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And if my grandpa was an accomplished carpenter instead of a horny old drunk then his house would be full of wooden furniture instead of beer bottles and porno mags.
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Toplowtech posted:I really like that the show manage to ignore 95% of the essos plot and characters and it's somehow make what's missing to the tv ending obvious: the dream team of Griff, varys blackfyre (varys with non razed white hairs!) and his nephew fake king aegon driving Daenyris mad with the BELLS. I didnt remember Varys being a BF so I googled "Varys Blackfyre" and the first result was a wiki page about him with a bunch of poo poo that I don't remember from the books. It turns out that its a wiki for the GOT "Fanon" where I guess people have tried to finish the story for GRRM, lol
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Sep 3, 2022 02:14
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Varys and Littlefinger are characters where we don't know their full plans in the books, so the show made them increasingly dumb in the later seasons.
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Sep 3, 2022 03:13
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Starks posted:I didnt remember Varys being a BF so I googled "Varys Blackfyre" and the first result was a wiki page about him with a bunch of poo poo that I don't remember from the books. It turns out that its a wiki for the GOT "Fanon" where I guess people have tried to finish the story for GRRM, lol The Varys Blackfyre thing is both something that likely isn't true, yet at the same time appear completely possible based on a bunch of circumstantial evidence strengthened by the maddening void formed by the books being incomplete. Just waiting for the books led to people theorycrafting, and the entire Blackfire plot kind of came out of that.
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Sep 3, 2022 03:19
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bobjr posted:Varys and Littlefinger are characters where we don't know their full plans in the books, so the show made them increasingly dumb in the later seasons. Varys being a narrative entity entirely hinges on the existence of Illyrio and Griff/Young Griff, so he had nothing to do in the show. Littlefinger is dependent on plot armor in the books, so if he's up against Arya in the show, her plot armor will always win out against his. Pennsylvanian fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Sep 3, 2022 |
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Sep 3, 2022 03:26
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Phenotype posted:And if my grandpa was an accomplished carpenter instead of a horny old drunk then his house would be full of wooden furniture instead of beer bottles and porno mags. Count your blessings, friend.
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Sep 3, 2022 03:31
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Pennsylvanian posted:Varys being a narrative entity entirely hinges on the existence of Illyrio and Griff/Young Griff, so he had nothing to do in the show. Littlefinger is dependent on plot armor in the books, so if he's up against Arya in the show, her plot armor will always win out against his.
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Sep 3, 2022 04:15
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Remember when Aidan Gillen switched his accent halfway through the series and started talking like Irish Batman?
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Sep 3, 2022 04:28
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Pennsylvanian posted:Remember when Aidan Gillen switched his accent halfway through the series and started talking like Irish Batman? That was awesome though because it matched his book character. If he's changing accents for where he is to won people over...that's Littlefinger. It may be a happy accident, but it worked. D&D just didn't understand the whole thing was about scheming and behind the scenes machinations and didn't properly halde Littlefinger and Varys. They should have both been around towards the very end.
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Sep 3, 2022 04:49
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Pennsylvanian posted:Varys being a narrative entity entirely hinges on the existence of Illyrio and Griff/Young Griff, so he had nothing to do in the show. Littlefinger is dependent on plot armor in the books, so if he's up against Arya in the show, her plot armor will always win out against his. The only time Arya could hurt him was when he went down on his knees. His arc was all about weakening him for long enough that it’d happen with her in the room. Hire me, HBO.
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Darko posted:That was awesome though because it matched his book character. If he's changing accents for where he is to won people over...that's Littlefinger. It may be a happy accident, but it worked. It would've made sense if it was planned and he was consistent when talking to specific characters but it wasn't. He used like 5 different accents on Sansa alone. Gillen is a good actor but bad at accents, should've just let him use his normal voice.
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Sep 3, 2022 05:24
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Starks posted:I didnt remember Varys being a BF so I googled "Varys Blackfyre" and the first result was a wiki page about him with a bunch of poo poo that I don't remember from the books. It turns out that its a wiki for the GOT "Fanon" where I guess people have tried to finish the story for GRRM, lol Obligatory 7 hours of spoilers and madness in this SPOILER FREE THREAD to lose on bullshit for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM5zDjMnMKk
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Balerion (cat) is the rightful King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm.
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The King decrees that he shall not drink water from a bowl, and his kingsguard must procure a filtered automatic water dispenser. Further, he reminds his lords paramount that the royal salute is not solicitation of belly rubs. Hands shall be kept well away from the royal tummy.
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Sep 3, 2022 11:20
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Starks posted:Gillen is a good actor but bad at accents, should've just let him use his normal voice. Yeah, he's one of the most memorable parts of The Wire but woof, that accent.
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Sep 3, 2022 16:13
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Starks posted:He used like 5 different accents on Sansa alone. Gillen is a good actor but bad at accents, should've just let him use his normal voice. 
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Sep 3, 2022 18:03
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Vichan posted:I loving hated the whole Pyat Pree coup storyline, such a lazy way to end that particular arc. Holy hell I forgot how bad those early wigs were
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Sep 3, 2022 18:33
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I really don't have an eye for wigs at all... unless you can physically see the hair underneath or it looks like it's made of plastic I can't really tell a good one from a bad one. None of the ones in this show have struck me as particularly good or bad.
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Sep 3, 2022 18:39
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stev posted:I really don't have an eye for wigs at all... unless you can physically see the hair underneath or it looks like it's made of plastic I can't really tell a good one from a bad one. None of the ones in this show have struck me as particularly good or bad. Same but I also have a nice habit of just fully immersing myself into movies/shows so it's hard for a lot of things to stick out to me. Didn't even notice the wings until this discussion. Hell I didn't even THINK they were wigs until now. I'm very easily entertained.
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Sep 3, 2022 18:43
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Tender Bender posted:Holy hell I forgot how bad those early wigs were For me it's the painted masonry, the wall behind the spice Baron looks so bad.
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Sep 3, 2022 19:05
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As Nero Danced posted:For me it's the painted masonry, the wall behind the spice Baron looks so bad.
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Sep 3, 2022 19:21
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corlys' kid looked like george washington to me
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corlys' kid looked like george washington to me [And That's Good]
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stev posted:I really don't have an eye for wigs at all... unless you can physically see the hair underneath or it looks like it's made of plastic I can't really tell a good one from a bad one. None of the ones in this show have struck me as particularly good or bad. I'm with you. After the complaints about wigs in the first episode, I tried to pick them out in the 2nd and had a pretty hard time of it. Maybe if you're more familiar with costuming/work with hair a lot it's obvious, but I can only tell characters are wearing a wig if I'm actively staring at their hairline, and even then unreliably.
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stev posted:I really don't have an eye for wigs at all... unless you can physically see the hair underneath or it looks like it's made of plastic I can't really tell a good one from a bad one. None of the ones in this show have struck me as particularly good or bad. Yeah I can never tell good or bad either
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Sep 4, 2022 02:59
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bobjr posted:Varys and Littlefinger are characters where we don't know their full plans in the books, so the show made them increasingly dumb in the later seasons. i am more mad about varys then littlefinger show wise. mostly because i found varys a interesting character and i liked him being shown as basically an extreamly hosed up altuist who backs who ever he thinks can actually make things better or at least less poo poo, then he bet wrong and that would have been an interesting story if it wasnt rushed. to me show littlefinger was a dude who managed to play a ton of morons/gullible people into loving each other over and also wants to gently caress the girl he had a crush on or at least maybe her kid. i dont fully mind the deteriotion because show littlefinger strikes me as someone who thinks he is always the smartest man in the room and everyone else is moron and eventually it bites him in the rear end. i just wish it was done way better. i like his death scene, its cathartic and gillian does a good job of showing some dude realizing he can't bullshit his way out of something and its dawning on him that he is super duper hosed. I actually liked the way the further North he went the fewer accomplices he had and the more isolated he looked. He extended his hand in order to gain more and simply went too far, tripped up, and was caught off guard with no escape route. then again, i also like slynt and ramsays death scenes so lol Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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It felt like Dany hadn't done too much to lose Varys' loyalty at the point where he was trying to poison her.
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Aiden Gillen, despite his accent work, made Littlefinger a compelling character despite the writing. I was interested in what he was doing until the poor writing caught up to him. I'm still amused that he told Ned to not trust him and lived up to it.
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PostNouveau posted:Yeah I can never tell good or bad either TOOT BOOT posted:It felt like Dany hadn't done too much to lose Varys' loyalty at the point where he was trying to poison her.
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PostNouveau posted:Yeah I can never tell good or bad either Corly's kid's wig was really bad.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i am more mad about varys then littlefinger show wise. mostly because i found varys a interesting character and i liked him being shown as basically an extreamly hosed up altuist who backs who ever he thinks can actually make things better or at least less poo poo, then he bet wrong and that would have been an interesting story if it wasnt rushed. Even if you can divorce show Littlefinger from book Littlefinger, show Littlefinger still started the entire Game of Thrones because he was mad that he couldn't get mom Stark because he was too lowborn. So he accomplishes marrying her sister to take over her land and title and getting her daughter as a stand-in and...gives her to Ramsay for no reason whatsoever and then "rescues" her and tries to obviously turn her against her own sister for no reason at the time because...? The whole situation makes absolutely no sense because he just started doing stuff only to put himself in a no win situation that would get him killed once it left the books.
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Chalk me up as a fellow wig-blindess haver. Fellow goons should really take a leaf out of my book and bumble through life in blissful ignorance 
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Sep 4, 2022 16:11
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I grew up in a community where 70% of women were wearing wigs and weaves that were obviously not their hair to the point where it was just normal; I literally don't even notice anything different or wigs at all due to that conditioning.
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Sep 4, 2022 16:20
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I never noticed wigs until my mom, a professional hairdresser of 40 years, started pointing whenever an actor had a weird-looking or unrealistically low hairline. Now I can't stop seeing hairlines that start right above the eyebrows or when they've been sprayed in a straight line using one of those plastic spray masks. I don't find it as a point of critique or anything, but it's just something that wasn't on my radar until just recently.
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Sep 4, 2022 16:26
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Small Velaryon is the only one I noticed. You can see her real hair. Everyone else looked fine to me. Actually it's kinda cute that they look related to Emilia Clarke by having their otherworldly targ hair betrayed by dark eyebrows and beards. And hey to be fair, on the whole I rather like that they didn't force that little kid to spend twelve hours in makeup to give her authentic valyrian platinum.
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Sep 4, 2022 20:44
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Pennsylvanian posted:I never noticed wigs until my mom, a professional hairdresser of 40 years, started pointing whenever an actor had a weird-looking or unrealistically low hairline. Now I can't stop seeing hairlines that start right above the eyebrows or when they've been sprayed in a straight line using one of those plastic spray masks. 
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Is there an episode tonight or hbo doing holiday??
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Koirhor posted:Is there an episode tonight or hbo doing holiday?? They're showing the previous one in about half an hour and the new one when it ends in our time zone, so presumably around 2 hours from now it'll be on streaming for non-idiots who don't watch cable
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Alhazred posted:Corly's kid's wig was really bad. It didn’t both me, especially because the idea of putting a child in a wig to make them look older fits the exact thing her father was trying to do.
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