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BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Kchama posted:

You'd hope that but he did, in fact, delete the picture he was calling racist. It was not a BYOB shitpost.

Well drat then, kinda conflicted here cuz that's really sad but also really funny

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ili
Jul 26, 2003


drat chinese people, I can't believe they did a racism against daddy Xi.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

ili posted:

drat chinese people, I can't believe they did a racism against daddy Xi.

This hurts the feeling of the...

Uh...

Chinese people?

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys
This hurts the feelings of the Chinese person.

You know the one.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Tree Bucket posted:

This hurts the feelings of the Chinese person.

You know the one.

I realise that I am literally the first person to be able to make this unique joke:

That's what Xi said!

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
*crack jinping*

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
:pusheen:

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


So one of China's top official historical research institutes has released a new paper explaining that the isolationism of the Ming and Qing dynasties was Cool and Good, Actually.

I'm sure this is going to end well.

https://twitter.com/henrysgao/status/1563794649126297600

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Porfiriato posted:

So one of China's top official historical research institutes has released a new paper explaining that the isolationism of the Ming and Qing dynasties was Cool and Good, Actually.

I'm sure this is going to end well.

https://twitter.com/henrysgao/status/1563794649126297600

I once joked that the reduced number of foreigners still in China during the current covid-related immigration restriction would end up isolated and eventually naturalise and form a new minority group, the Wai, with their own unique foods, customs, and dance.

I am now becoming slightly uneasy.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

No Wai.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
It is the Wai.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme
What would be the Wai dance, since as we all know, dancing is the only permitted activity for minority groups.

Terminal autist
May 17, 2018

by vyelkin

Atopian posted:

I once joked that the reduced number of foreigners still in China during the current covid-related immigration restriction would end up isolated and eventually naturalise and form a new minority group, the Wai, with their own unique foods, customs, and dance.

I am now becoming slightly uneasy.

Is there really that many sexpats in China?

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM

Darkest Auer posted:

What would be the Wai dance, since as we all know, dancing is the only permitted activity for minority groups.

safety dance

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Darkest Auer posted:

What would be the Wai dance, since as we all know, dancing is the only permitted activity for minority groups.

The macarena, obviously.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Terminal autist posted:

Is there really that many sexpats in China?

Relative to the overall population, no, a rounding error.
In absolute numbers... I guess still quite a few?

I think before all that covid stuff it was in the low hundreds of thousands. Now, ???

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
What happens if some group tries to create anti wai ism by claiming the wai are part of secret group that controls the worlds money supply?

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
it would prolly be square dance, it's the state dance of 23 states

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Ups_rail posted:

What happens if some group tries to create anti wai ism by claiming the wai are part of secret group that controls the worlds money supply?

id scream

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Ups_rail posted:

What happens if some group tries to create anti wai ism by claiming the wai are part of secret group that controls the worlds money supply?

The CIA would start planning a colour revolution with them but forget to secure their comms server.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Atopian posted:

The CIA would start planning a colour revolution with them but forget to secure their offsite Discord server.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

WaiMCA

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Terminal autist posted:

Is there really that many sexpats in China?

I doubt it. China has been cleaning up in regards to that.

I remember brothels lining the street my first apartment in Fuzhou around 2017. They were gone by next year. Made for good people watching during dinner.

Maybe on Tinder or Tantan?

PITY BONER
Oct 18, 2021

Porfiriato posted:

So one of China's top official historical research institutes has released a new paper explaining that the isolationism of the Ming and Qing dynasties was Cool and Good, Actually.
I don't know much about it, but was their isolation more like Japan's, where they adopted some of the stuff they liked from foreigners but rejected the rest? Or was it more like that whole "we're the most innovative people ever, the barbarians are dumb and have nothing to offer us, and why do we keep getting steamrolled by Mongols and their descendants?" schtick?

Atopian posted:

Relative to the overall population, no, a rounding error.
In absolute numbers... I guess still quite a few?

I think before all that covid stuff it was in the low hundreds of thousands. Now, ???
I can't imagine actual sexpats holding on well at all, but they probably still view their chances there are still better than back home. There some's obnoxious regular poster in r/China, I think he's French or Italian, that was whining about how difficult the restrictions have been on trying to bang locals (such as not being able to bring non-residents back to buildings). That being the case in many parts of China right now, I doubt true sexpats are doing very well. 2022 China seems like the place where the difficulty is going to be compounded, but I don't think we should underestimate the levels of general unhappiness and discontent a sexpat will put up with for the possibility of getting some strange (look at all those old boomer sexpat retirees in Thailand who absolutely loving hate everything about Thailand, but the day drinking and bar girls mean they'll accept living in absolute self-created misery for decades until they die).

On the other hand, there were plenty of foreign workers who are/were unhappy in China because of the myriad of reasons that make living there suck (long before covid came along), paired with xenophobia and racism/prejudice, but they put up with it because the pay is better than other places. It seems like the people that are left there are either in it for the money and/or they married a local and/or have kids, and they can't flee to a reasonable job elsewhere or afford the insane cost of leaving and moving right now. I was completely over China as a whole long before the pandemic came along, and I can't imagine the levels of general daily frustration that someone long over China feels if they can't get out or don't have post-China work lined up, sexpat or not.

I currently only have one foreign friend that has remained in China, and it's only because the salary in China for that tech job pays 2/3rds more than what she'd earn back home. Due to constant restrictions, along with no friends able to enter each other's buildings, she works from her apartment most of the month, can't meet anyone, and lives in a level of isolation that has put her into a deep depression. A teetotaler her whole adult life, she has taken up drinking in her 30s to deal with living in China. But, the money is good.

Mozi posted:

*crack jinping*
LMAO

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


PITY BONER posted:

"we're the most innovative people ever, the barbarians are dumb and have nothing to offer us, and why do we keep getting steamrolled by Mongols and their descendants?" schtick?

It's this one. Usually summarized by the famous letter from Emperor Qianlong to George III.

https://china.usc.edu/emperor-qianlong-letter-george-iii-1793

quote:

Hitherto, all European nations, including your own country's barbarian merchants, have carried on their trade with our Celestial Empire at Canton. Such has been the procedure for many years, although our Celestial Empire possesses all things in prolific abundance and lacks no product within its own borders. There was therefore no need to import the manufactures of outside barbarians in exchange for our own produce.

Turned out that dismissing all those "barbarian" technologies didn't go well.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
About as well as trying to control the opium.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

Porfiriato posted:

So one of China's top official historical research institutes has released a new paper explaining that the isolationism of the Ming and Qing dynasties was Cool and Good, Actually.

I'm sure this is going to end well.

https://twitter.com/henrysgao/status/1563794649126297600

well, we'll just have to make it sting

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Oh, sorry, I genuinely assumed that 'sexpat' was being used as shorthand for 'expats lol'.

Yeah, there can't be that many actual sexpats left because, as noted, covid restrictions.
Just not an environment supportive of that stuff anymore.
Presumably they dried up and blew away to somewhere else in Asia.

Edit: Leaving the expats aside for a moment, covid stuff has apparently caused a lot of Chinese marriages significant problems, as people who were accustomed to frequenting prostitutes or xiaosan were instead forced into close proximity with their families for months, with unfortunate results.

Atopian fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Aug 29, 2022

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__HtpD02s0g

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Atopian posted:

Oh, sorry, I genuinely assumed that 'sexpat' was being used as shorthand for 'expats lol'.

Yeah, there can't be that many actual sexpats left because, as noted, covid restrictions.
Just not an environment supportive of that stuff anymore.
Presumably they dried up and blew away to somewhere else in Asia.

Probably to Thailand <shudder>.

Seriously is their any other country that hearing about single male expats going to sets off alarm bells like Thailand?

It’s a shame Thailand and Thais have to deal with that.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Probably to Thailand <shudder>.

Seriously is their any other country that hearing about single male expats going to sets off alarm bells like Thailand?

It’s a shame Thailand and Thais have to deal with that.

The Philippines

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Probably to Thailand <shudder>.

Seriously is their any other country that hearing about single male expats going to sets off alarm bells like Thailand?

It’s a shame Thailand and Thais have to deal with that.

Cambodia.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?



Yeah. Thailand is old news, Cambodia is where the creeps have moved.

Cambodia is still great to visit though, Angkor is the most amazing place I've ever been.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Kampot is where most of the chill expats fled after Otres and sihnoukville was bulldozed again by Chinese casino development, displacing the locals yet again, however the developers are trying very hard to move on kampot now, the only hurdle was the casino on bokor has a rule banning buildings being x levels high and no casinos in a 20km radius, it'll get changed and ruined.

Local people don't even get employed by these changes, as they fly chinese workers in via guangzhou.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Kharnifex posted:

Kampot is where most of the chill expats fled after Otres and sihnoukville was bulldozed again by Chinese casino development, displacing the locals yet again, however the developers are trying very hard to move on kampot now, the only hurdle was the casino on bokor has a rule banning buildings being x levels high and no casinos in a 20km radius, it'll get changed and ruined.

Local people don't even get employed by these changes, as they fly chinese workers in via guangzhou.

From wiki:


gimme that pizza

MinutePirateBug
Mar 4, 2013

Grand Fromage posted:

Yeah. Thailand is old news, Cambodia is where the creeps have moved.

Cambodia is still great to visit though, Angkor is the most amazing place I've ever been.

Given your background I expect you knew a lot of creeps. Do you have any interesting observations of stuff like culture in the creep community? Are sexpats mostly people going around teaching english/whatever or just wealthy dudes coming in McAfee style?

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
Oh gods Cambodia.

I visited once, and in the hotel there was this info card that basically plaintively begged you not to gently caress child prostitutes.

The need for such a card is bad enough, but the tone was something else.
Like it assumed that obviously you were here to bang a 9-year-old, but have you considered maybe not doing that? Please?

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
I had some pretty amazing hand pulled noodles and dumplings in kampot, about 2.50 USD for a big bowl. There's some good American bbq places etc too and some great local food

Phnom Penh and Siem reap were the skeeziest places I came across.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Jesus Christ I thought Cambodia was pay to shoot an RPG or see Angor Wat. I didn’t realize the pedo tourism was that bad. Philippines not so much.

I just remember Thailand from a lot of busts of truly heinous people.

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Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010
It sucks because I've always thought Thailand and much of south/southeast Asia looked like pretty awesome places to visit, but as a single white guy, it would just feel too shameful

GoutPatrol posted:

From wiki:


gimme that pizza

:mrgw:

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