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Bruce Hussein Daddy: Dec 26, 2005; I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God

champagne posting posted:

oooh I would've gone boomer electrical engineer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhI88tg1Gqg

# ? Aug 16, 2022 23:48

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# ? May 25, 2024 11:13

Spatial: Nov 15, 2007

code:

#define COMPANY_NAME_LITERAL_1UL (1uL)

Seriously? :doh:

It's used all over the place too.

# ? Aug 26, 2022 15:35

Presto: Nov 22, 2002; Keep calm and Harry on.

Yeah, that's stupid. I mean, if the company name changes then you have to rename the macro!

# ? Aug 26, 2022 18:30

wolfman101: Feb 8, 2004; PCXL Fanboy

Presto posted:

Yeah, that's stupid. I mean, if the company name changes then you have to rename the macro!

It is amazing how often people put company names on things in startups, when startup names change every 3-6 years.

# ? Aug 28, 2022 13:31

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

Well even the giants too in the case of Meta/Alphabet

say why hasn't anyone demanded FAANG be updated to MAAAN yet

# ? Aug 28, 2022 13:44

more falafel please: Feb 26, 2005; forums poster

shame on an IGA posted:

Well even the giants too in the case of Meta/Alphabet

say why hasn't anyone demanded FAANG be updated to MAAAN yet

It ignores Alphabet but I've heard MANGA

# ? Aug 28, 2022 17:05

StumblyWumbly: Sep 12, 2007; Batmanticore!

Is Netflix is just there because it makes for better acronyms, right? Is there some huge Netflix payday I'm missing out, or do I just have the N completely wrong?

# ? Aug 28, 2022 22:52

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

The N is Microsoft, by way of Nokia

# ? Aug 28, 2022 22:59

rjmccall: Sep 7, 2007; no worries friend; Fun Shoe

StumblyWumbly posted:

Is Netflix is just there because it makes for better acronyms, right? Is there some huge Netflix payday I'm missing out, or do I just have the N completely wrong?

There was a time when Netflix looked like a rising giant, before people realized that its business model was not very difficult to replicate if you had your own library of streamable content.

Also IIRC the acronym was originally about big tech employers specifically in the Bay Area, which is the main reason it doesn�t include Microsoft. (Amazon is obviously huge in Seattle, but they�re still a major employer in SF.)

# ? Aug 28, 2022 23:43

Sagacity: May 2, 2003; Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

FAANG sounds like a good name for the Vampiric Council in What We Do in The Shadows

# ? Aug 28, 2022 23:50

smackfu: Jun 7, 2004

Originally it was a stocks thing.
https://www.cnbc.com/id/100436754

quote:

If you're looking to play tech, think FANG, Bob Lang's acronym for Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, and Google. All 4 names appear to be turbocharged momentum stocks that could have a lot more room to run according to Lang's chart work.

# ? Aug 29, 2022 01:23

leper khan: Dec 28, 2010; Honest to god thinks Half Life 2 is a bad game. But at least he likes Monster Hunter.

Sagacity posted:

FAANG sounds like a good name for the Vampiric Council in What We Do in The Shadows

gently caress, it really does

# ? Aug 29, 2022 02:40

ShimaTetsuo: Sep 9, 2001; Maximus Quietus

smackfu posted:

Originally it was a stocks thing.
https://www.cnbc.com/id/100436754

"chart work" is pseudoscience and very much Not Real. the fact that the name comes from this dumbass is hilarious. it's like going around saying "yeah im pretty successful, i work for a pisces company". absolute nonsense.

# ? Aug 29, 2022 03:02

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

ShimaTetsuo posted:

"chart work" is pseudoscience and very much Not Real. the fact that the name comes from this dumbass is hilarious. it's like going around saying "yeah im pretty successful, i work for a pisces company". absolute nonsense.

I read a book about how bad stock nonsense was in the 80s and they were making fun of "chart work", guess I shouldn't be surprised it's still around.

# ? Aug 29, 2022 03:25

champagne posting: Apr 5, 2006; YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

rjmccall posted:

There was a time when Netflix looked like a rising giant, before people realized that its business model was not very difficult to replicate if you had your own library of streamable content.

Also IIRC the acronym was originally about big tech employers specifically in the Bay Area, which is the main reason it doesn�t include Microsoft. (Amazon is obviously huge in Seattle, but they�re still a major employer in SF.)

AFAIK this is the business model of every fintech as well:

Identify issue body currently handled by bank which could easily translate into an app, solve transfers / fraud detection / stock buying, get acquired

Actually solving the issue like with so many other startups is largely optional

# ? Aug 29, 2022 04:24

redleader: Aug 18, 2005; Engage according to operational parameters

shame on an IGA posted:

Well even the giants too in the case of Meta/Alphabet

say why hasn't anyone demanded FAANG be updated to MAAAN yet

do not allow them to escape their sins by changing their names. FAANG they were, and FAANG they shall ever be

# ? Aug 29, 2022 05:00

Hammerite: Mar 9, 2007; And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.; Jade Ear Joe

Functional programming is an ideal fit for developing blockchains :mrgw:

# ? Sep 1, 2022 16:33

leper khan: Dec 28, 2010; Honest to god thinks Half Life 2 is a bad game. But at least he likes Monster Hunter.

FP weenies, who historically have not been able to justify why their preferred paradigm is meaningfully better than other methods, does indeed sound like a fit for blockchain tech.

# ? Sep 1, 2022 17:12

raminasi: Jan 25, 2005; a last drink with no ice

leper khan posted:

FP weenies, who historically have not been able to justify why their preferred paradigm is meaningfully better than other methods, does indeed sound like a fit for blockchain tech.

It's more fun :colbert:

# ? Sep 1, 2022 17:29

Xarn: Jun 26, 2015

well played

# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:03

Beef: Jul 26, 2004

Truely pure functional languages offer the same utility as cryptocurrencies: converting electricity to heat

# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:41

Carbon dioxide: Oct 9, 2012

Beef posted:

Truely pure functional languages offer the same utility as cryptocurrencies: converting electricity to heat

No they don't. Converting electricity to heat is a side effect and truly pure FP doesn't have side effects.

# ? Sep 4, 2022 13:01

Beef: Jul 26, 2004

Ah so that is what the Entropy monad is for.

Beef fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Sep 4, 2022

# ? Sep 4, 2022 17:58

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

Carbon dioxide posted:

No they don't. Converting electricity to heat is a side effect and truly pure FP doesn't have side effects.

# ? Sep 4, 2022 19:04

ultrafilter: Aug 23, 2007; It's okay if you have any questions.

https://twitter.com/bagder/status/1567162794092404742

# ? Sep 6, 2022 17:34

Volmarias: Dec 31, 2002; EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

ultrafilter posted:

https://twitter.com/bagder/status/1567162794092404742

Cursed knowledge

# ? Sep 6, 2022 17:37

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Needs more semicolon

# ? Sep 6, 2022 20:03

Polio Vax Scene: Apr 5, 2009

i didnt need this after my long weekend

# ? Sep 6, 2022 20:07

Macichne Leainig: Jul 26, 2012; by VG

https://twitter.com/punkeel/status/1567169658683277312?t=XLxTNP7hRcH0dQfaFUZY5g&s=19

# ? Sep 6, 2022 20:12

Foxfire_: Nov 8, 2010

Nobody tell them about POSIX file paths

# ? Sep 6, 2022 20:36

duck monster: Dec 15, 2004

Carbon dioxide posted:

Guido never was a fan of the functional coding crowd. Turns out he laid a cunning trap!

# ? Sep 8, 2022 08:41

duck monster: Dec 15, 2004

Found in code by the lovely PHP guy at work that I've mentioned earlier (This is from some JS);-

code:

  switch(true){
        case(v >= d[0].v):
            p = d[0].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[0].v && v >= d[1].v):
            p = d[1].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[1].v && v >= d[2].v):
            p = d[2].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[2].v && v >= d[3].v):
            p = d[3].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[3].v && v >= d[4].v):
            p = d[4].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[4].v && v >= d[5].v):
            p = d[5].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[5].v && v >= d[6].v):
            p = d[6].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[6].v && v >= d[7].v):
            p = d[7].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[7].v && v >= d[8].v):
            p = d[8].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[8].v && v >= d[9].v):
            p = d[9].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[9].v && v >= d[10].v):
            p = d[10].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[10].v && v >= d[11].v):
            p = d[11].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[11].v && v >= d[12].v):
            p = d[12].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[12].v && v >= d[13].v):
            p = d[13].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[13].v && v >= d[14].v):
            p = d[14].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[14].v && v >= d[15].v):
            p = d[15].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[15].v && v >= d[16].v):
            p = d[16].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[16].v && v >= d[17].v):
            p = d[17].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[17].v && v >= d[18].v):
            p = d[18].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[18].v && v >= d[19].v):
            p = d[19].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[19].v && v >= d[20].v):
            p = d[20].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[20].v && v >= d[21].v):
            p = d[21].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[21].v && v >= d[22].v):
            p = d[22].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[22].v && v >= d[23].v):
            p = d[23].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[23].v && v >= d[24].v):
            p = d[24].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[24].v && v >= d[25].v):
            p = d[25].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[25].v && v >= d[26].v):
            p = d[26].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[26].v && v >= d[27].v):
            p = d[27].p;
            break;
        case(v < d[27].v && v >= d[28].v):
            p = d[28].p;
            break;
    }

# ? Sep 8, 2022 08:49

Xarn: Jun 26, 2015

uuuugh why not use a loving loop?

# ? Sep 8, 2022 10:58

Xarn: Jun 26, 2015

Anyway the real horror of this week is -ffast-math and people discovering that it causes the final artifact to link a tiny library that changes FPU state on load.

# ? Sep 8, 2022 10:59

duck monster: Dec 15, 2004

Xarn posted:

uuuugh why not use a loving loop?

This is by the new recruit thats replaced our node.js TCP edge server that could handle 40K connections without breaking a sweat with a PHP abomination filled with SQL interpolations and other "Didnt PHP coders learn this lesson in the 90s?!" horrors that pegs the server on 80 connections, and nobody can convince the boss that he's incompetent.

And yeah that entire bit of code and the lookup table it references replaced a very accurate 3rd order polynomial model that we spent weeks working out the coefficients for, because this clown doesnt do maths. 2 lines of code is what it replaced. For this abomination.

And yes I'm pissed off. But management will management.

duck monster fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Sep 8, 2022

# ? Sep 8, 2022 11:14

Wipfmetz: Oct 12, 2007; Sitzen ein oder mehrere Wipfe in einer Lore, so kann man sie ueber den Rand der Lore hinausschauen sehen.

That is amazing. You can tell somebodys _really_ proud of that trick to substitute for-loops or if/else-chains

# ? Sep 8, 2022 12:34

Spatial: Nov 15, 2007

Xarn posted:

Anyway the real horror of this week is -ffast-math and people discovering that it causes the final artifact to link a tiny library that changes FPU state on load.

Haha. This can be a real ballache, no library ever expects the FPU settings to be messed with and it breaks so many things.

Many years ago this used to be problem with the tool Game Maker. It used doubles as its basic numeric type but to the great frustration of many it often had unexpectedly low precision results. Years later, it turned out to be some DirectX7 setting which changed the FPU settings on load unless you specifically opted out of it.

# ? Sep 8, 2022 14:14

Spatial: Nov 15, 2007

Xarn posted:

uuuugh why not use a loving loop?

Code so bad it looks like the result of decompilation.

I see that kind of thing fairly often when hardware designers write C.

# ? Sep 8, 2022 14:19

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# ? May 25, 2024 11:13

Volmarias: Dec 31, 2002; EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

duck monster posted:

This is by the new recruit thats replaced our node.js TCP edge server that could handle 40K connections without breaking a sweat with a PHP abomination filled with SQL interpolations and other "Didnt PHP coders learn this lesson in the 90s?!" horrors that pegs the server on 80 connections, and nobody can convince the boss that he's incompetent.

And yeah that entire bit of code and the lookup table it references replaced a very accurate 3rd order polynomial model that we spent weeks working out the coefficients for, because this clown doesnt do maths. 2 lines of code is what it replaced. For this abomination.

And yes I'm pissed off. But management will management.

Quietly revert the changes and get him assigned to some kind of pet project for someone who won't actually be there next year.

# ? Sep 8, 2022 16:11

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