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Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Okay April May is a cromulent name, but Redd White??? Come on that's obviously a fake name, these people are jerkin you around.
It's not the worst pun name in this series. But then again, there are some actual bangers.

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Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Okay April May is a cromulent name, but Redd White??? Come on that's obviously a fake name, these people are jerkin you around.

Welcome to Ace Attorney. :objection:

Inadequately
Oct 9, 2012
We spent the first case defending a guy named Harry Butz, there's nowhere to go but up.

raifield
Feb 21, 2005
And we'll be seeing Butz again, I assure you. He's the Butz monkey of this game. I don't remember if he shows up in any of the later games though.

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

achtungnight posted:

Question- do we need to talk to Grossberg to progress? IE- could we press April hard to identify Mr. White, then skip talking to Grossberg and keep the photo? I'm betting it's useless even if we can, but I'm still curious.

We don't, actually, but I'm in full adventure mode now, trying to see everything. I do bring it up briefly next update. I think we would lose the photo eventually anyway, but that's a bit later...

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Ah, good you have an alternate save where you kept it then (I assume). I should confess something before it pops up- I have read about, watched, and played (only the first case to completion, I quickly decided it wasn’t my cup of tea playing) these games but never enough to get into story specifics. I am trying to put my blinders on and react to them like a new reader avoiding spoilers and coming across as a speculator. Feel free to slap me if I fail.

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


Redd White of Bluecorp is one of my favorite characters in the series.

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Okay April May is a cromulent name, but Redd White??? Come on that's obviously a fake name, these people are jerkin you around.
Redd White is at least as legal as April May

LJN92
Mar 5, 2014

We rag on Redd White, but it's still a better name than Hot Coldman.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Or Pussy Galore and some other James Bond characters’ names.

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

Part 29: Episode 2, Day 2, Investigation: Red White Blue



Off to Bluecorp! Today's update is dedicated to our villain, Mr. Red White Blue! :911:



Apparently we're allowed to just waltz right into the CEO's office. Is that Grossberg's painting up there?

...

(What's with the surreal décor...?)



Ugh, I forgot this guy talked like that.

(What the...?)



Is this guy posing his smiles?

I was just inquirably asking the title that you go by.

Uh... Wright. Phoenix Wright. ("Inquirably"...?)

Mr. Wright, is it? Right, I see...

Splendiferous.



Yes, so giant you have to make up words to add to it...

(What is this guy's problem!)



That's...not what that stands for, Mr. Vocabulary.

My business dealings bring me into contact with the elite of the elite.



This guy's got on eight rings and a giant diamond on his lapel. He is even more fake than Miss May!



And every expression he makes is just cringe.

(What a fruitcake!)

Hmmm, let me guess...

You are an attorney fresh out of law school, are you not?



My youthful face and proudly-displayed attorney's badge had nothing to do with it, I'm sure.

(What does he mean by that?)

No matter.



(Yipes! This guy's arrogance meter is off the scale!)

Music: Investigation - Core



I'm kind of surprised this guy doesn't get his own music, to be honest. Well, let's look around.



So what's up with Mr. White having Mr. Grossberg's painting?

Music: Silence

...?





That right there is a bona fide original! Worth five million, for sure.

Hmmm...

I see the price went up since yesterday.

Music: Investigation - Core



This trophy collection could be interesting...

An impressive line-up of trophies.

"Judges Special Runner-up" "Best Participation"



Hmm. The words "Judges" and "Special" kind of stand out.

Are these just bribed trophies? And he either thinks no one will notice, or he wants everyone to know he can just buy whatever award he wants?



This office is just so ridiculous.

A statue of a man holding up the world.

The "Bluecorp" sign certainly stands out enough...

The model for the man is, of course, Mr. White.



Yeah, something like that.

(I think it's a little too "beautacious" for just about anyone to appreciate.)



This is the top floor of a 20-story building.

The view is quite... presidential.

I still don't know how we were able to just get in here like this.



All right, let's look at the most outrageous thing here.

I'm guessing this is supposed to be a desk?

My my... This is quite the... thing.

It is modeled on my body, see?



No, just...no.



Ugh I guess we need to talk to this guy some more, we still have nothing.

Miss May is an employee of Bluecorp, is she not?



What a shock it was to hear what she has done!

"What she has done".. You mean the wiretap?



Yeah, I'm sure she came up with that idea all on her own, too.

She does gather information for us as part of her duties.

But, I assure you, we do not condone illegal methods!

It is ineffable that she would do this.





Can I just accuse this guy of murder yet?





My motto is: "Don't worry, be happy!"

Still, Mr. White...



...



If you want me to speak, put me on the witness stand!

Although I doubt you'd be capable of doing that.

(Hmm. He raises a good question, actually...)



(He should have "seen" the same thing as April May!)

Oh hoh hoh.

The police... The courts...



Well that's not a great sign.



For some reason we're able to ask about the painting now, but let's keep going down the list in order.

What kind of company is Bluecorp, anyway?

Ah, excellent question!

We buy and sell various kinds of information.



(Sell... information?)

In just 10 years, I've built this business up into the grand office you see now.



I wasn't wondering, but you do seem obsessed with it.

I, Redd White of Bluecorp, as founder and CEO, named it so!

And why, you ask? Because I like the color blue of course!



His fake words irritate me to no end. This game really does excel at making wonderfully hateable antagonists.



Okay, give me something...

Uh... there's something that's been bothering me.

Yes? What might that be?



Oh geez. After the last prompt with Miss May leading to a relatively wild branch, I'm more nervous about these now. I feel like doing a subtle probing approach here.

Say, when did you get that painting?

...

Hmm... no idea! I forgot!



Music: Silence

Why do I find that painting here today?

quote:

It's a gorgeous painting, of course, but what about it?

It's a very striking piece of art.

Magnificentatious, isn't it!

Yeah.

...

(Why am I making small talk...?)

On this branch, we're brought back to the "Talk" screen and don't get a check mark. We need to select the same topic again and try a different option...

quote:

How about the direct approach - we saw that painting yesterday, so how did Mr. White get it?

You know, I've actually seen that painting before.

Oh?

Music: Silence

Just yesterday, actually.

Your point being...?

My point is simple. Er, rather, my question is simple:

Why is that painting hanging on your wall?

From here, we proceed the same as with the option we chose...

...

Mr. Wrong, was it?

Wright.



I ask again. Who are you?

Umm... huh? A lawyer?



Worth nothing. Zilch. Zippo. Nada!



(Wh-what!?)



Did he just...?



Music: Suspense



Charge away, I welcome it! For it is YOU who will be found guilty!

What...?



And you thought the system was rigged against us before...

(So you say...)

(But I wonder... Is that kind of control really possible?)



...

You came here from Grodyburger's, I presume?

Mr. Grossberg's... yes.

(We get this line even if we only stopped at Grossberg's to pick up the photo, pressed Miss May hard to open up Bluecorp, and then never actually went back to Grossberg's to talk to him.)



Perhaps then he will tell you?



...



Have we bitten off more then we can chew here? :ohdear:

Music: Investigation - Core



Any further attempts at conversation, including presenting evidence, are futile this point.



Let me put it in language you are sure to understand: Shut up and get out!

I have nothing more to say.



Some of the examination text is a bit different now.

This painting was, until yesterday, hanging in Mr. Grossberg's office.

Why does White have it now?

It's not hard to imagine a few possibilities.



An impressive line-up of trophies.

"Judges Special Runner-up" "Best Participation"

"Judges Cooperation Award" "Special Good Try Prize"

Hmm. The words "Judges" and "Special" kind of stand out.

He probably strong-armed them into giving him something.



The globe and the desk are technically different as well, but the new text is the same as the old with Mr. White's lines removed. Anyway it would seem we need to head back to Mr. Grossberg.

quote:

We can present evidence before having these conversations, but not much happens. Most items get a generic reaction:

I am terribly sorry.

But that really doesn't seem to concern me at all.

quote:

The wiretap gets a bit more, though:

About this wiretap...

Ah, the one that Miss May used, right?

Bad girl. Bad, bad girl.

She testified that she placed the wiretap at your request.

...She did?

How pathetic. I guess she's trying to pass the buck.

Bad, bad girl.

Sorry I can't help you. I know nothing.

(I'm going to need hard evidence to get anything out of this guy...)

quote:

One more - if we manage to keep the photo of Mr. White by pressing hard on Miss May and then going straight to Bluecorp without seeing Mr. Grossberg, we can then present the photo directly to Mr. White:

About this picture...

Gorgeous! That's a picture of me!

Ah, I see it was taken in the prime of my youth. About 10 years ago, at a guess.

The hotel bellboy says he saw this man on the night of the murder.

...

On closer inspection, he does look a lot like me, but I'm afraid this is someone else.

Nope. That's definitely not me. He's far too young.

Almost had him there!



Before we go, a mundane profile of our killer.

Music: Silence



Anyway, first we'll take a quick stop at the Detention Center.

I doubt they'll let me talk to her today.



I've guess we've done everything we need to do with her. The bellboy is still cleaning the shower, and the crime scene is still abandoned, so we're left with just the one option. Time to get Grossberg to talk!

DKII fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Sep 4, 2022

Staltran
Jan 3, 2013

Fallen Rib
"Heed my exposition!" is a great line.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
Well drat, if the guy in the picture isn't Redd White, that kind of throws out the Bellboy's testimony. I'm not sure how you're going to find the killer at this point unless Grodyburger has some hot goss for you.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
I love that "Bluecorp" is in red text, on a green statue.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Well drat, if the guy in the picture isn't Redd White, that kind of throws out the Bellboy's testimony. I'm not sure how you're going to find the killer at this point unless Grodyburger has some hot goss for you.

The killer is in custody. The victim wrote her name in blood, remember? The correct autopsy report even specifies that was possible.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Lots of arrogant jerks in this game. Edgeworth, Sahwit, May, now White. I have a feeling we’ll meet more and they’ll get worse too.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


So in the Japanese version, Redd White's verbal tic isn't making up grandiloquent words. It's gratuitously using English, instead.

My first exposure to this was when I was innocently watching the anime, and it is hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6R0gc8pnmE

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Quackles posted:

So in the Japanese version, Redd White's verbal tic isn't making up grandiloquent words. It's gratuitously using English, instead.

My first exposure to this was when I was innocently watching the anime, and it is hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6R0gc8pnmE

That's simply incredible. And another demonstration of how the translation team understood that you can communicate the same idea without having to literally ape it.

I mean, it's a cartoon, so obviously line deliveries are nowhere NEAR to how they are in real life, but I often get worried I sound like that when I try to speak in languages other than English.

Rythian
Dec 31, 2007

You take what comes, and the rest is void.





I'm not a huge anime guy really, but I really enjoyed the Phoenix Wright anime. Was a fun watch.

SoundwaveAU
Apr 17, 2018

Rythian posted:

I'm not a huge anime guy really, but I really enjoyed the Phoenix Wright anime. Was a fun watch.

I was the cynical 'Has Read The Books' guy and was like "No, oh my god dude how are you gonna cut that out? God you can't even tell what's going on!"

Rythian
Dec 31, 2007

You take what comes, and the rest is void.





SoundwaveAU posted:

I was the cynical 'Has Read The Books' guy and was like "No, oh my god dude how are you gonna cut that out? God you can't even tell what's going on!"

You're not wrong! They did cut some stuff (and also add some new stuff) I'm usually that guy too, but I still enjoyed it.

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

Part 30: Episode 2, Day 2, Investigation: Guess What, It's Blackmail



...

...



(Maybe I should... clear my throat?)

Hell yes.



That felt good.

Oh! You!



Wow, way to go straight to dark.

Hmm? I'm not senile yet!

I was just thinking about this whole mess...





The first two conversations are almost exactly the same as before. The first one just removes the last line of Phoenix's inner monologue, and the second one has a slightly different end to Phoenix's inner thoughts:

(He does seem troubled about something...)

(I'm starting to have a feeling I know what it is.)



Anyway, let's get to what we're really here for.

So, I paid Bluecorp a visit.

Oh? Oh, I see.

Mr. Grossberg...



Oh? What is it? Well, out with it, my boy!



Hmm, some good options here. The painting is the big question, of course. But why did Grossberg have a picture of White? And really, why was he so adamant about not defending Maya? I'm pretty sure all three have the same answer, but let's ask about what's really at the heart of the problem here.

I thought it was strange.

Here was Maya, your own apprentice's little sister, in desperate need...



I finally realized why.



We're immediately presented with another choice, but only one really makes sense here.



Just kidding, I couldn't resist this one.

It's not something I can claim to understand...



Music: Silence



Mr. Grossberg.



I saw that painting again, today.

It was in the CEO's office of Bluecorp.



:allears: Worth it.

Well, my boy, you have a splendid imagination!

I... I don't understand how you could...





(Hmm... I guess I was wrong. But it just seemed so right!)

Music: Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution



Looks like we get another shot at it.



Let's ask about the photo this time.

That photo of Mr. White...

Why would you have his photo, Mr. Grossberg?



The photo doesn't seem all that different from the Mr. White we just saw, how old could it be?

A long time ago?

I'm sorry... but I think not.

I think you still have ties to Mr. White even today.

R-really! Whatever gave you that idea!





We end up at a similar prompt, but with a couple of different options. Which of course means I still want to see them as close friends somehow.

You go drinking together!

You're friends, aren't you?

...

Now you're being foolish, my boy.



(Huh? Whoops... maybe that wasn't it.)



A few clicks later and we're back at the same prompt again, so now let's talk about that painting.

Mr. Grossberg, sir...



The one you said you had "no intention of parting with"?

Well, I saw it. Today.



...

So... you noticed.



Mr. Grossberg, I know you and Mr. White are connected somehow!

C-connected, you say?



These options are all repeats, but form a unique set from the other two ways to get here. In fact, one of those options was common to all three paths...



...!

I think that painting is fairly gaudy proof.

...

Music: Silence

Very well. This may be the chance I've been waiting for.



After all, you were Mia's understudy. Perhaps it was fate?

(What's he talking about...?)

quote:

Some other options we didn't take; first we'll guess that Mr. White is giving Mr. Grossberg information, available after asking about the painting.

You're his client, aren't you? He's giving you information!

What's that now?

You've been protecting him all along.

You protect him because you need his services!

...

You gave him that painting in exchange for some valuable information, didn't you?

Utterly ridiculous.

Me, his client? I would never willingly deal with that man. Never!

(Huh? Did I get it wrong?)

Like the others above, getting it wrong means we go back to the conversation screen to try again.

quote:

The option for guessing that they're lovers is also available when asking about the painting, with different dialogue:

It's not something I can claim to understand.

But you and Mr. White are lovers, aren't you!

Music: Silence

W-w-what! My boy!

You sent that painting to him!

As a sign! A sign of undying love!

M-m-my boy, please! You're letting your fancies run away with you!

Where do you get these bizarre ideas?

I... I don't understand how you could...

That's because I'm not, we're not... Don't be ridiculous!

...

Enough.

I'll swallow my pride and tell you all.

(I knew it! They are lovers!)

N-no! We are NOT lovers!

This branch actually proceeds the same as guessing that he's being blackmailed!

quote:

We can also claim that Grossberg is getting information from White when asking about the photo, with some different dialogue...

Redd White is supplying you with information, obviously!

What's that now?

You've been protecting him all along.

You protect him because you need his services!

...

Now you're being foolish, my boy.

What possible use could I have for the services of the likes of him?

(Huh? Whoops... maybe that wasn't it.)

Another loop-back branch...

quote:

Another path not traveled - claiming that Mr. White is Grossberg's boss, available when poking at his refusal to defend Maya:

I'll bet you and White go way back! He's your boss now, and was before, I bet!

My what? Boss? Are you serious?

Yeah! You both have that sort of "we're in the same club together" feel to you.

Please, stop.

Music: Silence

You have a very peculiar sense of humor, Mr. Wright.

Very well, I'll talk.

(What does he mean... "sense of humor"? I was serious!)

Another branch that advances the plot and continues below!





Bluecorp is a company that excels in finding people's weaknesses, I'm afraid.

Music: Investigation - Core

I've been paying them for 15 years now...

(15 years...!)

That's weird. Mr. White said earlier he built up Bluecorp in "just 10 years" into "the grand office you see now". Maybe that's just how long he's been the one in charge?



(The name on the back of those photographs!)



White would have destroyed me if I did.

(So that's the connection!)



But arresting Redd White will be nigh on impossible.

Impossible? Why!?



He owns judges, attorneys, prosecutors, police... and politicians.

What!?



This entire episode feels more like a "final boss" type of case then the first full one we're playing! It's rather incredible and exciting, actually! Where is the game going to go from here?

Don't look at me like that. What you see is nothing more than the weight of many years.



Looks like we've opened up a couple more topics.

What is the "DL-6 Incident"?



It was 15 years ago now...

I received a request from a medium. A spirit medium.

(A medium...?)



Here's another side of the story Maya told us about her mother. I guess that other photo of the woman really was their mother.

(Fey!)

Indeed. She was Mia's mother.



And... she failed.

As a result, the police called her a fraud.

(This is what Maya was talking about the other day!)



That murder case, however remains unsolved to this day.

That case, is the DL-6 Incident.

We still don't know what actually happened to Misty Fey. Are we going to have to go find her? And solve this long-ago murder? Will that be part of this episode or a future one?



But why were you blackmailed over this, Mr. Grossberg?

The DL-6 Incident was top-secret at the time.



They couldn't let people know.

But one person found out.



Dammit, Marvin. You told White, didn't you?

You told White?



Because I talked, the police were mocked far and wide.

In secret, they began looking for the one who sold them out.

Of course White heard about it, and he came to me.



...

I see.

...



Yet if you would still challenge him...

Have a close look at Mia's office.

Mia's office...?



She may have recorded something of what she found.

Hopefully more than what was stolen out of the statue/clock/murder weapon.



That's all for the conversation. Presenting evidence is once again fruitless:

Sorry, my boy. I don't think I can help you with that.



Luckily we already know where we need to go next!

raifield
Feb 21, 2005

quote:

Don't look at me like that. What you see is nothing more than the weight of many years.

Many, many years. But if you told me he was born with that moustache, I'd believe it.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


raifield posted:

Many, many years. But if you told me he was born with that moustache, I'd believe it.

quote:

"Ah, the mustache of my youth..." Like the scent of fresh lemon, you see.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Hit that guy with your lawyer badge. I know it’s not a choice but it feels like the right use up to this point.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Blackmail… wonder if there are other victims. Gumshoe? Edgeworth? The Bellboy?

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

achtungnight posted:

Blackmail… wonder if there are other victims. Gumshoe? Edgeworth? The Bellboy?
Gumshoe is far too pure to ever have done anything blackmail-worthy

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

Foxfire_ posted:

Gumshoe is far too pure to ever have done anything blackmail-worthy

Gumshoe: please don't tell anyone how I live!

raifield
Feb 21, 2005

davidspackage posted:

Gumshoe: please don't tell anyone how I live!

Barely above the poverty line.

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

Part 31: Episode 2, Day 2, Investigation: Victory?



All right, let's go see what dirt we can dig up on White.



Hard to imagine a murder took place here.

Mr. Grossberg said there would be clues...

Maybe I should have another look.

Music: Investigation - Opening



We looked at the bookcase of files earlier, but didn't have enough specific information to really figure anything out from what's here, so the game kept it from us. Now, though...



They're in alphabetical order. Let's take a look...



Let's see. "D" for "DL-6 Incident"? "R" for "Redd"? How about "W" for "White"?



...

!



Was it taken...?

Well, that would have been too easy.



We get dumped back out to the examine screen and have to dive back in to get back to this prompt. Let's see what's in the "A-I" range this time.



:ughh:



I didn't even think of looking for "Fey", good eye Phoenix!



We didn't come all this way to not snoop in Mia's files.



"I was determined to find the ones who had made my mother blame herself in this way."

"Using the power that runs in my family, I held an audience with the dead."

"Finally, the names of two men surfaced."



...Is that why Mia became a lawyer? To go work for Grossberg and dig for clues?

"The other was the man who sold that information to the press."



"His name is..."



Ugh, of course it does. White was thorough in the few minutes he had to clean out these records.

...

So Mia knew Grossberg...

quote:

Leaving this section alone is pointless, but here you go:

I don't think it has much to do with the current case.

I'd be interested to know what it contains... but I'll leave it alone for now.



Guess we're stuck with "J-S" then.



Nothing much in here.



Not like we have any other options, keep reading!

*sigh*

Well, no harm in flipping through a bit, I guess...



Doesn't seem to really apply here, but why would Mia have a bunch of suicide files?



Ohhhh....

...

Music: Silence

...!

There's writing on most of these in pencil.





White drove them all to...

Music: Investigation - Core

...



Hmm... let's find the most disturbing one...



That's an interesting motive for White to have committed the murder, but not really the kind of evidence I was hoping for.

quote:

Deciding not to skim through this section:

Nah... this is taking too long. Later.

*yawn* I've never been good at reading these things.

Phoenix we need to work on your work ethic.



We can keep looking through the files though.



Yes yes please continue.



The only one that's different is the one we just got some "evidence" from.

Hmm... not much in the "J-S" section.



I think that's enough reading for today.

quote:

Backing out from looking at the files again:

I don't see much point in checking files that are missing all the key parts.

Argh. I give up.



We're not really due for a break, so I guess I'll pick our next destination myself. Detention Center and Gatewater Hotel still don't have anything. Let's go talk to Grossberg and see if he has any more advice for us.





So she was investigating Redd White, as I expected.



(Not a bad idea...)



Forget waiting for court, let's go shove it in his face now! (I'm out of other ideas, anyway!)

Music: Silence



Sorry, but there's something I have to ask you.

Mr. Lawyer,

I really hate having to repeat myself...



If you try my patience further, I fear a nasty accident may occur.

Do I make myself clear?

(Transparent...)

We're off to a great start, he already threatened to kill us. Phoenix really should just be wearing a wire at all times.

Music: Investigation - Core



Anyway our conversation check marks are gone, let's see what's going on here.

(I think we're past needing to talk about April May.)

(I've got to put this guy on the spot, and quick!)

Hmm? What's the matter? You seem... distressed!



Just what I need to get my ire up again, let's try another!

(This guy is a pro at pulling the wool over people's eyes.)

(I've got to put him on the spot, and quick!)

Stop that! Your hot gaze is giving me goose bumps!



I like to imagine Phoenix just silently glaring at Mr. White during these.

(There's no point asking someone this crooked a straight question!)

(I need some evidence I can use as ammo...)

What's wrong? Is something stuck to my face?

Why yes! There's my eyes, and my nose, and my mouth...



It is okay to indulge in my cosmopolitan sense of humor. I will not think less of you.

:argh: That's it!



Take this attorney's badge!

I have no intention of parleying with you about this matter.



Everything we had before (including the photo, if we had kept it) gets the same response. But as you can tell from the conversations above, we need to present our new evidence here. Frankly it seems like a terrible idea to be alone with the murderer and shoving our wild speculation in his face, but we're out of other options.

(This is the only clue that Mia left me...)

(I'd better make this one count!)

Mr. White... see this?



...

He was embezzling secret government funds.

Then, one day, word got leaked to the press.

The very next day he took his own life.



I found this article in Mia's office.

Miss Mia...?

She had a file filled with articles like this.



...!



You were blackmailing him!

Blackmail?



You were involved in all of the suicide cases that Mia investigated!

This company is built on blackmail!

I'm right, aren't I?

What a bizarre accusation.

Mr. Wrong...



No no no. I think not!

You should be searching for the one who killed Miss Mia!

I'm looking at him, pal.

quote:

Let's guess that Mr. White bribed the politician instead.

You bribed him!

B-bribed!?

...

What exactly has let you to say this?

(Um... gee, that's a good question. I guess I got ahead of myself there...)

Hmph. You certainly have an active imagination.

(Dammit!)

Getting this one wrong just brings us back to the court record to re-present the newspaper clipping and try again.

quote:

Maybe Mr. White was spying on the politician?

You were spying on him, weren't you?

"Spying"...?

You snooped on him, and found out about the embezzlement.

Then, when you revealed it, he was driven to suicide!

Mr. Lawyer.

I know nothing of this.

And, even in the highly unlikely event that I did do such a thing...

All I would have done is provide "information". That is not a crime in this country.

(Gah! This guy's as cool as a cucumber...!)

We're then brought back to the evidence page to try again.





Mr. Wrong will be leaving now.

Mr. White is apparently done with us. And still getting our name wrong on purpose.





He's right, and Phoenix can tell it better than I can:

You are absolutely right.

I should be looking for the killer now.



He's sitting right in front of me.

quote:

The other option is basically the same:

You're wrong, Mr. White.

Excuse me?

What I should be doing now is going after you!

We continue the same with either choice from here.



Mia was on to you. She was keeping tabs.

For this reason you had April May tapping her phone.



So, the culprit would be...?

...



I would feel a lot better about this speech if it were happening in a courtroom in front of a lot of witnesses.

...

Music: Silence



The secretary gets beeped again.

We won't be needing an escort for Mr. Wrong.

Music: Suspense



Huh? He gonna sick Edgeworth on us?







Hello. Chief Prosecutor?

I've changed my mind. I want to testify tomorrow.





Oh good another sham witness to frame Maya. At least we'll get you on the stand!

And, thus, as a very important witness, I would like to testify.





Oh, and one other thing.

Send the police over here right away.



Wait, what?



Are you even listening?



He's saying we did it!?

What!?



I'm mildly disturbed by what "those" could refer to, but too distracted to think about it right now.

Chief Prosecutor.



Ah poo poo he has the chief prosecutor in his pocket, of course.

I'm telling you to send the police, now!



...

Did I not tell you, Mr. Wrong?

You are a mere lawyer!



You know, if we're going to take the fall for a murder anyway, we might as well actually commit one. Let's start with this guy. Those trophies could probably manage it.

How dare you!



The case is as good as settled. No lawyer of any worth will defend you.

I have friends in the local lawyer's association, you see.



(I... I feel faint.)

There's a crash, and then...

Music: Silence



I refuse to believe Gumshoe is a part of this mess.

Aaa! Butz! Hairy Butz!





Didn't we already do this bit? gently caress that was 15 updates ago. This episode is insane!

Detective Gumshoe.



W-what!?

Take this despicable human being into custody.

...

Farewell, Mr. Wrong!



One more shot of that smug face so we don't forget it.



I suppose, technically this means Maya goes free and we won? Or maybe he'll claim it was a team effort and we both did it?



Now that I've calmed down a bit, it's not all bad. The same evidence that was used to frame Maya could work in our favor now. And we'll get Mr. White on the stand, at least. I bet we don't have to spend too long in jail before the trial starts, too!



Right, we got arrested on September 7th, and it's now September 8th. The trial is probably tomorrow, then?



Thanks for the confirmation. Hopefully they didn't confiscate all the evidence in our pockets.

White's going to set a trap for me.



An attorney was assigned to me by the state, yesterday.

I refused. I had an idea.

Yeah, we know, he's going to represent himself and make everyone look silly.



I really hope Maya is here to visit us and not here detained with us.

Wright!

Mr. Wright!

Music: Detention Center - Jailer's Elegy



Apparently the detention center looks exactly the same on the other side of the glass?



Well, we accomplished our primary objective - get Maya off the hook. Now we just have to save our own skin.

Just now, yes. It's all thanks to you!

Hah. Now I'm afraid we've switched places.



Oh, geez, she didn't even know.



...

I don't believe it!



My sister...

And now you!



Mr. Wright, please tell me, is there anything I can do?

Look, if we just kill Mr. White, this whole house of cards comes tumbling down. So, Maya, here's what I want you to do...



Okay, those are slightly less insane options. But only slightly. Let's break out of here first, then we can take care of Mr. White.





Yeah. Tonight's our only chance!

Alright!

Huh?





quote:

Maybe we can have Maya defend us? She can't do worse than we've done today.

Alright, you can be my defense lawyer tomorrow!

Alright!

Huh?

Leave it to me! I am Mia's sister, after all! Lawyership runs in our blood!

(Wasn't it ghost powers that ran in your blood...?)

I'd better run to the bookstore and pick up a copy of "Law for Rookies."

Sounds like a plan!

quote:

Let's just have her cheer us on instead...

Well, you could cheer for me in court.

Cheer for you? You mean... like a cheerleader?

Huh? Um, yeah, like that.

Alright! Leave it to me!

Huh?

I'd better go get a uniform and some pom-poms...!

And she's off again.



Maya is 100% on board with this plan and seems to have already left to go enact it.

W-wait. Wait wait wait.



I'm kidding! It was a joke!





(And there really isn't anything you can do for me anyway...)





(Just a piece...?)

Okay.

Then, come to the trial tomorrow.





Music: Silence





In fact, it's gotten worse. Lengthy court proceedings are no longer realistic.

Beginning a few years ago, a limit of three days was put on initial court trials.

Almost all finish in a day. Most with a guilty verdict.

That's some weird backstory on the judicial system to save until we're headed into our third trial.









Music: Jingle - It Can't End Here



Despite the last sequence in the detention center technically taking place the next day, we've just wrapped up "Day 2" of the second episode. Next time we'll start "Day 3" with another trial - this time with Phoenix directly on the hot seat!

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


Well, they do say a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. :objection:

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Quackles posted:

Well, they do say a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. :objection:

And an rear end for an attorney!

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Aww, I would have liked to see Maya with Pom-Poms. And the judge’s reaction to it. ;)

raifield
Feb 21, 2005

achtungnight posted:

Aww, I would have liked to see Maya with Pom-Poms. And the judge’s reaction to it. ;)

Don't worry, we'll be seeing Maya's Pom-Poms soon enough.

Twibbit
Mar 7, 2013

Is your refrigerator running?

raifield posted:

Don't worry, we'll be seeing Maya's Pom-Poms soon enough.

This sounds like a bad inuendo

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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Quackles posted:

Well, they do say a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. :objection:

Luckily that doesn't apply to Phoenix, he's defending his good friend Harry Butz again.

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

Part 32: Episode 2, Day 3, Trial: Abso-posi-lutely Perfect

Music: Silence



I have no idea what we're in for here, but I'm sure it's going to get ugly.



It's the next day, and we're about to go on trial for murdering our boss and mentor.

Music: Courtroom Lobby ~ Beginning Overture



But first, we're going to have a chat in the lobby.

Yeah.





I took a peek at the court record here, mostly to snap any changes to the profiles. But notice something different here? The newspaper clipping of the suicide with Mia's hand-written "White" on it is gone. Was it taken from us? Are we not expected to need it? Seems like it would be important here. Also, if we had managed to hang onto the photo of Mr. White up to this point, then it would be gone now as well. My understanding is that our "inventory" is just loaded from a stock state at the start of the day with what's needed for that day, regardless of what we really had the day before. It's a good way to avoid a glitch in a prior day cascading into a game-breaking failure later on.



Anyway, the only profile that seemed to be any different was Maya's, now that she's no longer the defendant.





(Prosecutor... Edgeworth.)

Ugh, this guy again. Looks like I have a whole new set of smug sprites to go capture.



?



Yeah, we get it, the system is even more rigged against us than normal.



If I raise an objection, I have it on good faith that the judge will listen to me.

(What, does White have the judge in his pocket, too!?)



...



Do you have a third autopsy report to throw at us?



How can you torment an innocent person like this!?

Don't bother engaging with him Maya, it's not worth it.



How can we know that?

The guilty will always lie, to avoid being found out.



That's an awfully cynical attitude for a prosecutor. Probably some backstory there that we'll get to someday.

All that I can hope to do is get every defendant declared "guilty"!

So I make that my policy.

Edgeworth...

You've changed.

Hmm?







Well... court will be starting soon.

What? But wait!



I'll be defending myself.

There's an old saying that a lawyer who represents himself at trial "has a fool for a client". That may be true, but it sure seems like Phoenix's other options would be worse here.



So I feel like that reaction is a little unwarranted, Maya.

Okay, let's do this.

Music: Silence







Interesting, Maya's standing next to us this time.



Music: Trial







Well, for better or worse, here we go!



Yes, Your Honor. I will be defending myself.

Understood.

Very well. Mr. Edgeworth, your opening statement, please.



today we will hear the testimony of a witness to the defendant's crime.

I see.



(That went far too smoothly!)



Because everyone in this system is corrupt and already knows the answer.



Yes, that.



Eh, why bother. :effort:



quote:

In a different world, where I'm feeling less beaten down by the system, we manage to object.

Mr. Edgeworth, you owe an explanation to the court!

Why didn't this witness testify in the trial against Ms. Maya Fey!?

Hmph.

I'm ever so sorry!

Mr. White is a busy man, and besides...

at the time, I thought that Ms. May's opinion was all that would be needed.

Again, my sincerest apologies to the court.

Excellent, Mr. Edgeworth. I appreciate your demeanor.

...

(Great. He gets to show off and I get nowhere.)

Yeah, not sorry I missed out on that the first time around.



Let's just get this farce over with.





Ugh I am going to enjoy taking this guy down if we're allowed to do so.

Please state your full name.





:stare: I did not think this guy could actually get worse!

Er... your name?



Oh dear, do my locutions confuse?



Name!



Our one ray of hope so far - Mr. White and Mr. Edgeworth do not seem to mesh well together.



:roflolmao: While that may literally mean "white boy", it's really more used as a pejorative insult.

I am the CEO, or to use a more common term, the President, of Bluecorp.



I imagine that Edgeworth is closing his eyes to regain his patience here.



...



Correct.

And you witnessed the murder from there?







We have no real evidence, so I'm somewhat at a loss here, but I guess we'll see what happens.



Because it is and you are!

Ho hoh hoh.



I hope you have made your peace with God, Mr. Lawyer!

...!



Oh, hey, Maya's going to help us out! Suddenly I feel much better.

Music: Silence



Music: Questioning - Moderato

Let's see, it was about 9:00, I believe.



Then I heard a bedlam coming from outside!

Surprised, I turned to look at the building across the way.



Needless to say that man was none other than you, Mr. Lawyer!

I called Miss May over at once. She, too, was flabbergasted of course.





Music: Silence



Hmm...



I suppose at least he said "if"? What are we supposed to do with that testimony? Lies from beginning to end, but no way to prove it!



Your cross-examination...

Yes, Your Honor.



I was going to stop here, but it's not really clear what to do next, so let's press a little first.

Music: Questioning - Moderato

Let's see, it was about 9:00, I believe.







No no no, you're not getting away with that!

You are so mistrusting, Mr. Lawyer!

So... what was the proper term for "secretary" again...?



It happened soon after the room service arrived.



We didn't come all this way to let this guy off easy, let's keep pushing.

True, the bellboy who brought the coffee saw Miss May.



But he testified that he did not see you at the time!

Ahem. This is your concern?





(Hmm...)



quote:

Holding back is a lot shorter and less interesting, of course:

(I don't see anything to gain by attacking him on this point any further.)

Okay, what were you doing at the time?

I was quietly perusifying... er, that's "reading" to you, some papers by the window.





Correct! That is the only window, you see.

And there you were reading... papers?

Correct!



Hmm, not much there either.

Then I heard a bedlam coming from outside!



A "bedlam"?



We see. Continue.

Surprised, I turned to look at the building across the way.









Come on, give me something!

It was then I saw him: a spiky-haired man attacking a woman with long hair!





That's all we get for that one. We're halfway through the testimony and still have nothing.

Needless to say that man was none other than you, Mr. Lawyer!







Miss May clearly stated that the assailant looked like a "girl"!

I've always been proud of my eyesight, Mr. Lawyer.



No, don't get distracted, stay on topic!



Counting both eyes... 40!

40!? Don't add them together!



(Hey, whose side is the judge on, anyway?)

Clearly not ours, have you not been paying attention?



I called Miss May over at once. She, too, was flabbergasted of course.



What was Miss May doing at that time?





Dude, that was random.





Looks like Edgeworth agrees.

Irrelevant! That has nothing to do with the case at hand.





You'd make a good politician, Mr. White.



Please continue.

The victim, she... she ran away, but you gave chase!





I think it's worth knowing exactly what happened.

Of course! Comprende! I understand!



You gave chase, and struck her down!





As you know, I am always abso-posi-lutely perfect!





Indeed, the testimony changes! Let's press again, just to be sure.



Are you sure about that?

How many times must I say it?



I am abso-posi-lutely perfect! End of story!

(How many times must I hear that?)



Doesn't something about that strike you as a little odd?

Not really, but your interjection here tells me that line is the one on which I'm supposed to present something.

Finally there was a terrible impaction! Then it was all over...



Um... "impaction"? Don't you mean just "impact"?



(On second thought, perhaps I'd better leave the whole language thing alone...)

Well, we've reached the end of the testimony, any advice for us Phoenix?



(Anyway, I'd better find a weakness in there...)



Well, there's our evidence list. What should we present?

LJN92
Mar 5, 2014

I think you've done that thing with the poll again, cause I can't vote.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



C'mon Wright, you can take this doofus down!

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DKII
Oct 21, 2010

LJN92 posted:

I think you've done that thing with the poll again, cause I can't vote.

Weird, I wonder if they're closing automatically if I create them too early.

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