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Count Thrashula posted:It's not just that they forget about him, he returns looking completely different and using a different name, so it's not like they'd be suspicious. Crusader posted:dunno how the show will do it but in the lore he calls himself by a new name, in a new guise, so the elves don't know he's sauron until he forges the one ring This, but also the elves (aside from "crazy" people like Galadrial) thought he was gone. They spent centuries on a dangerous, difficult search looking for signs of him and the closest they got was some sigil in a long abandoned stronghold in that icy hell. Plus elves apparently died on that fruitless search. The High King's somewhat understandable attitude toward Galadrial is "Go take your reward in the West. I'm not going to waste more time, energy and otherwise immortal elven lives looking for somebody who no longer exists." The elves don't expect Sauron to show up as a threat any more than people today would expect Adolph Hitler to show back up.
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THE BAR posted:Blind Guardian's awesome album Nightfall in Middle Earth is entirely about Silmarillion. Did they manage to get the rights, or is music somehow different? I just got my gf new headphones as a gift and one of the first songs she went to, despite not being a huge metal fan, was Nightfall. God that's such a good loving album, coincidentally I had explained to her about the songs (Morgoth stealing the silmarils) so when we watched the prologue she was like "oooh that's the treelight from the song" and it was great that just a quick going over Into the Storm gave her enough context to be excited about a book adaptation she never read.
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bagrada posted:That's not Anson Boon but actress Bridie Sisson, recently played a tweaker casino robber at the start of Cowboy Bebop. Per Time and an executive producer from this link from August. Character background minor spoiler (link text is misleading it just says the Eminem looking char isn't the big S): Huh, every article I've seen has labelled them as Anson Boon, hard to tell with the makeup I guess.
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Hammerstein posted:It would mean that they have to cut out the whole series of good kings that Numénor had and go straight to the bad stuff. That's also a drastic cut in terms of lore, cause we won't get to see the good sides of the early Numénorians and why their lineage produced heroes like Aragorn even thousands of years later. Instead it will likely be an island full of wicked fools and no one would feel bad if they sink into the sea. The tragedy of Numénor was how good men could be so corrupted. They planned to do the same thing again a thousand years later but Sauron learned his lesson and surrendered, corrupting them and leading to their downfall. As it turns out having overwhelming military might doesn't count for much if the entire political class becomes corrupted.
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Hammerstein posted:I wonder they are are going to glue that together. I expect we'll be shown how good Numenor and experience its downfall when a few seasons in, beloved character Boat Guy becomes a Nazgul after being revealed as the king of Numenor 
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Plucky Brit posted:Also Numenor fought a war against Sauron where they won victory after victory with minimal casualties, eventually routing Sauron's forces from the north. So Donald Trump is a louder, dumber Sauron. That fits. One thing that's a little weird about this show is that Hobbits/Harfoots never seemed like they should be hot, but Nori is kind of smoking, messy twig hair and all.
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Mameluke posted:You literally can't be racist to Scots lmao we invented trains How does "invented trains" preclude racism?  I don't even think it is, and I don't generally care about bad Irish accents in media or anything, even as an Irish person, but I'm just confused on how that logic connects. Also, while James Watt did invent the modern conception of a train, ancient civilizations such as the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians and Greeks built roads with specific wheel-ruts deliberately cut into rock that allowed wagons to be pulled by horses or bulls, without any need for steering. The Diolkos, a 6km stretch of wagonway in use from maybe the 6th Century BC to the 1st Century AD and used to transfer boats across a stretch of land rather than needing to navigate further by dangerous seas is often seen as the first railway for this reason 
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Everyone posted:One thing that's a little weird about this show is that Hobbits/Harfoots never seemed like they should be hot, but Nori is kind of smoking, messy twig hair and all. I won't stand for this Rosie erasure.
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Everyone posted:So Donald Trump is a louder, dumber Sauron. That fits.
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Do the Harfoots put twigs in their hair on purpose or do they just have zero hygiene whatsoever. Imagine how bad Harfoot town smells.
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Regarding the timelines, the creators have already said they’re going to have to compress a lot. Mostly because immortal elves experiencing events over thousands of years doesn’t lend itself well to a TV series that contains mortal humans, dwarves, and harfoots (Harfeet!). And frankly that’s a really good decision. They can tell the history of Numenor in a series of flashbacks or some montage while Isildur is talking to Galadriel or something. Besides, storytelling 101 is like “Numenor was a perfect little town UNTIL ONE DAY…”
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BoldFace posted:This armor design seemed incredibly bland to me. I swear to god the shoulder pieces are large-sized paper plates
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cake bunny posted:While you're absolutely right that it's for legal reasons Given the in-show map moved around a bit, someone put the locations ontop of a map of middle earth (in the third age) for people wondering where things were taking place in relation to everyone else. Whoever made it got the location of Eregion wrong though, the in-show map has it further south at the next river, about where the second N is in Glandurin river, right in the foothills of the Misty Mountains.  Galadrial went from the far North then back to Lindon on the coast then off on a boat West. Elrond went East, inland from Lindon with Celebrimbor to Eregion and then took a day-trip North to Moria. The humans we've met are living in a future bad spot. The Harfoots are just roaming around the place but might be on the move soon. And Galadrial and Raft Human are about to head to Numenor which is an island West South West of the compass on the map. Edit: Looks like Amazon have chucked up a high res show map here, so explore that instead: https://www.amazon.com/adlp/lotronprime drunkill fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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Elentor posted:I just got my gf new headphones as a gift and one of the first songs she went to, despite not being a huge metal fan, was Nightfall. God that's such a good loving album, coincidentally I had explained to her about the songs (Morgoth stealing the silmarils) so when we watched the prologue she was like "oooh that's the treelight from the song" and it was great that just a quick going over Into the Storm gave her enough context to be excited about a book adaptation she never read. It is such a good album. Honestly given how music is so important to Tolkien's writing telling major parts of thr Silmarillion through song makes it probably the best adaptation we'll get. Have you heard some of the songs that weren't on the original album release? The Tides of War, Harvest of Sorrow, and Doom are also kickass tracks.
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doesn't amazon not own the full rights to the lore bible? like they cannot specifically showcase somethings because the estate didn't give them permission to so they have to either indirectly reference it or act like it didn't exist? i remember seeing an article about it during production that they had like literal estate people there acting as a lore judge to see if they would break the contract/rights purchased. edit; gotta read the thread, gotta finish reading the thread before smacking that post button really loving hard.
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Arc Hammer posted:It is such a good album. Honestly given how music is so important to Tolkien's writing telling major parts of thr Silmarillion through song makes it probably the best adaptation we'll get. That one piano note change in The Eldar is so stupidly evocative.
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So, where was the clip going around on Twitter from where it was just characters looking at the camera over a black background? People were making it sound like the show intro, so I was surprised when episode 2 had a proper (and quite pleasant!) opening credits sequence.
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Chieves posted:So, where was the clip going around on Twitter from where it was just characters looking at the camera over a black background? People were making it sound like the show intro, so I was surprised when episode 2 had a proper (and quite pleasant!) opening credits sequence. Entertainment Weekly, the magazine. It came from their website or Instagram or something.
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Count Thrashula posted:Entertainment Weekly, the magazine. It came from their website or Instagram or something. Gotcha. The sitcom music meme was right up my alley, so I was a twinge disappointed that I couldn't think about that again during the opening crawl. Boy, EW promo stills and video are just universally terrible, huh?
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https://www.amazon.com/fmc/m/30004313/ref=atv_dp_exp_rop_s1_oando_7_fresh?almBrandId=QW1hem9uIEZyZXNo&ref_=US_TRF_ALL_MDL_RTL_OTHER_0453147 These are pretty good recipes, both in terms of how they thematically fit the race they're named for and how tasty they look. Except for the elves of Lindon, who I guess eat pizza?
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Celebrimbor's fingers covered in grease as he tears in to some fried chicken, just slopping chunks in honey mustard and washing it all down with Bud Light.
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William Bear posted:https://www.amazon.com/fmc/m/30004313/ref=atv_dp_exp_rop_s1_oando_7_fresh?almBrandId=QW1hem9uIEZyZXNo&ref_=US_TRF_ALL_MDL_RTL_OTHER_0453147 Pizza is a really old food, but it didn't enter the English-speaking world until recently. Flatbread with lard and cheese toppings go back to the Roman empire. Of course, tomato is a more recent addition. The anchovy pizza recipe there could have come from any time in the last 2000 years.
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unlimited shrimp posted:Celebrimbor's fingers covered in grease as he tears in to some fried chicken, just slopping chunks in honey mustard and washing it all down with Bud Light. At last, a shot that will surpass "extreme close up of Denethor eating chicken"!
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William Bear posted:https://www.amazon.com/fmc/m/30004313/ref=atv_dp_exp_rop_s1_oando_7_fresh?almBrandId=QW1hem9uIEZyZXNo&ref_=US_TRF_ALL_MDL_RTL_OTHER_0453147 Very disappointed there's no recipe for manflesh with maggoty bread.
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Funky See Funky Do posted:This show is the equivalent to LoTR lore what a Star Wars spin off writing out Anakin Skywalker meeting Padme would be. Or a Star Wars spin off where they have a character called Darth Vader except he's kind of a shot skittish guy that doesn't project much confidence or show much aptitude for the Force. A terrible adaptation of the appendices of the Lord of The Rings trilogy?
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How they decided Eregion is where soul food comes from I just can't guess but I'm down.
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cake bunny posted:I don't think anyone's likely to release the actual rights contract, but they for sure don't have access to anything from the Silmarillion, as that has been outright stated by both the estate and by folks involved with the show. I'd originally thought they had most of everything else open to them based on some early interviews with show folks, but then that giant holding company mentioned earlier in the thread turned out to have bought a bunch of those rights recently, too, so I guess not! They could still have received a license before the giant holding company bought those rights, but from what I read Amazon went straight to the Tolkien estate instead of the owner of the rights to LoTR due to a loophole in the previous owner’s rights (who had only bought the rights for a show up to 8 episodes per season), so even that is unlikely. rkd_ fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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rkd_ posted:A terrible adaptation of the appendices of the Lord of The Rings trilogy? I reread them this morning, one of them is basically Duolingo, which is probably where the series does it’s GoT S8 cliff dive.
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THE BAR posted:That one piano note change in The Eldar is so stupidly evocative. My favourite song on the album is constantly in rotation because they're all perfectly synced with their given subject. Time Stands Still at the Iron Hill stands above the rest, though.
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stev posted:I won't stand for this Rosie erasure. Nor should you as Rosie's clearly got it goin' on as well. smoobles posted:Do the Harfoots put twigs in their hair on purpose or do they just have zero hygiene whatsoever. It's camouflage to protect the Harfoot's from horny Menfolk because humans can and will gently caress anyone and anything.
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Arc Hammer posted:Have you heard some of the songs that weren't on the original album release? The Tides of War, Harvest of Sorrow, and Doom are also kickass tracks. Yeah they're amazing. I'm glad they're not in the original release because as much as I love harvest of sorrow I think the og release is paced perfectly as it is and like, a balad there even if a god-tier one would sort of mess up what is to me an album that just flows perfectly. Arc Hammer posted:probably the best adaptation we'll get. Given that the world was made by the music of eru it's only fitting that the best adaptation possible for the silmarillion is a chaotic, metal album.
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Arc Hammer posted:My favourite song on the album is constantly in rotation because they're all perfectly synced with their given subject. Time Stands Still at the Iron Hill stands above the rest, though. Losing the little interludes in the remaster was a crime, though.
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THE BAR posted:Losing the little interludes in the remaster was a crime, though. The new release doesn't have the bits of narration? That's such a shame. At least they're in the 2007 remaster.
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Best thing about streaming music, is that you can just make a custom playlist without those narrations. Great album, but I'm here to listen some music.
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Justin Credible posted:I swear to god the shoulder pieces are large-sized paper plates All the money must've went on VFX because this is hilarious compared to what we're seeing in HOT D right now
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Everyone posted:It's camouflage to protect the Harfoot's from horny Menfolk because humans can and will gently caress anyone and anything. Humans rock
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Plucky Brit posted:Also Numenor fought a war against Sauron where they won victory after victory with minimal casualties, eventually routing Sauron's forces from the north. My guess is that they'll compress things and have have Sauron go with the surrender-and-corrupt plan the first time the Numenoreans sail in to wreck his poo poo.
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unlimited shrimp posted:Humans rock Humans are utterly terrifying apex sexual predators. Why aren't there any Neanderthals any more? Because we hosed them to death. The orcs on the show weren't hiding from namby-pamby elves. They were scared that the humans were still thirsty for pig-people.
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THE BAR posted:Losing the little interludes in the remaster was a crime, though. I was literally listening to the remaster today and it still has all the narration?
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