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Freakazoid_ posted:lol riker go to your quarters you're drunk Janeway would have done worse
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Aug 25, 2022 15:24
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Mister Facetious posted:It's... Peggy Bundy? Its like Peggy Bundy as a Disco Elysium character
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Aug 25, 2022 16:13
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AI art is OK at character portraits, landscapes and other static scenes but anything active quickly hits the uncanny valley; attempts at porn generate premium nightmare fuel
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Aug 25, 2022 16:58
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Elias_Maluco posted:Its like Peggy Bundy as a Disco Elysium character  Seriously though; first person I thought of was Katey Sagal. Her hair and cheekbones are iconic.
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Aug 25, 2022 17:51
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If we're making insulting visual comparisons to very nice actresses might as well go with Mary Steenburgen
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Aug 25, 2022 18:07
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sebmojo posted:This is interesting, feels like a gross yet inevitable consequence of handing over your music collection to a robot (the economics in the article are also wrong. A 'typical' spotify payout for a song play is around $0.003*, but that's for a typical 3-5 minute song. These 45s snippets are going to be much less than a third of a cent each.) * Spotify's payout system is roughly: - Take all of the subscription money for a month and throw it in a pot - Spotify takes 30% of the pot upfront - Sum up all the total playtime for the month - For every rightsholder, sum up the total playtime for stuff they own - Rightsholders get a fraction of the remaining money pot based on their fraction of the total playtime - Rightsholder paying artist royalties is outside of spotify and up to whatever their individual contracts say
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Aug 25, 2022 19:51
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sebmojo posted:This is interesting, feels like a gross yet inevitable consequence of handing over your music collection to a robot Sounds like he's discovered the 'fake artists' thing from a few years ago. But maybe now it's been upgraded to a python script.
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Aug 25, 2022 20:13
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Oh, this was a very good anime
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Aug 26, 2022 09:32
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sinky posted:Sounds like he's discovered the 'fake artists' thing from a few years ago. But maybe now it's been upgraded to a python script. This ties in slightly with a new development in youtube copyright trolls stealing youtube ad revenue: using spotify to fake "owning" the audio present in a video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia1Li_AtZa0 TL;DW: "Door Stuck" is a very very old (2007) counter-strike meme video. Nothing much to it beyond it being a weird little part of culture to that game's longtime players. Back in July a troll claimed the video for themselves. Now the person who originally uploaded the video still uses the account/channel and uploads so it's not like it was an abandoned video. The weird thing was that the claim was for using someone else's music. Now if you go watch the clip, it's go no music, just game sounds and a dude doing a bad rendition of 'Drop it like it's hot'. But that's not the claimed song: The song is "Stone Door" by "Bob Tik". And what is "Stone Door"? It's literally the audio from the video ripped and reuploaded to Spotify. The troll used a weird little loophole with Spotify and Youtube to create "songs" and backdate them to before the videos in question came out. For Door Stuck he said he "wrote" that song half a year before the original video was published. So he'd take the audio, upload it to spotify as the creator, say he published it at a date before the original video, then use spotify to upload the video to youtube to abuse some metadata marker, then claim the original video using the "evidence" of spotify saying his song came first. Absolute galaxy brain play, but it worked. This guy also targeted a bunch of other videos with the same trick. His gameplan was seemingly just going after videos with decent views, that are over a certain age, that would hopefully be ignored or abandoned so no one would catch on. The good news is that Door Stuck guy got his account and video back miraculously.
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Aug 26, 2022 15:36
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Foxfire_ posted:I don't think this is particularly horrifying. It mostly seems kind of pointless on the part of the producer. Spotify pays out based on time, not plays (one play of a 1min song and a 30min podcast don't pay the same), so someone listening to 10 minutes of variations on a 45s theme pays the same regardless of whether it's in one song container or fourteen. I guess they're trying to game algorithmic similarity so that music left on with nobody actually listening gets stuck in a cycle instead of playing through once? It's hard to think of a human actually listening who wouldn't downvote/skip once it gets old (and if someone does want to do that, more power to them?) This info makes me wonder if the theory (that the writer dismisses) that these are put on by Spotify itself is more possible then if they're just there for some esoteric testing/metric measuring reason.
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Aug 28, 2022 00:09
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PT6A posted:The issue is that the algorithm is making a decision about what constitutes child sexual abuse images, and as far as we know, the criteria is: does the photo/video contain the image of something that looks like or is a naked child? Man, it's got to suck being a machine learning expert and this is what your team is tasked with.
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Aug 28, 2022 18:34
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cmerepaul posted:Man, it's got to suck being a machine learning expert and this is what your team is tasked with. I honestly can't imagine it's possible. I doubt there's a "research" exception on CP laws.
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Aug 28, 2022 18:40
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Also have some cursed Stable Diffusion generated memes 
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Aug 28, 2022 18:44
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Lazy bot isn't even generating them, it's just stealing them from Scottish meme accounts
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Aug 28, 2022 18:52
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Xand_Man posted:I honestly can't imagine it's possible. I doubt there's a "research" exception on CP laws. Didn't Facebook or something get busted recently for keeping that poo poo around for "training" content moderators
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Aug 28, 2022 19:06
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Xand_Man posted:I honestly can't imagine it's possible. I doubt there's a "research" exception on CP laws. idk about the legality but it sure as gently caress doesn't appear to be stopping anyone https://theintercept.com/2020/06/18/facebook-moderator-ptsd-settlement-accenture/
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Aug 28, 2022 19:49
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Tarezax posted:Didn't Facebook or something get busted recently for keeping that poo poo around for "training" content moderators TikTok and the company they pay for moderation yea. They kept a cache of it to train people on what CP is.
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Aug 28, 2022 20:38
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Really seems like one of those things that you don't need to see in order to understand what it is.
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Aug 28, 2022 22:36
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raifield posted:Really seems like one of those things that you don't need to see in order to understand what it is. Seriously. Not to simplify too much, but most people know what both of those things are. When you see both together that's the problem. Done. No examples needed.
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Aug 28, 2022 22:40
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raifield posted:Really seems like one of those things that you don't need to see in order to understand what it is.
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Aug 29, 2022 15:40
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cat botherer posted:Somebody has to label a significant number of training examples for it to be able to discriminate, not really any way around it. These are human content moderators. There's no algorithm to train.
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Aug 29, 2022 15:43
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Baronash posted:These are human content moderators. There's no algorithm to train. Of course there is. And the human moderators are training it in real time.
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Aug 29, 2022 17:01
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I don't even know how you solve this problem. AI can't really do it accurately, and I think it should be illegal as hell to subject employees to execution videos and child abuse videos all day.
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Aug 29, 2022 17:11
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Tuxedo Gin posted:I don't even know how you solve this problem. AI can't really do it accurately, and I think it should be illegal as hell to subject employees to execution videos and child abuse videos all day. It should, and it is documented to cause severe trauma in the employees, usually contractors, who do the job.
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Aug 29, 2022 17:30
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It’s mostly about support and moderation. You don’t expose any one person to too much of it at a time, and you give plenty of training and health resources to help them cope. The problem is that content moderators are 99% outsourced so lol at them getting meaningful benefits. I think Google and Facebook probably do better than other companies at this; TikTok is definitely full-on not giving a poo poo.
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Aug 29, 2022 17:36
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There are loads of articles about Facebook moderators. They are outside contractors, extremely poorly paid, extremely poorly trained and supported, and many claim to have not known they'd be watching murder and rape all day when they took the job.
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Aug 29, 2022 17:45
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But it also seems like advertising the job as “you will be watching rape and murder all day” might attract the wrong sort of people
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Aug 29, 2022 18:19
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I think the solution is on the supply side. like imo addation to account creation fees, maybe fees for content uploading? (maybe even shitpostting??). like if you want to get a vanity book/fanfic/manifesto out you have to find some way to pay for it or somehow get freebies/freeium for it.
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Aug 29, 2022 18:25
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PhazonLink posted:I think the solution is on the supply side. Supply side poo poo posting And yeah, it's depressing as gently caress.
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Aug 29, 2022 20:35
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PhazonLink posted:like imo addation to account creation fees, maybe fees for content uploading? (maybe even shitpostting??). That would destroy the social media giants' business model. Good. I'll see you on alt.swedish-chef.bork.bork.bork. Macht kaputt was euch kaputt macht.
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Aug 29, 2022 20:37
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PhazonLink posted:
The entire point of a social network is encouraging engagement via a cycle of posting and consumption. Content and communication paywalls are in diametric opposition to that. Monetization is best done through methods that exploit the need to consume content, like targeted advertising, and paying to remove advertising, or enhancing individual expression/brand loyalty (avatars and poo poo). Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Aug 29, 2022 |
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Aug 29, 2022 22:44
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Mister Facetious posted:The entire point of a social network is encouraging engagement via a cycle of posting and consumption. Content and communication paywalls are in diametric opposition to that. I think everyone here is aware of that, and destroying social media is in fact an explicit goal.
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Aug 30, 2022 22:57
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Crain posted:This ties in slightly with a new development in youtube copyright trolls stealing youtube ad revenue: using spotify to fake "owning" the audio present in a video. This is far from the worst thing someone could do on the internet, but I'm really loving tired of every last online space being filled to the brim with con-artists, scammers, influencers, "content" "creators" and so on. Just tons and tons of folks trying to shove their bullshit down the rest of our throats just to make a quick buck.
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Aug 31, 2022 00:03
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Solkanar512 posted:This is far from the worst thing someone could do on the internet, but I'm really loving tired of every last online space being filled to the brim with con-artists, scammers, influencers, "content" "creators" and so on. Just tons and tons of folks trying to shove their bullshit down the rest of our throats just to make a quick buck. But but, they have to maintain their "brand"!
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Aug 31, 2022 00:06
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YouTube, especially Shorts, is filled to the brim with content-mills churning out factually incorrect "did you knows", blatant IP theft, and worst of all, potentially dangerous home and cooking "hacks"
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Aug 31, 2022 00:22
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Solkanar512 posted:This is far from the worst thing someone could do on the internet, but I'm really loving tired of every last online space being filled to the brim with con-artists, scammers, influencers, "content" "creators" and so on. Just tons and tons of folks trying to shove their bullshit down the rest of our throats just to make a quick buck. It's not even limited to the internet We've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty
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Aug 31, 2022 00:30
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All under regulated spaces are overtaken by bad actors.
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Aug 31, 2022 00:34
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I think everyone here is aware of that, and destroying social media is in fact an explicit goal. 
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Aug 31, 2022 00:46
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I finally completely deep sixed my FB account last weekend and already feel better. I never even joined up until like 5 years ago after my divorce and, while it was cool tracking down some old friends and joining a few groups I liked, I just never got the appeal and rarely hosed with it. It was very useful for finding out what my friends ate for dinner on a particular evening, what their christmas tree looked like and what concert they went to but there must be something wrong with me because I did not care. This is even before we get into the hosed up political divides and the weird touchy feely dynamics with getting unfriended and poo poo like that. gently caress Facebook and good riddance
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