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OwlFancier posted:knobhead? Yeah I’ve just never seen it censored and it threw me. What a knobhead.   Guinea pigs and a handsome dog I met yesterday for the top of the page. Sanford fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Sep 2, 2022 |
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Sanford posted:What on earth is K*******D? Knighted
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Having had to take a lot of taxis this week for various reasons I've had a load of unprompted chats about bills and electricity. Its fascinating how saying capitalism is the problem gets responses like you are a swivel eyed loon (i wonder if that phrase is ableist now honestly) But if you say "greed" and "bosses getting huge bonuses" everyone immediately agrees. The unwillingness to engage with the problem being a system that doesn't just encorage greed but demands it is infuriating. I'm guessing because you can at least see a path to fixing a "bad apple". If the problem is the whole system and you're a normal worker your options are quite limited other than drinking or joining a union. In other news someone posted an anonymous question to management about what unions we recognise. Got word for word the exact lovely response about in x years our people have trusted us to run a good business blahblah, question never been raised. No need to have a third party causing delays, costs and "them and us" which my last company gave convincing us to form an internal council who couldn't be fired instead. They then tied them up in red tape, forced them to come in and sit in an empty room or be fired til they all quit. Then did massive layoffs
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Mebh posted:Its fascinating how saying capitalism is the problem gets responses like you are a swivel eyed loon (i wonder if that phrase is ableist now honestly) Comes back to the old saying The problems are bad, but the causes? The causes are very good.
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Honestly the post about unions pisses me off so loving much. How goddamn hard is it to say something like "We don't have an official union but if you feel you need the backing there is no issue to joining one and we can help you with whatever issues you might have if you'd rather do that, we absolutely support the rights of workers to a fair wage and believe we provide one, but we're always willing to listen and improve"" We are going through the biggest cost of living and "rich vs poor" crisis since the industrial revolution right now, party politics is useless and capitalism is more powerful than ever before controlling peoples wages and lives so the ONLY lever workers have for a fair, guaranteed deal is collective action. Flat out shooting down even the thought of what unions we SUPPORT. not even about joining one really sends a terrible message and it's the kind of thing you'd only say if unions were anathema to you and you genuinely didn't believe in workers rights, so actually confronting the fuckers about it is just a terrible idea. I really do like my company, they've treated me far better than anywhere else, but I'm extremely senior and know what I'm doing and am drat near indispensable. I'm still far too loving scared to even mention the word union or be political because the last time I saw people doing that a company, christ the lengths they went to to fire people. Plus honestly if I started to even rock the boat like here, it's pretty goddamn easy to find out who I am from my posts. I really hate capitalism and corporations. I just want to make games that are fun.
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Mebh posted:Its fascinating how saying capitalism is the problem gets responses like you are a swivel eyed loon (i wonder if that phrase is ableist now honestly) I think it's because there's been a successful propaganda effort over the last century or so to separate the things Capitalism leads to (overt corporate greed, profit at the expense of everything else, concentrated wealth, landlord price gouging, etc) from the system of Capitalism in the minds of most people, and to rebrand any alternative to Capitalism as insane nonsense where you're not allowed to own anything and you have to line up in the rain for your weekly ration of bread and cheese, then go home to your cold featureless-concrete-cube apartment and eat it in silence. Saying the issue is Capitalism, to most people, implies "therefore we should live like you imagine things were in Soviet Russia, which you have interchangeably been told is Communism/Marxism/Socialism but was probably State Capitalism instead.", while actually people on the ground have had the same complaints for loving ages, they've just been trained to see them as separate unrelated issues which have to be tackled one at a time, very slowly.
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Surprise T Rex posted:insane nonsense where you're not allowed to own anything and you have to line up in the rain for your weekly ration of bread and cheese, then go home to your cold featureless-concrete-cube apartment and eat it in silence.
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Surprise T Rex posted:I think it's because there's been a successful propaganda effort over the last century or so to separate the things Capitalism leads to (overt corporate greed, profit at the expense of everything else, concentrated wealth, landlord price gouging, etc) from the system of Capitalism in the minds of most people, and to rebrand any alternative to Capitalism as insane nonsense where you're not allowed to own anything and you have to line up in the rain for your weekly ration of bread and cheese, then go home to your cold featureless-concrete-cube apartment and eat it in silence. "Yes, but Venezuela." "Socialism has never worked in any country where it has been tried." (so tell me where Capitalism has worked out for the bottom 80+%?) Crominy Jumblin / wreaths / friends etc etc
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Ymmv but openly stating that by believing in that shite they’re being taken for mugs and all them greedy bosses and politicians? They’re loving laughing at you and how you’ve swallowed their propaganda hook line and sinker, had actually worked quite well for me. Just a tone of friendly but open mockery that they’re still being taken for fools even while they can barely afford to live.
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Mebh posted:How goddamn hard is it to say something like "We don't have an official union but if you feel you need the backing there is no issue to joining one and we can help you with whatever issues you might have if you'd rather do that, we absolutely support the rights of workers to a fair wage and believe we provide one, but we're always willing to listen and improve"" When you don't want to be quoted making a flat-out lie? Tricky, at the very least.
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sebzilla posted:Some belters in this word cloud This can't be real, C**t isn't present
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Umbra Dubium posted:When you don't want to be quoted making a flat-out lie? Tricky, at the very least. Yeah that's what it comes down to really. They're full of poo poo and no matter how well they treat us, the second it hits their bottom line we're all in the bread and cheese line. The fact that they're completely tone-deaf to the fact that people are cottoning onto that en masse right now really says everything you need to know.
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Diet Crack posted:This can't be real, C**t isn't present Secondly, some of the entries in there make no sense on their own (“whos”, “corbyn”, “worse”), so I assume they’ve gotten responses from a text box where some people have just written “whos he” or “worse than corbyn” and thrown everything straight into the cloud generator. And I can’t believe that many people would put “whos he” or another string containing “whos” so I’m also going to assume the overall number of responses is small enough that words of that size come from at most two people.
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oval office is pretty much an insta-ban on Twitter depending on how the algorithm is feeling that day and people are largely conditioned to not use it as a result, so that would probably explain its absence.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:oval office is pretty much an insta-ban on Twitter depending on how the algorithm is feeling that day and people are largely conditioned to not use it as a result, so that would probably explain its absence. This is anti -Australianism, and I'm here for it
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forkboy84 posted:No friend, the Labour Party that I want is a party that can only be described in the past tense for it has withered and died. I can only conclude you haven't actually engaged with a single anti-Labour argument if you think the desired result is right wing Labour. The desired result is proving that a centre-left party cannot survive when it holds nothing but contempt for ordinary working people. Obviously, if all the lefties leave the Labour Party only the right will remain. This is the outcome that both you, and the entire Labour right, are angling for. I disagree with this tactic, but I don’t think it’s an illegitimate one. And I don’t think the current situation is your fault, though you have done your part in spreading the meme (in the classical sense) that people should leave the party. But if current trends continue, of course Luke Akehurst is going to win elections, and probably end up an MP, because who’s going to stop him? And you have ceaselessly advocated for current trends to continue and even accelerate. So you shouldn’t laugh and crow about events like this election. Your reaction should be that it’s a sad but inevitable symptom of what you think needs to happen with the Labour Party, or even that it’s good.
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Diet Crack posted:This can't be real, C**t isn't present It's on the liz Truss one.... https://twitter.com/PeoplePolling/status/1563091743188598784
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:"Socialism has never worked in any country where it has been tried." (so tell me where Capitalism has worked out for the bottom 80+%?) Also socialism gets tried very successfully every eight or so years when the government has to bail out capitalism.
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Horrible scrum dick was a common affliction at Eton, I'm led to understand
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Guavanaut posted:I'm 'weak cheese bitch' ‘Horrible pork politician’
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mrpwase posted:Horrible scrum dick was a common affliction at Eton, I'm led to understand It's like a combination of athlete's foot and cauliflower ear, but for the dilz E: Horrible Scum Dick Johnson
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"Clueless untrustworthy idiot Thatcher" is amazingly accurate. I'm a little sad we didn't get "Truss enuss" in there tho
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Grey Hunter posted:It's on the liz Truss one....  wait... enhance  
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Failed Imagineer posted:"Clueless untrustworthy idiot Thatcher" is amazingly accurate. I'm a little sad we didn't get "Truss enuss" in there tho Probably just going to get impatient and blow it on her first health policy, which will be a for-profit nhs for some, miniature flags for the exact same people.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:
Something something "opening pork markets"
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Yes, because the CIA keep intervening every time it's tried. Yeah, that whole "socialism will never work because sooner or later you run out of other people's money" was a masterstroke of framing the opposite of reality. Meanwhile massive public subsidies to failed capitalists continues apace, more like every two to three years these days, when capitalism predictably shits itself to death. In talking to to folks... don't get into systemic issues. Don't even say capitalism, everyone loves what they themselves think capitalism is (flatscreen TVs and two dragon shows to watch on them). Don't talk about greed directly, because we all heard Greed Is Good thirty years ago and believe it. Talk about price-gouging (if they're just "passing along the costs", why are their profits up 400%?), talk about unearned wealth (you know who), talk about theft of what used to be owned by the public. Talk about politicians enabling the criminal plunder of the people. Remind them that Queen Buffy #3's response to the energy heist was "profits aren't evil" or some dumb poo poo, completely siding with the thieves taking your money. Make it about the crime. Get them mad at every PM since Thatcher and not at you for pointing it out. Greed isn't a crime. Taking Your Money is the crime. It doesn't matter if it's actually precisely true or not. They aren't ever going to vote for a Jam Man but they might start to demand better from their own monsters, whether they be Starmer or Truss. Oh, here's something I have had some success with. Capitalism Is Freedom, right? Let's pretend so. Well, remind them that "freedom" isn't "forty types of cereal", it's actually "not having to worry about where your next bowl of cereal is coming from". And that doesn't mean "nationalising cereal", it means "you have a good enough income to afford your own cereal, and aren't getting it stolen by Shell". And don't lose your cool. Anyway, I'm off to watch one of the dragon shows on my big flatscreen TV.
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My most active local energy protest group is full to the brim with Alba transphobic bigots, they ruined a community project last year and ran Living Rent out of the area when they demanded homeowners/landlords be allowed to join. Horrible loving cunts, man. I'll stick with the bigger Power to the People/Enough Is Enough protests I think.
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Guavanaut posted:I'm 'weak cheese bitch' I'm 'corrupt, bad, clueless, useless' It took a lot of work, I assure you.
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Tesseraction posted:So it had twat for Starmer and oval office for Truss. hmmm It has twat for Truss too, though uncensored for sone reason. Maybe Starmer's "t**t" is something else? Tiit?
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Angepain posted:It has twat for Truss too, though uncensored for sone reason. Maybe Starmer's "t**t" is something else? Tiit? Taut 
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No Tonty Blair, NO! *thiiiiiings. Can only get betttterrrrrrr*
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