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Saukkis posted:I guess that largely depends on if the goal is a rave party with strangers or a family gathering. I feel Facebook is closer to the latter and Metaverse is probably intended as an extension of that. Do people have large amount of FB contacts they've met in FB? Personally I would never accept a friend request from someone who wasn't part of "friends and family" already. Shopping in VR would probably be cool if they fully committed to it and scanned in accurate 3D models of their products. It's a lot of work though, and guessing most stores wouldn't go through with it. Judging by how good most web store interfaces are, guessing they would just get the intern to model a few representative items that never get updated, and force you to look at the same jpegs from the website one at a time with an even slower and clunkier interface.
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If we're lucky they_ll design a Small Medium Large generic shirt (not actually anything like the measurements of the IRL shirt) then do a texture scan of their in-store Nirvana/Anime/Nerd shirt and layer that in the generic shirt.
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That gives me a great idea for a software project; Amazon VR. Entirely seated experience that serves as a metaphor for the whole VR shopping concept. You spawn at a kitchen table in VR, with a VR laptop in front of you. On the VR laptop you go to Amazon.com using the fully functional VR browser to just shop online as normal, but in VR. The laptop has a fully functional web browser for see. Except it's harder to manipulate because you're typing and mousing using VR controllers, and of course there's no password manager or anything so you gotta flip between VR and RL to even log in. You can look out the window in VR to see a low poly delivery van crawling closer inch by inch (that's the delivery progress, you see) and your delivery notification is in the form of a quiet knock at the door in VR. You can use passthrough to awkwardly retrieve your package from your IRL front door without ever leaving VR 
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They’re aiming to make the meta verse just a collision of Rec Room and Amazon.
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explosivo posted:I went back to VTOL VR today to finish the tutorials and goddamn the autopilot is a game changer, I should've known something like that was in there but it's great being able to hover miles away and target tanks with the FLIR camera to launch rockets at. Tryin'a get my friend who bought the same bundle to give this an earnest try so we could do some of the co-op missions because that sounds awesome. If you've not already got it, get the ah-94 dlc. Flying an attack chopper with the airwolf theme tune playing over the speakers is great fun, even better in co-op with both seats filled.
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Trainee PornStar posted:If you've not already got it, get the ah-94 dlc. I played the first actual missions last night and the whole time I kept thinking how sick this would be with two of us in the AH-94. Might have to make that happen..
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Beastie posted:They’re aiming to make the meta verse just a collision of Rec Room and Amazon. Love to have a child shout the n-word at me while I buy 9 volt batteries.
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Unrelated, I am beyond stoked for the hl2 VR release. Gonna try to get through hl1 VR before the release date It’ll be interesting to see how they handle the airboat and buggy, but I have faith in their abilities
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Love to have a child shout the n-word at me while I buy 9 volt batteries. but enough about Walmart, we're talking VR
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explosivo posted:I played the first actual missions last night and the whole time I kept thinking how sick this would be with two of us in the AH-94. Might have to make that happen.. In case you didnt know there is an mp3 player, look on the lower panel to your left. To set your music up.. in the the main vtol folder, there is a subfolder called 'radiomusic' just drop your mp3 files there to play them in game.
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Trainee PornStar posted:In case you didnt know there is an mp3 player, look on the lower panel to your left. I did see this and that rules, I wish I could link it up to a stream or something though because I don't have any mp3's anymore :'( I also just discovered last time that you can adjust the joystick/throttle to better suit how you're sitting. The tip I saw to rest your hand on your knee as you use the joystick really helped and being able to dial in the exact position of the stick to be where it felt like it should be is fantastic. Really itching to get back to it at work today 
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Aug 29, 2022 18:07
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explosivo posted:I did see this and that rules, I wish I could link it up to a stream or something though because I don't have any mp3's anymore :'( https://vtolvr-mods.com/mod/vtzgco5u/
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Aug 29, 2022 18:56
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Trainee PornStar posted:I've no idea how well it works but it might be worth a try. Oh drat that's a good idea. I'll give it a shot, thanks!
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Unrelated, I am beyond stoked for the hl2 VR release. Gonna try to get through hl1 VR before the release date I saw it mentioned that there will be a third person option to reduce sickness on vehicles.
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I see this isnt the usual Dr Beef team doing this. I am slightly less faithful now, but I really want to play HL2 in VR dammit. I nearly paid $400 for those Razer hand tracking things back in the CV1 days so I could play HL1 in VR, thats how excited I was/am for it
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Aug 29, 2022 21:10
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I see this isnt the usual Dr Beef team doing this. This IIRC was the original WormSlayer team that made the version for the Razer hand trackers. explosivo posted:I went back to VTOL VR today to finish the tutorials and goddamn the autopilot is a game changer, I should've known something like that was in there but it's great being able to hover miles away and target tanks with the FLIR camera to launch rockets at. Tryin'a get my friend who bought the same bundle to give this an earnest try so we could do some of the co-op missions because that sounds awesome. Oddly I think the actual VTOL aircraft in the game is nowhere near as good or fun as either the Not F-18 and the Not F-35 and definitely not as fun as the Not-Apache, highly recommend you give those a go. At least, I assume you mean you're using that because you mention hovering. The Skies of Deception campaign that ports a few missions from Ace Combat X does a good job of giving you reasons to try a variety of weapons and I think it's co-op compatible?
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Oddly I think the actual VTOL aircraft in the game is nowhere near as good or fun as either the Not F-18 and the Not F-35 and definitely not as fun as the Not-Apache, highly recommend you give those a go. At least, I assume you mean you're using that because you mention hovering. I have only used the first VTOL jet while figuring out how to play the game, that's good to hear the others are more fun/better. I'm going to have to get this drat Apache DLC too 
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Love to have a child shout the n-word at me while I buy 9 volt batteries. DO YOU KNOW DEH WAY?
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explosivo posted:I have only used the first VTOL jet while figuring out how to play the game, that's good to hear the others are more fun/better. I'm going to have to get this drat Apache DLC too They’re also simpler and easier! The VTOL aircraft is weird because you can’t exclusively fly that as a plane, especially if you run any of its campaigns. The Not F-35 has VTOL capabilities but is also a fiendishly competent normal fighter jet, and its autopilot/assisted flight system is really useful once you figure it out.
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All of the vtol-vr vehicles are a ton of fun. I wish there was an official apache campaign but at least there are some real good workshop campaigns/missions. Playing with friends is a ton of fun; There's an apache one that was pretty fun and has real audio and there's another that's a random advance one where each wing is restricted to only weapons of their role, so first you have to clear the skies with an AA loadout, then switch to anti-ground, and then a heli to cleanup small targets in the city hiding between buildings. Each "zone" you clear moves the carrier up and there are 3 zones to clear. I enjoy both playing solo and with friends, I find the apache really difficult to fly+aim with just one person, it's clear it was designed as a tandem vehicle. There's tons of hours of fun on the workshop for all vehicles, both solo and multi.
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And speaking of fun, holy crap is into the radius a fun game. Basically, it's call of pripyat VR. I was expecting way more jank and while I can see some vestiges of annoyance (manually cleaning guns is kinda novel the first time but quickly gets old) at some point they patched in ways to avoid most of it. The balance/design is a little weird because I'm absolutely drowning in supplies on normal difficulty and am never short on cash to buy the best guns. I bring home so much stuff I thought I would have to hoard but instead I just throw it in the 'recycler' to space space and convert everything to P+ ammo for my M9. Overall the game is just a ton of fun though and I really enjoy the open world aspect of it compared to the more curated experience of say HL Alyx. If I was a Dev I'd have tweaked stuff a bit more, like the intention is to feel the scarcity and make it difficult but the maps are small enough and you don't get tired so every expedition feels like a short one - if you leave an hour before dawn you can typically finish up and just walk home every time. The design and levels are cool, I like the pacing and gradual increase of danger, but I'm really surprised they didn't take a page from dark souls and other games where you have to walk the long way and then you can open door shortcuts - the factory would be the perfect place for stuff like that. The reset is a cool mechanic that keeps things a bit fresher and after about 10 hours in I feel like I'm probably 2/3rds the way through. I'd like a bit more of a reason to use scrounged weapons+ammo since even though weapons are gated by "security level" you can get the best pistol in the game fairly early and if you buy it you can just immediately kit it out because missions pay so much. P+ ammo in the M9 is incredibly strong and there's no need to scrounge and use whatever you find since you can just sell everything and immediately buy the best thing in the shop. Maybe things will get trickier late game but the early+mid has been a (still very fun) breeze.
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I really need to learn what missiles to bring along with me on a VTOL VR mission and how they all lock onto targets/fire. I feel like most of the time I have targets acquired in the TGP, everything is armed and ready to go and then nothing fires when I pull the trigger.
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Bhodi posted:And speaking of fun, holy crap is into the radius a fun game. I tried that this weekend. It seemed really cool. I was playing through the tutorial, walking around a freakish doomscape with a teacup in one hand and a saucer in the other. Then it had me pick up a flashlight and showed me how to change grip and suddenly it hit hard as hell. Cold sweat, nausea, and I drat near crapped my pants. I've never had any trouble with VR that couldn't be chalked up to extended use but something about the dark, cramped room and the CSI flashlight just shut my brain down and I had migraines the rest of the afternoon. I was liking it up until that point though, hoping to go back to it another time
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Maldraedior posted:I tried that this weekend. It seemed really cool. I was playing through the tutorial, walking around a freakish doomscape with a teacup in one hand and a saucer in the other. Then it had me pick up a flashlight and showed me how to change grip and suddenly it hit hard as hell. Cold sweat, nausea, and I drat near crapped my pants. I've never had any trouble with VR that couldn't be chalked up to extended use but something about the dark, cramped room and the CSI flashlight just shut my brain down and I had migraines the rest of the afternoon. I was liking it up until that point though, hoping to go back to it another time
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that infinite Second Life VR experience is kinda what NEOS VR wants to be. shame the CEO got cryptobrained and basically the entire dev-team revolted against him, that's still being sorted out so there hasn't been any platform updates for about a year now? at least the loving annoying cryptobros all left when the neos coin crashed alongside bitcoin. Here's hoping they untangle themselves from the whole crypto thing, the rest of the platform's great fun for just making weird poo poo. (i have a wand that shouts skadeedle skedoolde your dick is now a noodle and spawns a wiggly noodley thing at the target's crotch for example)
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No idea of how trustworthy is this https://www.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/comments/x1f4ko/references_to_the_quest_and_quest_2_were_found_in/ 
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Epic already has VR games on the store so I assume this is about VR Fortnite?
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Can't wait to do The Carlton irl to do it in Fortfight
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explosivo posted:Epic already has VR games on the store so I assume this is about VR Fortnite? Yes, they say he is a fornite leaker in the thread.
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Fortnite VR sounds cool, but they better do it the right way and keep the VR players in their own multiplayer pool. Someone has to give Pop1 a kick in the rear end, may as well be the 8 billion pound gorilla in the room that is Fortnite
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I think it's interesting because we'll, with all the crossovers, the special events and the concerts, it's closest thing to the Metaverse.
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Honestly yeah I've been playing Fortnite again lately and I'd be 100% down with VR Fortnite
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I hate to put too much of a damper on things, but up until the latest UE5 update, vr ugins were enabled by default in all UE5/4 projects. They just didn't activate unless certain commands were sent. This could just mean they have started to work on improving ue5's vr support and forgot to disable it in the fortnite branch. Or they could be be doing vr fortnite, just that it is not the only answer
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explosivo posted:I really need to learn what missiles to bring along with me on a VTOL VR mission and how they all lock onto targets/fire. I feel like most of the time I have targets acquired in the TGP, everything is armed and ready to go and then nothing fires when I pull the trigger. You said TGP so I assume air-to-ground so you probably mean the AGM-65. There's something called "Action" configured in the weapon menu, and you can set single or double action. It's double by default so you point your craft vaguely at your target while holding the trigger, when the circle zooms and acquires your target. Then, as long as your target ">" is within the elongated 6 you're in range and you hit the switch weapons button (B on my rift) to actually fire the rocket. If it's laser guided you have to keep your TGP until it hits because the laser is pointing at whatever your TGP is looking at. If it's fire and forget like the AGM-65, the target is already sent to the missile and you can select other targets while the missile is on it's way (and fire at them in succession). Bhodi fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Aug 30, 2022 |
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Bhodi posted:Vtol-vr really needs a cheatsheet how-to on what weapons to use when, how and the distances of each. I might put one together someday. Hmmm okay maybe I wasn't aiming enough at my target. I was just trying to throw missiles at a column of tanks like 6 miles away so maybe it wasn't in range either. It's a bit overwhelming as a newbie to see the loadout screen and have to know what to take, so I usually bring stacks of AGM's and some bombs or something then the cannon which I usually rely on anyway once I realize I can't fire my rockets, lol. I also bought the AH-94 and ran through the tutorials and part of a mission (before flipping over and crashing), seems good but probably way better with a second. If you're flying those solo do you typically sit in the front seat or back? or switch between the two depending on what you need at the time?
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explosivo posted:Hmmm okay maybe I wasn't aiming enough at my target. I was just trying to throw missiles at a column of tanks like 6 miles away so maybe it wasn't in range either. It's a bit overwhelming as a newbie to see the loadout screen and have to know what to take, so I usually bring stacks of AGM's and some bombs or something then the cannon which I usually rely on anyway once I realize I can't fire my rockets, lol. The gunner has the 3rd middle screen but you can't use it - you need to be constantly adjusting the collective and yaw/roll to stay level and on course. That's also very hard to do while also doing the TGP (called TADS in the heli) stuff. Often you'll just have to put it in autopilot while you mess with the targeting, even if your missiles auto-home without direct TADS targeting and you can slave your gun to your head it's still really, really hard. A common maneuver is to hover behind terrain, pop up to fire and then duck back down to break SAM line of sight. Bhodi fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Aug 30, 2022 |
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Just a fun in-the-wild thing, I’m at the NISAR Community Workshop (a conference with a few hundred people for a NASA/ISRO satellite going up in a year or so) and after lunch there’s an AR thing happening, they tell me JPL developed the space, uses MS kit, let’s us see the satellite at full size and interact with it and such, gonna try that out for sure.  We were enjoying watching the two techs setting things up, slowly wandering around the lobby poking at the air, but I’ll refrain from posting their picture. Anyhow that’s my story, got this stuff irl. e: I did it once they opened, it was pretty cool to see the full size satellite floating in the lobby. The solar panels reached all the way from the front windows, into the conference space adjacent. Good detail, down to wiring bundles and such. The unfurled main reflector up by the ceiling really demonstrated how immense it gets once it’s all opened up. And that there were 10 headsets all operating in the same space, we could all examine the same model together. A+, great use of AR! Bad Munki fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Aug 30, 2022 |
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Fortnite VR sounds cool, but they better do it the right way and keep the VR players in their own multiplayer pool. They wont. Phones play against consoles against PC against people with it installed on samsung fridges.
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EbolaIvory posted:They wont. Last time I played Fortnite there was a bunch of matchmaking filters so you could go into controller only or KB+M only etc. I expect they'd add the same option so you could be VR players only or go up against everyone if you felt you were good enough.
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