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Murgos posted:Just pointing out that soldiers in a war zone have better trigger discipline and are more cautious of collateral damage than cops in the US. Cops are a lot more circumspect with their violence when they know that the other side is armed.
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Ukranian soldiers probably care about their country and citizens, and try to differentiate between them and the invaders. US cops view their country and citizens AS the invaders.
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The drat Russian military is more competent at their job than US cops. Seriously, once you visit another 1st-world country and encounter cops there, it's like night & day between theirs and ours
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This is such a simple, stupid joke but ONN executes it so well I laugh like hell every time I rewatch it.
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Sep 5, 2022 15:26
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Jimmy Smuts posted:The drat Russian military is more competent at their job than US cops. Not really but post whatever you want I guess
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Jimmy Smuts posted:The drat Russian military is more competent at their job than US cops. I am a brown Spanish-speaking person, Cops in Spain are just as racist and violent as the ones in Chicago. French cops are pretty lovely but I can't understand them so I don't know why they're being assholes.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:https://twitter.com/copesint/status/1566739796696764417?s=21&t=HUqqK3uuQJzDApMH4h1z6Q Heh you see, an honest assessment of the skills of the trainees so deficiencies can be addressed is actually bad news. It's ok to have piss poor soldiers, just lie about their level of training! No one will know the difference!
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The X-man cometh posted:I am a brown Spanish-speaking person, Cops in Spain are just as racist and violent as the ones in Chicago. I retract my comment then. Jimmy Smuts fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Sep 5, 2022 |
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Jimmy Smuts posted:drat, is that the case there? I wasn't tracking that. Riot cops are bad worldwide, beat cops are varied in their shittiness.
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Uncle Enzo posted:Heh you see, an honest assessment of the skills of the trainees so deficiencies can be addressed is actually bad news. It's ok to have piss poor soldiers, just lie about their level of training! No one will know the difference! I love the conclusion 'I hope this report I've written kinda just goes somewhere and is read by someone'
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tbf, in countries where they don't let the police have guns, it does feel like the odds of getting shot by the police are exceptionally low
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Jimmy Smuts posted:The drat Russian military is more competent at their job than US cops. I'll take my small-town US Cop that grew up in a society that encourages firearms training/possession among its citizenry than the Yakutian/Dagestani conscript that lived with grudges that span centuries. US cops have obviously grown a horrendous reputation across the country but I would still turn to them over the Russian military.
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Uncle Enzo posted:Heh you see, an honest assessment of the skills of the trainees so deficiencies can be addressed is actually bad news. It's ok to have piss poor soldiers, just lie about their level of training! No one will know the difference! document’s fake dude it’s written on the form the us army uses for administrative counseling of junior enlisted soldiers
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hypnophant posted:document’s fake dude Yep. A form which you can download off the internet apparently.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Yep. A form which you can download off the internet apparently. That's true of a whole lot of forms. I recently went on a tour of the TRADOC archives and man, there's so much there. None of it shouldn't be there, mind you, just that there's enough to probably teach most of what you need to know to run a military, which is rather the whole point.
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CabooseRvB posted:I'll take my small-town US Cop that grew up in a society that encourages firearms training/possession among its citizenry than the Yakutian/Dagestani conscript that lived with grudges that span centuries. Definitely no centuries-spanning grudges between segments of the population in the US 
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That’s interesting about the forms. Not surprising about stuff floating around. Looking at old war college archives I found tons of cool briefing books on wartime Japan, civil and military, such as firefighters to the kenpai, so I’m not shocked even things not mean to be there are there (granted my case that wasn’t an issue) In you know someone is hosed news. I mean Jesus Christ imagine buying stuff that’s for the KPA. Russia Is Buying North Korean Artillery, According to U.S. Intelligence Moscow’s purchase of millions of shells and rockets from North Korea is a sign that global sanctions have hampered the Russian military’s supply lines. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/05/us/politics/russia-north-korea-artillery.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
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Marshal Prolapse posted:That’s interesting about the forms. Not surprising about stuff floating around. Looking at old war college archives I found tons of cool briefing books on wartime Japan, civil and military, such as firefighters to the kenpai, so I’m not shocked even things not mean to be there are there (granted my case that wasn’t an issue) How is Russia paying for this? Is NK accepting Rubles?
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Marshal Prolapse posted:That’s interesting about the forms. Not surprising about stuff floating around. Looking at old war college archives I found tons of cool briefing books on wartime Japan, civil and military, such as firefighters to the kenpai, so I’m not shocked even things not mean to be there are there (granted my case that wasn’t an issue) Who wants to bet that only about 25% of those work.
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A.o.D. posted:How is Russia paying for this? Is NK accepting Rubles? I would imagine NK has considerable debts with Russia that are open ledger not the least of which is the "secret" of Kim Il Sung's birthplace at Mount Paektu
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Or just… energy
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Since this technically runs afoul of UN sanctions, and assuming they're being transported by ship (rail and air would be too limited and slow), what's to stop the US or any other country from seizing the vessels when they leave port?
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A.o.D. posted:How is Russia paying for this? Is NK accepting Rubles? They'll probably take just about anything Russia will give them. Oil, coal, food, promises to replace what they buy with newer/better stuff in a few years, etc etc.
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psydude posted:Who wants to bet that only about 25% of those work. I think the most optimistic view for North Korea a decade ago was that 75% were good.
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psydude posted:Since this technically runs afoul of UN sanctions, and assuming they're being transported by ship (rail and air would be too limited and slow), what's to stop the US or any other country from seizing the vessels when they leave port? Russia declaring a blockade an act of war, I'd guess. I can't say they'd be 100% wrong, but they dug their hole.
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aphid_licker posted:Definitely no centuries-spanning grudges between segments of the population in the US I mean, some of the folks there (Dagestan and Georgia) have grudges that span the centuries. I think the best thing we did was provide "sovereignty" to the Native tribes (or what remains) and make their lands mostly exempt from certain state and federal laws. Better than still stating they shouldnt exist outright nowadays like some countries are doing *cough* Russia *cough*
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A.o.D. posted:That's true of a whole lot of forms. I recently went on a tour of the TRADOC archives and man, there's so much there. None of it shouldn't be there, mind you, just that there's enough to probably teach most of what you need to know to run a military, which is rather the whole point. I'm telling ya, if we just airdrop a pallet of translated ranger handbooks into the region, the Ukrainians would be rolling through Volgograd in a week. gently caress, sorry for the double tap.
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psydude posted:Since this technically runs afoul of UN sanctions, and assuming they're being transported by ship (rail and air would be too limited and slow), what's to stop the US or any other country from seizing the vessels when they leave port? Tumangang has a major rail line going straight to Vladivostok so some transport is feasible.
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psydude posted:Since this technically runs afoul of UN sanctions, and assuming they're being transported by ship (rail and air would be too limited and slow), what's to stop the US or any other country from seizing the vessels when they leave port? Trains and geography
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Tumangang has a major rail line going straight to Vladivostok so some transport is feasible. I kinda forgot they share a border there!
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I've every confidence that Russia isn't going to somehow gently caress up transporting poo poo 10,000km to Belgorod, leaving poo poo exposed to elements and falling victim to dilapidated transportation networks across some of the most inhospitable terrain on earth. It might work when they put them in the trucks/trailers/train cars, but if it'll work by the time they get it to the front...that's anyone's guess. One thing I do have confidence in is NK's ability to make poo poo for poo poo from the 50s and 60s really well. Of course, the other important thing to infer from this is the Russians probably asked India and China first and were told  .
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Tumangang has a major rail line going straight to Vladivostok so some transport is feasible. Also, the PLAN is right off the coast doing live fire exercises as part of Vostok 2022.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Tumangang has a major rail line going straight to Vladivostok so some transport is feasible. Maybe so. But their rail infrastructure is also under strain due to sanctions so I imagine getting it from the east of Russia to the Ukranian border would be challenging, if it can be done at all.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:That’s interesting about the forms. Not surprising about stuff floating around. Looking at old war college archives I found tons of cool briefing books on wartime Japan, civil and military, such as firefighters to the kenpai, so I’m not shocked even things not mean to be there are there (granted my case that wasn’t an issue) lol irl about the logistics cost of breakbulk transporting millions of shells from the DPRK border to fuckin Crimea
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brains posted:lol irl about the logistics cost of breakbulk transporting millions of shells from the DPRK border to fuckin Crimea 
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Midjack posted:I kinda forgot they share a border there! China would really prefer that they didn't.
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Fearless posted:I wonder if the North Koreans use pallets for shipping ordnance or munitions. Can you imagine that poo poo arriving in Russia on pallets and then having to be broken down for shipment to Ukraine? First thing I thought
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