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like i would have swore on a stack of bibles the part in red was new brunswick, lol
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no but you see an independent Scotland outside the EU will become Norway!!! (an independent Scotland outside the EU will not, under any circumstances, become Norway, and it will massively suffer until it is able to join the EU as a full member)
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Venomous posted:no but you see an independent Scotland outside the EU will become Norway!!!
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CoolCab posted:like i would have swore on a stack of bibles the part in red was new brunswick, lol lmao the st lawrence estuary is very very important in canadian history!!
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A Buttery Pastry posted:there is one way it could become norway.... I mean I am very much down with Norway annexing an independent Scotland, but Truss'll probably nuke them if they do so
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i say swears online posted:lmao the st lawrence estuary is very very important in canadian history!! worst part is i've travelled through there. it's been awhile alright!!!!
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Venomous posted:I mean I am very much down with Norway annexing an independent Scotland, but Truss'll probably nuke them if they do so
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Where do you think all Britain's nukes are
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Spain will need to get in line or else they get Greeced
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Venomous posted:no but you see an independent Scotland outside the EU will become Norway!!! have you seen the trajectory the EU is currently on? I'm not sure the EU can help anyone anymore, even if it wanted to, which it doesn't
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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/how-youtubes-partnership-londons-police-force-censoring-uks-drill-music UK police are YouTube mods. quote:In June 2019, Operation Domain was replaced by Project Alpha, which involves police officers from gang units operating a database of 34 different categories, including drill music videos, and monitoring sites for intelligence about criminal activity. According to Vice, 1,006 rap videos have been included on the database since 2020 and a heavily redacted Met document notes that Project Alpha aimed to carry out “systematic monitoring or profiling on a large scale,” with men aged between 15 to 21 the primary focus.
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i say swears online posted:yeah i wonder exactly how many people in the conservatives are rich purely through agriculture and it's probably near zero oh, i missed this.the area i'm living in was historically agricultural and rich as hell, because it's where the livestock market all happened and as such it became something of a hub for wealthy landowners who lived in a city and paid someone to watch their cows, or sheep or whatever. there are tons of people who made their money in agriculture but it's more of a consequence of owning land and valuable property like cattle.
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CoolCab posted:oh, i missed this.the area i'm living in was historically agricultural and rich as hell, because it's where the livestock market all happened and as such it became something of a hub for wealthy landowners who lived in a city and paid someone to watch their cows, or sheep or whatever. there are tons of people who made their money in agriculture but it's more of a consequence of owning land and valuable property like cattle. oh yeah 100% i explicitly mean someone tossing hay bales ending up in congress, which absolutely happens in the US. it's just that their family owns 20,000 acres instead of 200 and they went to the big ol' city for a fancy education on nitrate use. it's super different from eton
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if the UK posters itt don't pay attention to US poltics we're gearing up for an election in early november. the ohio senate candidate, JD Vance, is polling well below the national average and he embodies our version of a local poor kid who came back home as a fancy boy after harvard. ohio isn't the funniest race this cycle (that's pennsylvania) but it's very emblematic of US politics in 2022
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If someone owns a shitload of land it's really a secondary matter if they get rich from paying people to grow crops or raise cattle on it or if they charge people a shitload of their income to live or travel on it, that's a battle over distribution of surplus value extracted from the working class. This was demonstrated in the 1800s by battles between the traditional aristocracy against industrialists where even the losing side was allowed to transform itself into the same mode of production as the dominant political form of capital accumulation, although if the rentiers got the best of it then it mostly meant losing the subsequent war against a European power which was successfully combining industrial and financial capitalism.
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there are absolutely loads of tories who own embarrassingly enormous swathes of land which they lease long term for agricultural use
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in is in fact the very basis of wealth for much of your aristocracy
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bitmap posted:there are absolutely loads of tories who own embarrassingly enormous swathes of land which they lease long term for agricultural use To go back to my hobby horse, as of 2019, the Scottish government reckon that 57% of rural Scotland (& this is a country that is mostly very rural) is owned by private landowners. Meanwhile the land reformer Andy Wightman estimates about 50% of rural Scotland is owned by just 432 people. England is no better, somewhere between 30% & 47% is owned by the aristocracy & gentry (17% is most likely mostly aristocracy but ownership on the land registry is uncertain/undeclared), another 17% is owned by the nouveau riche. Extremely healthy state of affairs
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forkboy84 posted:To go back to my hobby horse, as of 2019, the Scottish government reckon that 57% of rural Scotland (& this is a country that is mostly very rural) is owned by private landowners. Meanwhile the land reformer Andy Wightman estimates about 50% of rural Scotland is owned by just 432 people. England is no better, somewhere between 30% & 47% is owned by the aristocracy & gentry (17% is most likely mostly aristocracy but ownership on the land registry is uncertain/undeclared), another 17% is owned by the nouveau riche. Extremely healthy state of affairs "government"
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bitmap posted:in is in fact the very basis of wealth for much of your aristocracy that's kinda what I was getting at; I think the vast majority of Tories have wealth through bourgeois endeavors instead of any kind of adherence to the First Estate
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/28/britons-need-to-be-less-squeamish-about-drinking-water-from-sewage-says-agency-head ^: tories, bourgeois? perish the thought
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gonadic io posted:^: tories, bourgeois? perish the thought historically they weren't!! the liberals were
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Regarde Aduck posted:have you seen the trajectory the EU is currently on? Top-tier bitter brit posting. I'm grateful at least my family lives in an EU country, it's pretty good all told.
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Is that because of the EU though, or because that particular country has better working state functions?
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-62703858quote:Energy bills: Liz Truss 'rules out' more direct help for all a VAT cut, something not paid on food, will do precisely gently caress all to help people struggling. boy this winter gon be fun
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all libertarians are stupid but Brit libertarians somehow manage to be the most stupid
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guy who keeps incidentally suggesting book burning to solve problems
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CoolCab posted:guy who keeps incidentally suggesting book burning to solve problems
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CoolCab posted:https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-62703858 im sure 4.5 quid per household per day is gonna really solve winter problems in this economic climate
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MikeCrotch posted:Is that because of the EU though, or because that particular country has better working state functions? There's a lot of good things that come with the EU, being able to travel to all the neighbouring countries hassle-free for one, doing whatever you want there same as if you were a citizen. Also the EU has been pushing strongly to curtail corruption and improve minority rights and challenge sexist social attitudes, which is quite nice too all told. Plus all the invisible standards stuff and that, like rivers not being full of sewage and chicken not being full of campylobacter. e: The travelling bit somewhat more useful when you don't have to spend forever waiting at a tunnel or get on a boat or a plane to do so, admittedly. Private Speech has issued a correction as of 15:38 on Aug 28, 2022 |
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i say swears online posted:historically they weren't!! the liberals were true, but after Lord Salisbury was like 'actually, yeah, industrial capitalism is good' the proletariat underneath looked from aristocrat to bourgeois, and from bourgeois to aristocrat, and from aristocrat to bourgeois again: but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Flipswitch posted:https://twitter.com/RichardWellings/status/1563099789625270275?t=tomfA2xKjfoge0H6Q209bw&s=19 lol make london smog great again
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If you have a modern efficient wood stove that burns hot and you know how to use it they don't produce any smoke, it's not a bad option. But in my experience living that life about half the stoves are old as poo poo and just smoke out the whole neighborhood. Remember that brit goon who posted six months ago about how happy he was Boris is in charge because we needed a tough conservative to deal with Russia? I just want to watch a livestream of him receiving and opening his electricity bills each month.
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Aug 28, 2022 18:29
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Why don't the old just sell themselves as fuel to the rich?
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How I feel as an American posting in this thread https://i.imgur.com/IHJebMY.mp4
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Flipswitch posted:https://twitter.com/RichardWellings/status/1563099789625270275?t=tomfA2xKjfoge0H6Q209bw&s=19 get some kids to clean the chimneys too
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Britons need to be ‘less squeamish’ about drinking water from sewage, says agency head Environment Agency chief calls for new attitudes to conserve water and avoid droughts https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/28/britons-need-to-be-less-squeamish-about-drinking-water-from-sewage-says-agency-head quote:“We need to remember where it comes from: when we turn on the tap, what comes out started in a river, lake or aquifer. The more we take, the more we drain those sources and put stress on nature and wildlife.” British man unfamiliar with the concept of rain.
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