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Dudes rock.
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Aug 26, 2022 16:58
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Man I looked through the Peter Sarsgaard episode of SNL from January 2006 and holy poo poo is it a time capsule of bad. There's a sketch where pirates love to say arrrrr followed by a digital short that's Chuck Norris jokes. The thing opens with a topical sketch that involves minutes and minutes of Darrell Hammond in blackface playing Jesse Jackson. What a loving wretched time it was I forget. Was that after Tina Fey and Will Farrell left? It wasn't like SNL was high art while they were both there, but I don't think the show's writing has ever recovered from Fey's departure. The performer talent level has been pretty underwhelming in that past decade too. But I feel like what I just said has been said about SNL since the 80s.
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Aug 26, 2022 16:58
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I can't wait for Roger Waters to reconcile this in his head.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/clevelanddotcom/status/1563156846722285570
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Aug 26, 2022 16:59
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Why is catholicism having a resurgance?
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Aug 26, 2022 17:05
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oh boy a 1970s Xmas period piece . would fit well today lol.
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Aug 26, 2022 17:06
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one of my grammar school friend's mom's boyfriend was a henchman in death to smoochy. nice guy. went to see the movie in the theater with them. was weird for an 8th grader. i remember enjoying it but have not checked it out since.
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Aug 26, 2022 17:07
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Mr Hootington posted:Why is catholicism having a resurgance? When times are apocalyptic, people go back to the church.
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Aug 26, 2022 17:08
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Mr Hootington posted:Why is catholicism having a resurgance? rich people subconsciously feeling guilty about everyone else having a poo poo life. catholicism preys on that guilt and lets you hand-wave it away. for regular folks who the gently caress knows.
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Aug 26, 2022 17:09
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Mr Hootington posted:Why is catholicism having a resurgance? American Protestantism is inherently empty and meaningless, leaving any generic suburban white person who feels alienated and isolated without any spiritual roots when they try to turn to their generic WASPy family history Also isn't Shia a sex creep? I think that may be a plus for picking Catholicism too.
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KidDynamite posted:rich people subconsciously feeling guilty about everyone else having a poo poo life. catholicism preys on that guilt and lets you hand-wave it away. I think it's also a burgeoning awareness that even being super rich and being able to do whatever you want is incredibly unfulfilling after a while there is a gnawing emptiness in a life solely focused on consumption so ritual is a good way to push those thoughts away also could be a broader backlash to the nihlism of the 70s/80s/90s and general hopelessness of modern existence
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Aug 26, 2022 17:27
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Oh god. Speaking as a Born and Raised Lapsed Catholic, there's nothing worse than a Catholic Convert. KidDynamite posted:catholicism preys on that guilt and lets you hand-wave it away. Buuuullllllshit. It most certainly does not. It ramps that poo poo to 11 then passes the collection plate around. sexpig by night posted:American Protestantism is inherently empty and meaningless, leaving any generic suburban white person who feels alienated and isolated without any spiritual roots when they try to turn to their generic WASPy family history A big reason why Protestantism vs. Catholicism was ever a thing was the very nature of the faith involved with the two. In modern America Evangelical Protestantism is all in on faith above all else. Just believe, nothing else matters, everyone can make their own brand, do what they want, just say the magic words and you're good. Catholicism never had any sort of Evangelical flavor. It's always been The Vatican, The Ceremony, The Mass and Saints, and Doing Good Works. You gotta believe, but you gotta put in the work too. Which for a long time was a negative for many people (the doing works part). However as Sexpig says, Protestantism is so loving hollow now. It's all prosperity gospel assholes and empty stripmall services. Catholicism fills that even if you don't like doing pancake breakfasts for homeless people once a month. But there's another aspect to it: American Catholicism has been having a stealth Evangelical take over for the last 30 years or so. There's a charismatic christian cult known as "Mother of God". They've been a big force in basically rewriting traditionally liberal and progressive Catholic teachings (outside of abortion) into hardcore Right Wing bigotry. Of course these people start right after Vatican II, for all the reasons you expect, but it took a long time to build a core base. Officially they're not part of the Catholic church and the Vatican is really not cool with them. They're "recognized" as a "private association of the faithful" which is basically just "we're not excommunicating you, but we're keeping tabs". Also they regularly try to take over churches with their own people and more than once the Church has come in to kick them out or straight up shut down parishes because of them. MOG is one of the bigger ones but there's a big push to make a version of Catholicism that's just hardcore Right Wing Prosperity Gospel GOP flavor. Not to mention the very weird "Trad Cath" poo poo that Alt-Right people are drumming up.
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Catholicism also has an extremely powerful superficial aesthetic that all of these very shallow people are attracted to. catholicism, especially American Catholicism, is very friendly to people who want all the trappings of an ancient religion with fancy places of worship and expensive accessories and bits of canon to obsess over without having to commit *too* hard, whereas islam or judaism have higher barriers to entry and require actual substantive lifestyle changes as part of being a member of the faith. if you want to be an American Catholic all you need to do is have some pedophile splash water on your face and maybe show up to the major holidays
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Aug 26, 2022 17:49
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old school Catholic conservativism views poverty and oppression as blessed conditions, and believes* those groups should be cared for by the better off in society. Largely it does not favor empowering those groups, and that's justified because it could actually morally damage the people who are poor. In the US that comes off as progressive because here the mainstream view is that the poor should be *allegedly, actual follow through doesn't actually happen Atrocious Joe has issued a correction as of 18:02 on Aug 26, 2022 |
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Aug 26, 2022 17:58
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:... maybe show up to the major holidays The good ol' C & E.
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Aug 26, 2022 17:59
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he's Catholic LaBeouf now
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Aug 26, 2022 18:04
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Shitstorm Trooper posted:Dudes rock. Hell yes
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Aug 26, 2022 18:24
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a return to the established church fits well with the whole anti-communism-without-communism thing we've got going on
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We are becoming stronger
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Post-Post-Modernism is a return to the Totalizing narratives of Modernism but, like, don't let yourself get all worked up over it, jeez.
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Aug 26, 2022 18:54
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Antonymous posted:some really cool movie posts On the subject of Death to Smoochy: I don't know dick about cinematography or lighting, but having caught it the other day after this thread reminded me of its existence, I'd just like to toss out the opinion that it is funny as gently caress and an absolutely great watch.
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Aug 26, 2022 18:58
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Crain posted:MOG is one of the bigger ones but there's a big push to make a version of Catholicism that's just hardcore Right Wing Prosperity Gospel GOP flavor. Not to mention the very weird "Trad Cath" poo poo that Alt-Right people are drumming up.
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Aug 26, 2022 19:01
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The ideal religion is probably some mix between Islam, Sikhism, and Ambedkarian Buddhism.
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converting to a monotheistic religion is an extremely liberal thing to do
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Crain posted:Buuuullllllshit. It most certainly does not. It ramps that poo poo to 11 then passes the collection plate around. that is the handwaving i am referring to.
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Aug 26, 2022 19:54
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Trad Caths are losers. This is America, you should convert to Mormonism if you convert to anything, not some dying Euro cult.
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Aug 26, 2022 19:54
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you know what? sure, ill watch this garbage if for some reason though it were set in modern times ralphie would buy his kid an AR15 or something
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Aug 26, 2022 20:03
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Mantis42 posted:Trad Caths are losers. This is America, you should convert to Mormonism if you convert to anything, not some dying Euro cult. Mormonism (progressive schools) is acceptable since it is polytheistic
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Aug 26, 2022 20:14
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A Christmas Story was already a product of Boomer nostalgia, just like National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation and Scrooged were incredibly sentimental about Boomer childhoods. Why on earth are we going back to that?
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Aug 26, 2022 20:20
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Frosted Flake posted:A Christmas Story was already a product of Boomer nostalgia, just like National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation and Scrooged were incredibly sentimental about Boomer childhoods. Why on earth are we going back to that? because there is no future to look forward to and no present to enjoy, we can only continue strip mining our memories for joy
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Aug 26, 2022 20:23
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even when I was a kid A Christmas Story seemed way too "old" for me to enjoy despite forcing myself to watch it multiple times
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Aug 26, 2022 20:30
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:because there is no future to look forward to and no present to enjoy, we can only continue strip mining our memories for joy I understand that bit, but didn’t Gen X and the Millennials overtake the Boomers demographically? They’re not even our memories, they’re movies we watched about other people’s memories. Like, Millennials may be nostalgic for Pleasantville and Back to the Future, but not the 50’s. Gen X has probably seen Peggy Sue Got Married, but it’s not their lives in the film. It’s just a bit strange is all. e: Though I do wonder what nostalgia for the 90’s and 2000’s would look like. Beyond the aesthetic, I mean. That Woodstock 99 documentary was almost the opposite in tone to Boomers still looking back on the original fondly. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 20:33 on Aug 26, 2022 |
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Aug 26, 2022 20:30
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The thing is they already made Christmas Story 2 like 5 years ago and everyone hated it
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Frosted Flake posted:I understand that bit, but didn’t Gen X and the Millennials overtake the Boomers demographically? They’re not even our memories, they’re movies we watched about other people’s memories. oh it's absolutely strange! The extent of the psychic damage that the "I Love The 80's" series did to the Millennial generation will never truly be understood.
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Aug 26, 2022 20:37
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Mantis42 posted:The thing is they already made Christmas Story 2 like 5 years ago and everyone hated it
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What makes it all the more stranger is that Nostalgia is just another word for homesickness. Someone who was born in the 90s/00s, who pines for the culture of an era they didn't live through and that they've only experienced through rose-colored reproductions of that era - they are homesick for a home they've never lived in. Incredibly strange stuff.
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Jesus was it really a whole decade ago? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDpjOoOcZwk
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:What makes it all the more stranger is that Nostalgia is just another word for homesickness. Someone who was born in the 90s/00s, who pines for the culture of an era they didn't live through and that they've only experienced through rose-colored reproductions of that era - they are homesick for a home they've never lived in. Incredibly strange stuff. That’s what I’m saying, but maybe it’s difficult to recapture that sentiment for the 90’s and 2000’s? Christmas 2001 is out because everyone was still talking about 9/11, Christmas 2002 Henry Kissinger stepped down as the chairman of a panel investigating the September 11 attacks, citing conflict of interest with his clients, Christmas 2003 the news was entirely about the US capturing Saddam etc.
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as discussed earlier in the thread, there's plenty of 2000s nostalgia that doesn't revolve around what the bush admin was doing, and it's already being mined. mall punk. flip phones. nsync and backstreet boys. britney. etc
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