, I would copy the USDA rulesets that prohibit faux chicken wing products not made with wing meat from being labeled as wings, forcing them to use the name "wyngz" Fox Nywze
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Aug 24, 2022 16:21
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Jaxyon posted:What does it matter? He's not in jail and likely won't ever be. Do you want people to stop talking about it or something? I'm really not sure what you're getting at here. Jaxyon posted:Mock his lawyers all you want. Thanks, I think I will!
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Aug 24, 2022 16:33
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Eric Cantonese posted:I've always wondered whether the anchors are all true believers. I have no doubts about the likes of Hannity and Carlson, but are people like Harris Faulkner and Kennedy also that nuts? S.E. Cupp and Alisyn Camerota left and seem much happier in their new gigs. If you somehow bought the network and very obviously changed the editorial slant, how many of them would leave and how many of them would just roll with it to keep collecting a nice paycheck? I'm not sure that Carlson is a genuine true believer, largely as I have a hard time believing Carlson has any principles at all other than crass self promotion/enrichment and the infliction of cruelty. The GOP as it exists right now allows him to fulfill both those existential desires, but if they started failing to due so substantially I could see him turning on them/jumping ship (if the money was also good enough).
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I'm not sure that Carlson is a genuine true believer, largely as I have a hard time believing Carlson has any principles at all other than crass self promotion/enrichment and the infliction of cruelty. The GOP as it exists right now allows him to fulfill both those existential desires, but if they started failing to due so substantially I could see him turning on them/jumping ship (if the money was also good enough). Tucker is an extremely racist person and I would guess probably insanely insufferable to be around in person, but probably not a true believer. He knows he's peddling bullshit. I would bet that most people at the top like Alex Jones and Tucker and Prager are fully aware they are snake oil salesmen. The true believers are the also-and types, the guys taking their beats from the above guys and the other really big names. The local AM radio guys are fully bought into it, for example, like those radio hosts that refused to vaccinate, got covid, and died.
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Eric Cantonese posted:I've always wondered whether the anchors are all true believers. I have no doubts about the likes of Hannity and Carlson, but are people like Harris Faulkner and Kennedy also that nuts? S.E. Cupp and Alisyn Camerota left and seem much happier in their new gigs. If you somehow bought the network and very obviously changed the editorial slant, how many of them would leave and how many of them would just roll with it to keep collecting a nice paycheck? Turns out a lot of former MTV personalities have some hard libertarian values. This may or may not fall in with the cynicism of corporate pop/rock music industry but the mental gymnastics to believe Ayn Rand and John Gault are Rock 'n' Roll™, but mental gymnastics are par for the course these days.
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It's probably safe to assume everybody rich and affluent are a bunch of pyramidheads and look at the idea of flattening the hierarchy with disgust.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I'm not sure that Carlson is a genuine true believer, largely as I have a hard time believing Carlson has any principles at all other than crass self promotion/enrichment and the infliction of cruelty. The GOP as it exists right now allows him to fulfill both those existential desires, but if they started failing to due so substantially I could see him turning on them/jumping ship (if the money was also good enough). i think much like trump he believes his own bullshit to a degree because of spite/bigotry/insecurity and the rest is a mix of grift. also just being an incurious douche.
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Aug 24, 2022 19:19
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Ynglaur posted:I wish we could force Fox to rename their channel. They're not a news channel. They're a channel full of talking heads who argue via assertion. There's no actual reporting, no analysis, no thinking. It's just buzzword-laden anger and people saying what they want to be true. Fox would have no problem arguing in court that they're a journalistic outfit like any other. Not when basically every newspaper has, and has always had, an "Opinion" or "Editorials" section. Fox runs straightforward reporting on the news during the day, marquee name talking head opinion shows at night. It's the same basic format as CNN and MSNBC, even if their opining is more often based in fact than FNN.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i think much like trump he believes his own bullshit to a degree because of spite/bigotry/insecurity and the rest is a mix of grift. also just being an incurious douche. I think that's a difference of degree between the two, as with Trump it's clear he wholeheartedly believes whatever he's saying for as long as he's saying it, then either maintains that belief or entirely rejects every having said/believed it as is convenient to the moment while simultaneously doublethinking himself into genuinely believing he never deviated from whatever the current moment requires, whereas Tucker is just barely sentient enough to feel a twinge from the desiccated husk that once was his conscience that signals what for non-psychopaths often grows into cognitive dissonance; you can see this from time to time when his makes that "uh oh, that fart might've just called for backup" face of his when one of his interviews goes sideways on him.
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Automatic Slim posted:Turns out a lot of former MTV personalities have some hard libertarian values. This may or may not fall in with the cynicism of corporate pop/rock music industry but the mental gymnastics to believe Ayn Rand and John Gault are Rock 'n' Roll™, but mental gymnastics are par for the course these days. "Conservatism is the new Punk Rock" is something that has been said unironically by various right-wing talking heads
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Angry_Ed posted:"Conservatism is the new Punk Rock" is something that has been said unironically by various right-wing talking heads Ah yes, punk rock... well known to be non-critical of the System and the Man.
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Class3KillStorm posted:Ah yes, punk rock... well known to be non-critical of the System and the Man. Rand Paul was a big Rage Against the Machine fan. Fans of their music regularly act shocked when Tom Morello says something leftist. People often don't actually listen to music they like.
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Jaxyon posted:Rand Paul was a big Rage Against the Machine fan. Fans of their music regularly act shocked when Tom Morello says something leftist. Paul Ryan
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Levitate posted:Paul Ryan Yeah my mistake. gently caress them both.
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Jaxyon posted:Rand Paul was a big Rage Against the Machine fan. Fans of their music regularly act shocked when Tom Morello says something leftist. See: all the people who think "Born in the USA" is a patriotic song.
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Or that time a chud suddenly realized Social D has social and political commentary in their music, got mouthy about it, and then Mike Ness jumped off stage and hosed his poo poo up.
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Jaxyon posted:Rand Paul was a big Rage Against the Machine fan. Fans of their music regularly act shocked when Tom Morello says something leftist. "I can't believe this this guitarist that's wearing a Che Guevara shirt is a leftist!"
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Charliegrs posted:"I can't believe this this guitarist that's wearing a Che Guevara shirt is a leftist!" They hear gently caress you I won't do what you tell me and think me as a white person need this philosophy in my life, as I as a affluent white person have been far too restricted in my life.
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Fuschia tude posted:Fox would have no problem arguing in court that they're a journalistic outfit like any other. Not when basically every newspaper has, and has always had, an "Opinion" or "Editorials" section. Someone awhile back posted a timeline of when the talking-head-opinion shows used to come on versus where it is now. Let's take today. Times are EDT: 3pm Martha MacCallum 4pm Neil Cavuto 5pm "The Five" 6pm Bret Baier 7pm Jesse Watters 8pm Tucker Carlson 9pm Hannity 10pm Ingraham 11pm Gutfeld Which of those people is an actual journalist and not merely an opinion writer? Nevermind, too, that their "opinion people" don't actually make arguments, they make assertions.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:See: all the people who think "Born in the USA" is a patriotic song. It is deeply patriotic. You don’t write that song without a strong concern for and with America. It’s not nationalistic, which the right conflates with patriotism.
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Eric Cantonese posted:I've always wondered whether the anchors are all true believers. I have no doubts about the likes of Hannity and Carlson, but are people like Harris Faulkner and Kennedy also that nuts? S.E. Cupp and Alisyn Camerota left and seem much happier in their new gigs. If you somehow bought the network and very obviously changed the editorial slant, how many of them would leave and how many of them would just roll with it to keep collecting a nice paycheck?
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Angry_Ed posted:"Conservatism is the new Punk Rock" is something that has been said unironically by various right-wing talking heads A lot of Gen-Xers do see Republicans as rebellious because their biggest political concerns is the “Woke mob” (ie teenagers that annoy them on twitter.) they are the dumbest loving generation.
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Automata 10 Pack posted:A lot of Gen-Xers do see Republicans as rebellious because their biggest political concerns is the “Woke mob” (ie teenagers that annoy them on twitter.) they are the dumbest loving generation. WTF are you talking about -A Gen-Xer
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kiimo posted:WTF are you talking about Hard truth to swallow but it seems to be true. Our generational compatriots seem to be voting candidates with views to the right. Rock the Vote everybody. Arsenic Lupin posted:See: all the people who think "Born in the USA" is a patriotic song. See also the religious who don’t read the Bible and the patriotic who’ve never read the Constitution.
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Automatic Slim posted:See also the religious who don’t read the Bible and the patriotic who’ve never read the Constitution.
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Automatic Slim posted:Hard truth to swallow but it seems to be true. Our generational compatriots seem to be voting candidates with views to the right. Another Gen-Xer here. For every cool kid I grew up with who just wanted to be accepting and chill out listening to Soundgarden there were at least three (usually violently homophobic) proto-chuds who I've no doubt absorbed all the bullshit our boomer parents were spewing, either sincerely or from the laughably mistaken belief that that would make our elders open the door for comparable prosperity in the future.
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Automatic Slim posted:Hard truth to swallow but it seems to be true. Our generational compatriots seem to be voting candidates with views to the right. UK/NZ goon here, and my gen-X parents are diehard tories and think I'm a weirdo for voting for anyone other than the local Leopards Eating Faces party. The boomer brain poison leak is real. They also both love Thatcher 
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Gen X had a tiny window of being cool and open minded in the early/mid 90s and then a big chunk of them got into Limp Bizkit.
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I believe Gen X's conservatism works on a sliding scale (to the extent Gen X is really a thing). The older you are, the more you probably were raised on the myth of St. Ronald Reagan and Our Holy Mother Margaret Thatcher who got us out of 70s stagflation. The closer you get to the 1980 birthdate cutoff, the more liberal they get. And Gen X is still more liberal than the Boomers and Silents. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/03/01/the-generation-gap-in-american-politics/ https://fair.org/home/politico-paints-gen-x-as-trumpiest-generation-on-flimsiest-evidence/ Smeef posted:Gen X had a tiny window of being cool and open minded in the early/mid 90s and then a big chunk of them got into Limp Bizkit. We had DJ Shadow, though.
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Smeef posted:Gen X had a tiny window of being cool and open minded in the early/mid 90s and then a big chunk of them got into Limp Bizkit. there is room in my selfish millenial heart to appreciate some of those hard hittin riffs
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Automatic Slim posted:Hard truth to swallow but it seems to be true. Our generational compatriots seem to be voting candidates with views to the right. As a Gen-Xer, my fellow high school and college friends seem to have a disproportionate amount of libertarians and centrists who adopted their political views from South Park.
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