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Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist


Love this guy. Dunks on himself all the time.

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kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Bugsy posted:

There is way to many idiots whinging about student loan repayments that had ppp loans forgiven, but heres a nice compilation of them.

https://twitter.com/trayne_wreck/status/1562587880026808321

My personal favorite is this bitter goober. Just keep being a crab in the bucket.
https://twitter.com/TexasGOP/status/1562469558040264706
"Peers" not friends, peers.
https://twitter.com/TexasGOP/status/1562469688130797570

https://twitter.com/TexasGOP/status/1562551386185023488

This guy sure is mad that other people will now be able to *checks notes* afford to eat

Killingyouguy!
Sep 8, 2014

Zesty posted:



Love this guy. Dunks on himself all the time.

I don't find this Satisfactory at all

DJ Fuckboy Supreme
Feb 10, 2011

And when you stare long into the abyss, you become aggressively, terminally chill

It never fails to amaze me that because I think a government should provide for the people within its purview that this is somehow bad and worthy of derision.

Like, maybe people should be encouraged to pursue education at the government's expense in exchange for a minimal achievement average during their enrolment, and maybe other incentives should be created to ensure those same people invest in their country versus leaving for another, to prevent brain drain.

Nope, that's a socialism and we all know how bad that is. Don't look behind the curtain where a bunch of the opponents to loan forgiveness have had their own loans forgiven. Totally different sitch etc.

Way more important to keep poverty in place cause otherwise how can these humanity-divested liches stay in office if the average person is too ignorant to think critically, and those with degrees too saddled with debt to act?

That's my dose of doomerism gonna go have a cry on the treadmill lol

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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NOOOOOO that makes you dependent on the government teet REEEEEEEEEE

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Hard times make hard men
Hard men make soft times
Soft times make soft men
Soft men make hard times
- a bunch of people who inexplicably believe that they lived through hard times

Splicer has a new favorite as of 15:26 on Aug 26, 2022

Andos El Pantos
May 7, 2004

Splicer posted:

Hard times make hard men
Hard men make soft times
Soft times make soft men
Soft men make soft times
- a bunch of people who inexplicably believe that they lived through hard times

Well yeah, they had to wait in a really long line for gas that one time. loving horrific man.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Splicer posted:

Hard times make hard men
Hard men make soft times
Soft times make soft men
Soft men make soft times
- a bunch of people who inexplicably believe that they lived through hard times
Hard and soft men should work together to achieve their common goal of soft times

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Andos El Pantos posted:

Well yeah, they had to wait in a really long line for gas that one time. loving horrific man.

The true horror were all the brown people they had to cast their gaze upon, for our overlords must only ever see pristine white or their souls will become corrupted...


Oh god, I think i just accidentally started a cult, gently caress

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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Flipperwaldt posted:

Hard and soft men should work together to achieve their common goal of soft times

Hard men make hard men soft with time (and a bit of spit)

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Flipperwaldt posted:

Hard and soft men should work together to achieve their common goal of soft times
Lol i hosed up the last line of the dumb boomer thing

Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007

Apparently they actually did hire someone new.

I honestly don’t believe that the Biden White House has ever pushed back like this on anything.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Nucleic Acids posted:

Apparently they actually did hire someone new.

I honestly don’t believe that the Biden White House has ever pushed back like this on anything.

Apparently yeah, they hired someone new and she's decided to choose violence, and I love it.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
She used to run the official Twitter account of New Jersey.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

Henchman of Santa posted:

She used to run the official Twitter account of New Jersey.

Democrats back in bed with the mob, then

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

Killingyouguy! posted:

I don't find this Satisfactory at all

You might say you're

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY

Douche Wolf 89
Dec 9, 2010

🍉🐺8️⃣9️⃣

Nucleic Acids posted:

Apparently they actually did hire someone new.

yeah, dark brandon :getin:

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Something something unfair to people who didn't take out student loans.

:smuggo: "Life isn't fair you regressive snowflake."

Use their own tactics against them.

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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I mean, a lot of the time these people aren't acting super rational and rely on logical fallacies to support an irrational belief. Talking poo poo, pointing out their hypocrisy and pointing out the inconsistencies with facts & data isn't going to cause most people to re-examine their beliefs. Feels good though sometimes

It's a similar argument we see in regards to climate change, welfare systems, military policy, election reform, et al. There's always going to be some who pig headedly refuse to accept change, but there's got to be some that could be swayed. I figure the best way to get broader support is to increase buy-in. But how do we go about doing that on an individual basis without being dismissive and still addressing their needs & concerns too? Even if their concerns are dumb, it doesn't mean they're not legitimate to them.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
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The point isn't to convince them, it's to increase the number of onlookers who come away with "lol what a dumbfuck" instead of :hmmyes:

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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Well yeah if anybody was going to try convince someone else online, especially fuckin Twitter, then just lol gl with that. Online discourse tends to have the same impact as a bunch of people shouting at each other from the stands at a soccer match.

I was thinking about personal interactions, where people might be a little more amenable to conversation if they felt that some of their concerns are validated. Everybody has a bunch of assumptions and fears that don't really make a lot of sense, and it's natural to get anxious or angry when we don't know why or someone tells us we're wrong. Hell, I know that expecting I can change anyone's mind is just setting myself up for disappointment. I've just been wondering lately how to go about approaching it with kindness - while still explaining the mistakes in their understanding and conclusions.

Some poo poo needs to get shut down, pronto, before it causes damage. I'm just trying to take another way that gives people some compassion.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

https://twitter.com/levinejonathan/status/1563181922234142725?s=21&t=TNBnH1oeTfbrAiOX5Iq6Wg

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



Nobody wanted free government money. They were obligated to take the free government money.

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006


I don't remember a single point in 2020 when anything around me was forced to shut down by the government.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

McCracAttack posted:

I don't remember a single point in 2020 when anything around me was forced to shut down by the government.

Most restaurants?

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


McCracAttack posted:

I don't remember a single point in 2020 when anything around me was forced to shut down by the government.

Depends on where you live. In my area of Silicon Valley, you absolutely weren't allowed to visit anything but the grocery store and other "essential businesses". When I gave blood in March 2020, they gave me a card to show any cops who pulled me over for driving. Nobody did, but the roads were deserted, and I'm talking El Camino Real, through the shopping districts of multiple towns.

Rat Patrol
Feb 15, 2008

kill kill kill kill
kill me now
Well nobody loving WANTS to take out student loans either, kids are forced to otherwise they just don't get to get a degree which obviously has its own consequences jfc

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Depends on where you live. In my area of Silicon Valley, you absolutely weren't allowed to visit anything but the grocery store and other "essential businesses". When I gave blood in March 2020, they gave me a card to show any cops who pulled me over for driving. Nobody did, but the roads were deserted, and I'm talking El Camino Real, through the shopping districts of multiple towns.

Ah, that explains it. I live in the chudlands.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Nobody forced you to start a business, taking on the risks associated with that is supposed to be the justification for why you get to run the thing.

LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.

McCracAttack posted:

Ah, that explains it. I live in the chudlands.

In that case, businesses near you didn't close and still took the PPP loans.

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

LawfulWaffle posted:

In that case, businesses near you didn't close and still took the PPP loans.

They sure did. Putting my zipcode into this thing is fun: Tracking PPP: Search Every Company Approved for Federal Loans

The biggest loans went to churches.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️

Nobody wanted to take out a loan because entity charges insane amounts of money for thing

:rolleyes:

This argument works for anything.

Except replace entity with University and thing be tuition.

grittyreboot
Oct 2, 2012

OwlFancier posted:

Nobody forced you to start a business, taking on the risks associated with that is supposed to be the justification for why you get to run the thing.

No but a small business owner is the lifeblood of Real America, and as your governor, I vow I will let a thousand workers die before an owner of an aluminum siding business scrapes his knee. And furthermore

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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OwlFancier posted:

Nobody forced you to start a business, taking on the risks associated with that is supposed to be the justification for why you get to run the thing.

It's important to give money to a business and bail them because they are the real citizens, and deserve support when they struggle or calamity strikes regardless of their own culpability. That's just the way things work, so you can't hold them morally responsible.

When a person faces an emergency or can't afford the necessities of life, that's their own drat fault. They can't take care of their own drat selves, so they're responsible for whatever befalls them. Doesn't matter if they did it to themselves or it was handed to 'em by God - that's just the ways things work.

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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Unpopular opinion (at least on this website) but I legitimately do not understand why I, and by extension my tax dollars, should be accountable for the failures of other weaker people than myself. This is why I am and always will be a staunch opponent of the Farm Bill Act of 1933.

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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That bill is nothing but pork barrel spending!

e: something about Goldwater Girls

Cool Kids Club Soda has a new favorite as of 22:36 on Aug 26, 2022

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

oldpainless posted:

Unpopular opinion (at least on this website) but I legitimately do not understand why I, and by extension my tax dollars, should be accountable for the failures of other weaker people than myself. This is why I am and always will be a staunch opponent of the Farm Bill Act of 1933.

something something oldsocialcontractless.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

oldpainless posted:

Unpopular opinion (at least on this website) but I legitimately do not understand why I, and by extension my tax dollars, should be accountable for the failures of other weaker people than myself. This is why I am and always will be a staunch opponent of the Farm Bill Act of 1933.

more like oldpayless

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Neito posted:

something something oldsocialcontractless.

oldpaineless.

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cult_hero
Jul 10, 2001
The real problem we have with PPP loans is that we didn't see them really being applied as intended. They were for payroll protection, i.e. ensure that wages and rent are paid while unable to operate at full capacity. What we end up seeing is business takes loan, lays off/furlows employees to take on unemployment, pocket the loan, and get it forgiven. Or alternatively, as in the case of congress members, they took the loan, allowed their staffs to go remote, continued to generate income, pocket the money, and get it forgiven.

From an outside perspective, the greatest beneficiaries of the program come off as the greatest grifters of it.

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