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preemptively don't free crowsbeak
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 22:35 |
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make paul an ik and then make him chainprobe crowsbeak
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skipmyseashells posted:hitlerite mods coming in to stop real anti imperialists? you hate George Washington that's right
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I’ll do as the mod asks. I’ll say it shows why Max has left the left and why I have imperialism most easily wins when it has dupes. I guess maybe as Max also looks like he’s a no no to this thread you change the thread name to multipolarista as that is who you all identify with.
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Crowsbeak posted:I’ll do as the mod asks. I’ll say it shows why Max has left the left and why I have imperialism most easily wins when it has dupes. I guess maybe as Max also looks like he’s a no no to this thread you change the thread name to multipolarista as that is who you all identify with. I don’t like to harp on typos or bad grammar but half the poo poo you post is incomprehensible
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Crowsbeak posted:I’ll do as the mod asks. I’ll say it shows why Max has left the left and why I have imperialism most easily wins when it has dupes. I guess maybe as Max also looks like he’s a no no to this thread you change the thread name to multipolarista as that is who you all identify with. like others have said Max is a decent journalist when he's talking about imperialism, he's just got some dumb blind spots I also don't think disagreeing with Max on what is the left makes you an imperialist dupe
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mawarannahr posted:Atatürk was a racist and a fascist in the corporatist sense, and by other definitions. and a murderer of communists. USishly: atta-turk IAMKOREA has issued a correction as of 18:39 on Aug 29, 2022 |
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Not So Fast posted:like others have said Max is a decent journalist when he's talking about imperialism, he's just got some dumb blind spots The implication in crowsbeak's post is that posting is praxis. Lol
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Please stop engaging with crowsbeak.
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wrap it up multipolaristailures
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imo belief or rejection of scientific racism is the main point of difference between fascism and nazism. For fascists every person in the world is like a lump of clay that can be remolded into the image of the national ideal (Italian), whereas Nazis have a clearly identified race hierarchy which is static and can never truly change because national characters are determined by genetics. Italian fascism only became more racist as Mussolini had to rely more and more on the Nazis for their security, and as has already been pointed out, a lot of Italian fascists simply ignored the race stuff altogether. the more esoteric and spiritualistic the rhetoric gets, like Dugin, the more fascist it actually is. because fascism is a feeling more than a clearly defined intellectual thing. but a big problem for fascists any time they get to wield actual power is the inconvenience of this kind of woo-woo talk or 3rd wayist intellectualism. Spirituality is too disconnected from the lived experience of mass religion, and avant-gardist 3rd wayism is too extreme to fit in with the kind of base reactionary resentment that fascists are tapping into. the genuinely scary kind of fascism isn't Dugin talking about the trve kvlt of Eurasia, it's Ron DeSantis aping all of Trump's mannerisms as a play at making the US christian dominionist.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i'm not sure what's funnier, timothy snyder (author of "bloodlands") giving a fellowship at a program he controlled (!) to a wicca-fash goth siren in the ukrainian freikorps' overseas skinhead recruitment department (!!), or the fact that the same wicca-fash siren used to do similar kind of work for dugin's journal and attended conferences in moscow at a program he controlled (!!!) Read your book! *points to Blood Lies*
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Crowsbeak posted:I’ll do as the mod asks. I’ll say it shows why Max has left the left and why I have imperialism most easily wins when it has dupes. I guess maybe as Max also looks like he’s a no no to this thread you change the thread name to multipolarista as that is who you all identify with. This isn't a team sport. The only person identifying with anyone is you.
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The left has had to endure many era defining splits. Anarchist v Communist Sino v Soviet Blumenthal v Norton
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:imo belief or rejection of scientific racism is the main point of difference between fascism and nazism. For fascists every person in the world is like a lump of clay that can be remolded into the image of the national ideal (Italian), whereas Nazis have a clearly identified race hierarchy which is static and can never truly change because national characters are determined by genetics. Italian fascism only became more racist as Mussolini had to rely more and more on the Nazis for their security, and as has already been pointed out, a lot of Italian fascists simply ignored the race stuff altogether. This is the kind of poo poo that made me wonder why Mussolini and the Japanese would ally with Nazi Germany to begin with. They were so scared of communists or even trade unions to the point where the ruling classes of those two countries would rather—instead of giving their workers healthcare—forge an alliance with a hardcore racist nordicist regime espousing literal race science/biology as justification for mass genocide of all non-Germans. The nazis even began to assassinate high profile non-nazi fascists like Dollfuss as early as 1934. Like if nazi germany won the war they would have definitely massacred Italy and Japan like they did in the Man in the High Castle
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MLSM posted:Like if nazi germany won the war they would have definitely massacred Italy and Japan like they did in the Man in the High Castle this had already happened to some degree with the way Nazi Germany treated Italy and Hungary as they surrendered
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MLSM posted:This is the kind of poo poo that made me wonder why Mussolini and the Japanese would ally with Nazi Germany to begin with. They were so scared of communists or even trade unions to the point where the ruling classes of those two countries would rather—instead of giving their workers healthcare—forge an alliance with a hardcore racist nordicist regime espousing literal race science/biology as justification for mass genocide of all non-Germans. The nazis even began to assassinate high profile non-nazi fascists like Dollfuss as early as 1934. The Italians very nearly didn't ally with Nazi Germany. In fact, Germany was supposed to be Italy's own racial enemy after over a thousand years of domination by the HRE and Austria. A lot of Italian fascists resented the Axis, but Mussolini recognized that Hitler was becoming Europe's top dog and they'd have a better chance of reclaiming the Mediterranean with Nazi help than trying to fight them. The race stuff was also a contradiction for every other European member of the Axis, but for them the threat of the Soviet Union felt more existential than the Nazis. Germany was already on the cutting edge of industrialization & modernity when the Nazis took over, and the sheer amount of power that came with it ended up creating its own gravity. Fascism coalesced around the Nazis as orbiters.
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A Grayzone exclusive https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1564726505573388288?s=20&t=9DBVsgPyZWz7mQnbZzUDiw
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MLSM posted:A Grayzone exclusive literally a spy
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Italians very nearly didn't ally with Nazi Germany. In fact, Germany was supposed to be Italy's own racial enemy after over a thousand years of domination by the HRE and Austria. A lot of Italian fascists resented the Axis, but Mussolini recognized that Hitler was becoming Europe's top dog and they'd have a better chance of reclaiming the Mediterranean with Nazi help than trying to fight them.
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https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1565099754492760071?s=20&t=_v6epoHGpmKL6xXlorEy2w
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The democrats! https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1565814745810309120?s=20&t=8GTTJD-oZmwDAHyPycDB3Q
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https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1567288644846714880 haha
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Who was the model or actor or socialite that chatterton interviewed and apparently came away from it completely creeped out by him?
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HashtagGirlboss posted:Who was the model or actor or socialite that chatterton interviewed and apparently came away from it completely creeped out by him? https://twitter.com/emrata/status/1322990361703260167?lang=en
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He's also the guy who wrote in his autobiography that he beat his girlfriend as a teenager because of rap music
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He also has the name of a cartoon skeleton
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https://twitter.com/FiorellaIsabelM/status/1569780020599730176 sorry for bringing back the spectre of Crowsbeak, but this is a person that I wouldn't have guessed would actively push back on PatSoc nonsense, except she did
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It's so obviously loving stupid that even the most gullible can tell. There's no chance in Hell MAGA Communism can ever survive contact with reality. It's pure cope for "communist" teenagers online who want to have revolutionary bonafides despite wanting to bash trans people.
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I saw a good post that pointed out that MAGA Communism is just a find/replace of National Socialism
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MAGA communists being fascist entryists is more likely than not.
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I think grifter is a very overused term especially when talking about internet leftism but it's incredibly funny how blatant Hinkle's grift is.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:MAGA communists being fascist entryists is more likely than not. It seems like a given imo
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I'd like to become a tankie and have my picture next to the word. A famous tankie, maybe?
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aren't all the greyzone peoples very adamant about not being commies/socialists? how does that even work
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grayzone comes at it from the left. ben norton before he exited is a communist and i remember max blumenthal having various books on the shelf in the background that give a nod to the direction, like "red star over china" by edgar snow, a book by maxim litvinov, etc.
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Truga posted:aren't all the greyzone peoples very adamant about not being commies/socialists? how does that even work they're cited a lot by leftists for their work in uncovering Western imperialism and media narratives "greyzone is infowars for tankies" is aimed at alleging that greyzone leads leftists to engage in conspiratorial thinking, though I don't know if the person who made this image was specifically only ever talking about Max Blumenthal's view on COVID, or something else
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"Greyzone publishes left wing conspiracy theories" was a meme long before Max Blumenthal started having weird opinions about covid policy. It's pure smear and always has been.
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 22:35 |
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Yeah the first time I saw "Grayzone is infowars for Tankies" was during 2019, and it had to do with a piece on the White Helmets.
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