Aviation Megathread 10: I'm dumb as shit

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e.pilot: Nov 20, 2011; sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

Rolo posted:

Got the �congrats� email. Which airplane is still under review.

welcome to the party

# ? Aug 24, 2022 19:05

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# ? May 29, 2024 02:41

e.pilot: Nov 20, 2011; sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

The Slaughter posted:

Congrats!
We have a big vacancy and I'm sitting torn (as I do every vacancy) over whether to stay flying the piece of poo poo 737 or move to the 757/767.

756 pros: mostly go to London, 2 legs, domestic sucks and international is cool. Get paid to nap on the plane. Cockpit not so loving tiny. Approach speed isn't 167 kts.

Cons: might not hold a line in winter, global reserve is bad here, schedules look potentially exhausting, some places the van ride is like an hour plus you've got an earlier report time so basically waking up at 1am home time to go fly all day. Plane breaks down all the loving time.

Seriously can't decide what to do.

lol the 76 is chill af, easiest in the fleet by miles, bid it for sure

I�m tired of chasing the moving goalposts of 76 upgrade that�s been 2 years away for the last 4 years, and pulling the trigger on 74 FO in November in the hopes of a spring class date

# ? Aug 24, 2022 19:07

Rolo: Nov 16, 2005; Hmm, what have we here?

Did someone say 76? Cause they offered the 76�

# ? Aug 25, 2022 15:48

Animal: Apr 8, 2003

Rolo posted:

Did someone say 76? Cause they offered the 76�

Best fleet, they saved you from yourself

# ? Aug 25, 2022 16:11

Kraftwerk: Aug 13, 2011; i do not have 10,000 bircoins, please stop asking

You can take e.pilot's place when he leaves.

# ? Aug 25, 2022 16:33

Rolo: Nov 16, 2005; Hmm, what have we here?

They specifically told me I was applying for his spot.

Animal posted:

Best fleet, they saved you from yourself

Now that the fleet and offer are on the table, can you guys tell me anything/everything about life on the 6? I�d be commuting from CLT so at least I�m super close to a huge airport.

# ? Aug 25, 2022 17:11

MrYenko: Jun 18, 2012; #2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Big, two engines, I think Atlas paints theirs white.

# ? Aug 25, 2022 18:48

Butt Reactor: Oct 6, 2005; Even in zero gravity, you're an asshole.

MrYenko posted:

Big, two engines, I think Atlas paints theirs white.

Isn�t that like 90% of 767 operators :confused:

I don�t think giant has any 764s, but it�s kindy wonky going back and forth from 80s flight deck to MFDs on our fleet, since we operate 763 and 764s :pwn:

# ? Aug 25, 2022 22:50

e.pilot: Nov 20, 2011; sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

Rolo posted:

They specifically told me I was applying for his spot.

Now that the fleet and offer are on the table, can you guys tell me anything/everything about life on the 6? I�d be commuting from CLT so at least I�m super close to a huge airport.

it�s great, I barely fly 300hrs in a year, good mix of domestic and international, legs aren�t horribly long compared to the 74 or triple, huge variety of airports, I�ve been to 55 unique airports in 4 years

that said upgrade has been 2 years away for 4 years so I�m gonna jump to the 74 for a bit to mix things up and make a little extra money

# ? Aug 26, 2022 02:08

Rolo: Nov 16, 2005; Hmm, what have we here?

My current situation is like 200 per year but it�s all SIC on this plane and they�re talking about putting it on 135. I like where I go but my pay, inflation considering, stinks.

# ? Aug 26, 2022 03:13

e.pilot: Nov 20, 2011; sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

probably 1/3rd of that 300hr is sleeping

I make 6 figs to travel the world and ride my bike and take two full unbroken months off every year

# ? Aug 26, 2022 18:40

cigaw: Sep 13, 2012

Cool video on the J58, the SR-71 engine. One of the old Pratt engineers talks shop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJrXUh0eZjw

Also, any good resources out there to help with airliner identification? I can mostly tell Airbus and Boeing apart but I'm getting tired of asking my captains which one we're supposed to follow when looking at 7 different airplanes coming down the taxiway.

# ? Aug 30, 2022 05:56

azflyboy: Nov 9, 2005

cigaw posted:

Cool video on the J58, the SR-71 engine. One of the old Pratt engineers talks shop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJrXUh0eZjw

Also, any good resources out there to help with airliner identification? I can mostly tell Airbus and Boeing apart but I'm getting tired of asking my captains which one we're supposed to follow when looking at 7 different airplanes coming down the taxiway.

This may help: https://opennav.com/airliner-identification-quiz

For smaller airplanes, where the engines and wings are located makes it relatively easy to tell manufacturers apart.

Engines under the wings? Embraer 175/195. If it's got rounded flight deck windows, it's an A220.

Engines on the tail? Probably a CRJ, maybe an Embraer 145.

For twin turboprops, if the main landing gear is on the fuselage, it's an ATR, if they're on the engine nacelles, it's a Dash 8.

Telling the 737 and A319/20/21 apart is pretty easy by looking at the engines and landing gear, since the 737 nacelles are much closer to the ground, and the main gear are much shorter than the Airbus family. From the front, the 737 nacelles also have a "chipmunk cheeks" appearance, where they bulge out at the bottom sides, whereas Airbus engines are round.

The 757/767 can be differentiated because the 757 looks significantly skinnier than the 767, and the 777 is big enough that it's hard to mistake for anything else.

Telling the 787 and A350 apart is a bit trickier, but I use the wingtips, since the A350 wing curves up to being nearly vertical at the tip, whereas the 787 is flatter at the tip.

azflyboy fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Aug 30, 2022

# ? Aug 30, 2022 08:18

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Surely 777 vs a330 is a thing? 777 has 3 pairs on each main gear, a330 has two. The 777�s wedge vs cone shaped tailcone is pretty unique too.

# ? Aug 30, 2022 14:34

MrYenko: Jun 18, 2012; #2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Cockpit windows are a pretty good tell, too. Manufacturers tend to use extremely similar windscreen/sideview layouts between models. The windows on a DC-10 are nearly the exact same shape and layout as the windows on a C-17.

# ? Aug 30, 2022 14:36

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hobbesmaster posted:

Surely 777 vs a330 is a thing? 777 has 3 pairs on each main gear, a330 has two. The 777�s wedge vs cone shaped tailcone is pretty unique too.

I usually have problems with A330 vs 767 since they seem like the most generic planes in both company's lineups

# ? Aug 30, 2022 14:40

e.pilot: Nov 20, 2011; sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

330 has airbus cockpit windows and a pointier tail, and more space between the axles on the trucks on the mains, and tiny little winglets

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# ? Aug 30, 2022 14:50

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Shouldn�t you not rely on winglets because they vary? Still, I think A330s are the only ones with those weird flatter ones?

# ? Aug 30, 2022 15:16

CBJSprague24: Dec 5, 2010; another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

azflyboy posted:

Engines on the tail? Probably a CRJ, maybe an Embraer 145.

Telling the 787 and A350 apart is a bit trickier, but I use the wingtips, since the A350 wing curves up to being nearly vertical at the tip, whereas the 787 is flatter at the tip.

ERJs look like flying darts, the CRJ series is bigger around.

The A350 has winglets, while the 787 has raked wingtips.

# ? Aug 30, 2022 16:35

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e.pilot posted:

more space between the axles on the trucks on the mains

Ok I LOLed in this, definitely my favorite one

# ? Aug 30, 2022 17:39

e.pilot: Nov 20, 2011; sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

Bob A Feet posted:

Ok I LOLed in this, definitely my favorite one

I�m serious :colbert:

# ? Aug 30, 2022 23:03

Beef Of Ages: Jan 11, 2003; Your dumb is leaking.

e.pilot posted:

I�m serious

You're also technically correct (which is the best kind of correct :smugbert:

) but I would submit that it is way, way more esoteric than the common "A330ceo has the angled winglet" approach.

# ? Aug 30, 2022 23:06

e.pilot: Nov 20, 2011; sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

even as a 76 driver I always look at the wheels first to tell lol

# ? Aug 30, 2022 23:13

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

e.pilot posted:

I�m serious

When I was spending hours plane watching on suddenly very long layovers in Narita (rip the best sky clubs for plane watching) looking at the mains was always the best way to �reset� your scale of size. After watching A380s, 744s and 777s move around you see a 767 and think �wait how does Aeromexico fly a 737 to Japan�. OHHHH�

# ? Aug 30, 2022 23:30

Potato Salad: Oct 23, 2014; nobody cares

e.pilot posted:

330 has airbus cockpit windows and a pointier tail, and more space between the axles on the trucks on the mains, and tiny little winglets

e:

is it most most straightforward to see whether the tail of the fuselage remains flat at top vs angles down?

# ? Aug 31, 2022 01:06

Beef Of Ages: Jan 11, 2003; Your dumb is leaking.

Potato Salad posted:

is it most most straightforward to see whether the tail of the fuselage remains flat at top vs angles down?

It's like the arrow in Fedex.

# ? Aug 31, 2022 01:46

0toShifty: Aug 21, 2005; 0 to Stiffy?

e.pilot posted:

330 has airbus cockpit windows and a pointier tail, and more space between the axles on the trucks on the mains, and tiny little winglets

Got them airbussy windows

# ? Aug 31, 2022 01:48

Warbird: May 23, 2012; America's Favorite Dumbass

If you were worried that the airlines being fucky was a US specific thing, ANA just scheduled my in-laws for a connector flight that leaves about 5 hours before they get to Tokyo. So it�s alive and well everywhere apparently.

One little trick to halve your transcontinental trip time that the man doesn�t want you to know about!

# ? Aug 31, 2022 03:31

LostCosmonaut: Feb 15, 2014

feel like this is your guys' kind of meme

# ? Sep 2, 2022 05:14

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

# ? Sep 2, 2022 16:43

mactheknife: Jul 20, 2004; THE JOLLY CANDY-LIKE BUTTON

0toShifty posted:

Got them airbussy windows

# ? Sep 2, 2022 16:49

cigaw: Sep 13, 2012

Thank you all for the tips and resources. Looking forward to being able to identify more airplanes and not feel like an idiot lol

LostCosmonaut posted:

feel like this is your guys' kind of meme

Pretty sure this was born in the skywest fb meme page. It's as beautiful now as the first time I saw it.

# ? Sep 2, 2022 17:52

Butt Reactor: Oct 6, 2005; Even in zero gravity, you're an asshole.

cigaw posted:

Thank you all for the tips and resources. Looking forward to being able to identify more airplanes and not feel like an idiot lol

Pretty sure this was born in the skywest fb meme page. It's as beautiful now as the first time I saw it.

Say what you want about the Mormon Air Force, but they produce some top notch meme content :patriot:

# ? Sep 2, 2022 23:04

azflyboy: Nov 9, 2005

Butt Reactor posted:

Say what you want about the Mormon Air Force, but they produce some top notch meme content

You're not supposed to call LDS members Mormons any more, so I think it's now the LDSWaffe.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 02:11

MrYenko: Jun 18, 2012; #2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

azflyboy posted:

You're not supposed to call LDS members Mormons any more, so I think it's now the LDSWaffe.

Wait, seriously?

I can�t keep up with this poo poo.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 02:12

azflyboy: Nov 9, 2005

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/17/us/mormon-church-name-trnd/index.html

poo poo. Article says we can't use LDS either, so I'm going to Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints Hell now.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 02:19

Arson Daily: Aug 11, 2003

azflyboy posted:

You're not supposed to call LDS members Mormons any more, so I think it's now the LDSWaffe.

Is it still the book of mormon? Then they're still Mormons :colbert:

# ? Sep 3, 2022 05:40

KodiakRS: Jul 11, 2012

I know we joke about Sky West being The Airline of the Church Formerly Known as the Latter Day Saints but this is literally their most recent pilot newhire class. These guys (and 2 gals) are just a black nametag and a blue book away from the people who used to knock on my door every Saturday morning:

# ? Sep 4, 2022 20:12

cigaw: Sep 13, 2012

That�s the mandatory dress code for day one of training when they take your employee picture.

But yes, it was hilarious walking from the hotel to flight safety in a seemingly never-ending mormon cosplay parade.

# ? Sep 4, 2022 20:41

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# ? May 29, 2024 02:41

two_beer_bishes: Jun 27, 2004

The employee pic where they simply place epaulettes on your shoulder for as long as it takes to get a lovely crew photo. They accidentally put captain stripes on one guy in my class, still not sure why they even had them on hand for a new hire class.

# ? Sep 4, 2022 21:09

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