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Mozi posted:ok sorry that was just a joke I can see why the frogs are turning gay, yowza. 
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Does anyone know if the show cause hearings tomorrow are going to be streamed?
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Mozi posted:ok sorry that was just a joke It is Wednesday my dudes
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So what's the current schedule for the CT goings on? I remember hearing about jury selection like a week ago but nothing really since.
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https://twitter.com/_frankigraziano/status/1562810857238646784 Boo. Pattis is pleading the 5th.
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SlurredSpeech609 posted:https://twitter.com/_frankigraziano/status/1562810857238646784 That's an early sign that this is going to be hilarious If you ask someone why they mishandled files so badly and their response is "I'm exercising my right to not implicate myself in criminal conduct", you know it wasn't just a simple whoopsie
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Aug 25, 2022 15:55
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Really pushing for never being allowed to handle secure documents ever again.
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Main Paineframe posted:That's an early sign that this is going to be hilarious That's not going to help Jones, if anything it makes it look like Jones requested this.
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Aug 25, 2022 16:33
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pixaal posted:That's not going to help Jones, if anything it makes it look like Jones requested this. I think he’s trying to help himself at this point, not jones
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Aug 25, 2022 16:45
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the yeti posted:I think he’s trying to help himself at this point, not jones I'm aware, but this thread is about Alex Jones, it's funny that defending himself will likely hurt Jones.
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Aug 25, 2022 16:46
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Reynal is going for it though https://twitter.com/ChristineDeRos7/status/1562826050341523457
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A true believer I guess. Bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it works for him.
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Piell posted:Reynal is going for it though Pleading the 5th during a disciplinary hearing seems to be something you would want to avoid if possible
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An interview with Mark Bankston just dropped on the Law&Crime Network: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI_xOXVt8qI E: He says that the 2 jurors who did not sign on to the compensatory damages thought the total should be higher. Also some Jones fans sent CSAM to him and the judge. Squatch Ambassador fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Aug 25, 2022 |
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I've lost track of this clown car wreck. Can someone sum up what's been going on? Is AJ going to jail for purgery?
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Aug 25, 2022 18:38
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You can go to the 11 minute mark of the interview linked above for purgery talk from Bankston but essentially, yes they are pursuing it but "it's a difficult thing to prosecute"
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News story covering the first part of the show cause hearing (they took a break that just ended).quote:The trail of the files, which were stored in a folder called “CT Sandy Hook offload,” goes from Pattis to a Texas bankruptcy attorney, and then to Andino Reynal, whom Jones hired as a defense attorney in the Texas lawsuits. Edit: it's back on and not going well for Reynal https://twitter.com/_frankigraziano/status/1562883026551709697 https://twitter.com/_frankigraziano/status/1562884001928396800 Piell fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Aug 25, 2022 |
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Hungry Computer posted:An interview with Mark Bankston just dropped on the Law&Crime Network: What is SCAM? Piell posted:https://twitter.com/_frankigraziano/status/1562883026551709697 Lol
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ilmucche posted:What is SCAM? I assume he meant CSAM. (child sex abuse material)
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yeah, it was a typo
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Aug 25, 2022 21:13
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Hungry Computer posted:yeah, it was a typo Somehow I knew that's what you were referring to as well because that's just the type of poo poo the far right does
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MEIN RAVEN posted:Somehow I knew that's what you were referring to as well because that's just the type of poo poo the far right does Super cool that people are employing this incredibly reprehensible stuff to attack others in an effort to get them swatted or raided because the giant beet they worship is going to face consequences.
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B-Rock452 posted:I assume he meant CSAM. (child sex abuse material) at least it wasn't CSPAM, brrrr
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⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ I wouldn't wish CSPAM on anyone. pixaal posted:That's not going to help Jones, if anything it makes it look like Jones requested this. This is good for Agents are GO! fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Aug 25, 2022 |
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Mr. Merdle posted:Super cool that people are employing this incredibly reprehensible stuff to attack others in an effort to get them swatted or raided because the giant beet they worship is going to face consequences. Oh, but it's just a joke man. CSAM is funny. If you can't laugh at that you're a square and a libtard, you know? * *Not actually what I think please don't ban me
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MEIN RAVEN posted:Oh, but it's just a joke man. CSPAM is funny. If you can't laugh at that you're a square and a libtard, you know? *
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SlurredSpeech609 posted:Boo. Pattis is pleading the 5th. - Pattis gets access to confidential files in discovery and is covered by a court order controlling how he can disclose them - It seems like Reynal might join that case (in which case he would have legitimate access and be covered by those orders) - Pattis sends Reynal the files even though Reynal hasn't actually joined yet - Ultimately, Reynal never joins - Reynal distributes the files to others Pattis distributed stuff in violation of the order, Reynal is a random 3rd party (he was never supposed to have access to begin with). He has a general ethical obligation to fix it if he notices he got something improperly (like Bankston did), but he can also argue "Pattis sent me a bunch of prep stuff, but then I didn't join the case so I never looked into what exactly it was. I assumed that nothing he sent at that point in time was confidential"
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Foxfire_ posted:he can also argue "Pattis sent me a bunch of prep stuff, but then I didn't join the case so I never looked into what exactly it was. I assumed that nothing he sent at that point in time was confidential" As someone who deals with data retention it seems kinda wild that in this situation you don’t immediately destroy what material you have since you have no immediate use for it anymore. Maybe competent lawyers do that?
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the yeti posted:As someone who deals with data retention it seems kinda wild that in this situation you don’t immediately destroy what material you have since you have no immediate use for it anymore. Yes.
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If this was a normal case and Alex/Reynal weren't being such gigantic shitheads, would "please disregard" have been enough for Mark to not use the files out of professional courtesy?
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Your Gay Uncle posted:If this was a normal case and Alex/Reynal weren't being such gigantic shitheads, would "please disregard" have been enough for Mark to not use the files out of professional courtesy? Bankston has said that if Reynal wasn't being such a dick the judge probably wouldn't have let it go ahead.
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Yeah, it’s very possible. Too bad (for him and his client) Reynal acted like a stupid rear end in a top hat the whole time.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:If this was a normal case and Alex/Reynal weren't being such gigantic shitheads, would "please disregard" have been enough for Mark to not use the files out of professional courtesy? NAL, but the data included stuff that should have been turned over earlier, so I don't think any lawyer would "please disregard" anything they ought to have.
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Foxfire_ posted:That makes sense to me because it seems like he's in more potential trouble: The odder part of Reynal's whole story so far is he's claiming he was given a white hard drive without knowing the contents, then somehow it came into his law office and got put onto dropbox with a share link that then got send to opposing counsel. Are any devices that goes near his office getting copied onto dropbox with no one inside knowing what the contents are? How sure are we that this hard drive was the only copy Pattis made? We're trusting the bankruptcy lawyer as an intermediary, but this whole story just makes it look worse for anyone barred.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:If this was a normal case and Alex/Reynal weren't being such gigantic shitheads, would "please disregard" have been enough for Mark to not use the files out of professional courtesy? In general, from what I understand, yes. From what I understand of the timeline, Reynal sent the files, was informed that he sent the wrong files, said "Can you pwetty pwease dewete the files uwu", and then proceeded to act like a complete douchbag to Mark in court, complete with swearing and offensive gestures, and to to top it off, never even tried sending a figleaf cover of "here's a link to some related materials so you have no reason to keep the other files". That to me is the most damning part of the whole thing. It would be one thing if Reynal was acting like a dick in court but cooperating with Mark behind the scenes, because Alex Jones probably expects his lawyers to be loud and bombastic jerks, but when he can't actually follow through with something as simple as "I threw some files into a Google drive link and sent it to Mark to cover my own rear end after my fuckup"... well, you get what you get.
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There are formal procedures to be used when things have been shared in error and should be memory holed. He did not.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:If this was a normal case and Alex/Reynal weren't being such gigantic shitheads, would "please disregard" have been enough for Mark to not use the files out of professional courtesy? If this was a normal case, Mark would have had those files already. Jones lost the case because he and his team refused to comply with discovery, so no one was inclined to be merciful when his team accidentally sent a bunch of stuff that they'd refused to provide during discovery.
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Sometimes chronically lovely people rely on most people not being lovely. If they are the shittiest guy in the room it gives them an advantage. Prisoner's dilemma where you gain a benefit from hitting Betray, but only as long as no one else does it too. So he bases his career on not being professional or courteous to others, but is all shocked Pikachu face when another lawyer doesn't extend professional courtesy to him anymore.
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goatface posted:There are formal procedures to be used when things have been shared in error and should be memory holed. He did not. 
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