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I said come in! posted:For Logic Pro goons; what are the settings and guitar effects that you're using? I'm very new to the software, and guitar playing in general. Wanting to get a very heavy metal sound but have been unhappy with what is included with Logic Pro, and I'm wondering if I just don't understand all of the settings, and need to tweak things. I just don't know where to look or start. Guitar Rig in Garage Band was "fine" (unsatisfying and thin but basically right) w/ minimal tweaking. I can't remember if I did that because I didn't wanna open logic or they didn't port it for some reason. I've never liked playing live via interface even in synth land and got more out of a Sansamp into my inst in than doing the amp stuff ITB. other people ITT swear by Neural DSP rigs.
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widefault posted:I had just the headphone amp(Prime P1), it was not very good. The software interface is terrible, and you really need it because the presets are terrible. It also sounds like a cheap headphone amp. Better as a multi-effect into an amp, but you need to use the app to turn off the amp and cab modeling for that to sound good. It also was in a cheap plastic housing. And a really bad manual, so I ended up spending a bunch if time trying to figure out what did what. Boo to that, but someone's going to get it right so that's still exciting. Those Mooer/Joyo/Donner guys are trying a lot of stuff.
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I said come in! posted:For Logic Pro goons; what are the settings and guitar effects that you're using? I'm very new to the software, and guitar playing in general. Wanting to get a very heavy metal sound but have been unhappy with what is included with Logic Pro, and I'm wondering if I just don't understand all of the settings, and need to tweak things. I just don't know where to look or start. Logic’s built in amp sims are pretty bad, I’d recommend just jumping to a plug-in. Top of the line plugins are gonna be like Helix Native or something from NeuralDSP, but you’ll pay for it. AmpliTube or Bias FX will still be a step up but will be significantly cheaper. Also want to toss out Rhino as an option, it’s way less flexible than every other option but it sounds really good and is a great all-in-one effect, and not having a zillion amp models is actually kind of nice from an analysis paralysis perspective.
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Arcsech posted:Logic’s built in amp sims are pretty bad, I’d recommend just jumping to a plug-in. Top of the line plugins are gonna be like Helix Native or something from NeuralDSP, but you’ll pay for it. AmpliTube or Bias FX will still be a step up but will be significantly cheaper. Also want to toss out Rhino as an option, it’s way less flexible than every other option but it sounds really good and is a great all-in-one effect, and not having a zillion amp models is actually kind of nice from an analysis paralysis perspective. Thank you, and JamesKPolk too for the help. I appreciate the clarification that Logic Pro has bad amp sims, I thought maybe I was just bad. I mean I am, but that's not necessarily the only problem here.
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I said come in! posted:Thank you, and JamesKPolk too for the help. I appreciate the clarification that Logic Pro has bad amp sims, I thought maybe I was just bad. I mean I am, but that's not necessarily the only problem here. Almost everything is gonna let you demo it. Guitar rig, s-gear, and helix native all have trials so make good use of them and see which one of them suits you best s-gear is the cheapest and probably middle of the pack for me skip guitar rig, it's too digital if you have the money for it, helix native will likely not disappoint but really any of them can be made to sound alright with enough post-processing/multi-tracking
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If you can wait until Black Friday, NeuralDSP usually puts their plugins on sale for 50% off. They let you demo all of them for 2 weeks, so maybe start playing with them now and decide which one you want to buy
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If you're targeting old school metal tones, especially black/death/thrash you might find all these plugins sound too good. I don't know if throwing IRs into the mix is too overwhelming if you're just getting into plugins but if you want those old school metal tones then Ugritone had some great IRs.
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If you got $60 the first tier of bias fx is pretty good, they have a super limited version for free but I think there are not many metal-ish pieces of gear available in the free one
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Free good option is Ignite Amps Emissary and their Nadir cabinet loader
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here's one for landgrabber https://twitter.com/d_feldman/status/1565772419209564166
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So what does anyone know about Samick Valley Arts Custom strats from the 90s, because I just impulse bought one with an offer from drunken reverbing last night. It's got fender pickups in it at least so those are probably nearly worth the purchase price even if the rest of it is somehow trash
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Decent to really good, made in Korea. https://samick.fandom.com/wiki/American_Classic_Series Should be able to find your model there
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SSM-1 lefty with fender noiseless installed. I like the odds of that playing alright. Someone put some money into it I paid 300 all in so I feel pretty alright about that I guess
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I've had a desire for an ambient reverb pedal for a while, just to make some weird chill noises. Looking at the OBNE Dark Star but are there other ones I should perhaps consider? Watched this demo and love it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqYigPRDdUw
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I've recommended it here before but the EQD Dispatch Master is a really dope ambient reverb/delay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXb3XRTsfTo The Dark Star also looks really cool but despite having it on my Reverb watch list forever I still haven't actually picked one up yet. I think either one would work really well for chill ambient noise making
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Clayton Bigsby posted:I've had a desire for an ambient reverb pedal for a while, just to make some weird chill noises. Looking at the OBNE Dark Star but are there other ones I should perhaps consider? does it need to be a pedal? valhalla supermassive is amazing for ambient reverbs, $0 in your daw of choice.
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creamcorn posted:does it need to be a pedal? valhalla supermassive is amazing for ambient reverbs, $0 in your daw of choice. Yeah, I usually just go straight into an amp and like it that way. That Dispatch Master sounds wonderful but doesn't seem to get quite as nutty as the Dark Star though. But man, what a sweet reverb/delay combo.
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I haven't tried the Dark Star because I heard it has noise issues. Love OBNE though, and that demo does sound really good. I use Earthquaker Astral Destiny, Walrus Fathom and Walrus Slotva. Astral Destiny does things more like that including the pitch effect, lots of modes on it too if you're looking for something flexible (and 8 preset slots). But the Dark Star has pretty unique capabilities that none of these do exactly, I might end up with one of those too - the guy Brady behind OBNE has a hell of a track record in the industry and some unique thinking about how to put together effects. He started with Keeley, founded Walrus, and his FV-1 pedals have a cool factor to their sounds for sure (I use the Visitor and Black Fountain V3 from him, love those!). I like to use the Slotva's "Dream" algorith with its pad hold effect with its nice modulation and then kick on the Fathom in its Sonar mode (octave up and down) for a cool layered verb tone, since when Slotva is holding the signal through it is no longer effected. I actually sent my Fathom to Walrus within the last few weeks to have them mod it to have a different output level, they did a killer job and did not charge for it. OBNE pedals have a trim you can adjust on your own though to do the same thing, so... Agreed fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Sep 5, 2022 |
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I have an Afterneath which is loving sick and makes amazing sounds. Super cool little thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYjj7q14dc edit: actually this is the one i have https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JckOCZFDyM
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i saw an ad for earthquaker stuff (from the earthquaker account) being on sale cause labor day. not much but for whatever it's worth. i still want a dunes but i don't have any money lol
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Re: weezer: I think a lot of their later stuff isn't bad, just a bit inconsistent. There are some really cool ideas on EWBAITE (especially guitar -wise) and Van Weezer is a ton of fun and has some really catchy songs. I also really like a lot of the sound of OK Human, and I like that Weezer is still experimenting with their sound after like 3 decades of playing.
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EQD makes amazing stuff, I fully recommend them. The Levitation is my favourite reverb right now, it's spooky psychedelic goodness. The Plumes is loving great and versatile as hell too. On the topic of Weezer, I don't pay the most attention to them now (or before if I'm honest) but you're a fool if you think Thank God For Girls is not an absolute loving banger. Rivers can still write the gently caress out of a song. And the guitar tones on The White Album are to die for. That's my Weezer input thanks for listening.
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rivers voice: IF YOU WANT TO DESTROY MY GENDER
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I liked blue and Pinkerton some cool riffs and tones
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Idk Weezer comes up a lot in this thread and they are a band that completely slides off me like water off Teflon. When I was first told that they were super influential to emo and that people tone chased their guitar tones as much as they do I was surprised a lot. I like plenty of music that is Sad Boys Singing but just very not River’s flavor of sad boy
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I really did not like the dispatch master I had. There’s no modulation option or footswitch ability to use the reverb/delay independently. It’s felt limited to just variations if one sound and I demand MORE from my reverb computers.
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There's a possibility I could pick up an Epiphone Les Paul Special II for £65. What do you guys think? I know they're super budget level, but is it worth having around? It'd be quite different from my Fenders, I guess.
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I feel like a quote out of context Withholding the rest So I can be for you what you want to see I've got the gesture and sounds Got the timing down It's uncanny, yeah, you'd think it was me
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Disco Pope posted:There's a possibility I could pick up an Epiphone Les Paul Special II for £65. What do you guys think? I know they're super budget level, but is it worth having around? It'd be quite different from my Fenders, I guess. A beater guitar is always nice to have around. It could make a pretty good tinkering project too. I’ve had only Fender-esque guitars for a while, and the SG I picked up recently is a nice break from them. I think I’m still more of a Fender person though.
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Dr. Faustus posted:I feel like a quote out of context 
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massive spider posted:I really did not like the dispatch master I had. There’s no modulation option or footswitch ability to use the reverb/delay independently. It’s felt limited to just variations if one sound and I demand MORE from my reverb computers. I have a Strymon Big Sky. It sounds absolutely amazing and there are near infinite options for type, modulation, and tone. You can dial in pretty much any sort of reverb sound you can imagine. Its an amazing pedal. That said, 99% of the time when I play through an amp I end up using the Dispatch Master or EHX Holy Grail for reverb because they just sound good out of the box on pretty much any setting. Except Flerb. No one uses Flerb.
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nitsuga posted:A beater guitar is always nice to have around. It could make a pretty good tinkering project too. I’ve had only Fender-esque guitars for a while, and the SG I picked up recently is a nice break from them. I think I’m still more of a Fender person though. I passed in the end. (Very brief, but relevant E/N) I quit drinking recently, and any money that would have been spent in a bar or on a bottle of wine is going into a guitar fund, so the promise of a G&L, Reverend or maybe even an SG is keeping me from craving a cheeky pint and it feels a bit early to break into that fund for an impulse buy.
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Disco Pope posted:I passed in the end. (Very brief, but relevant E/N) I quit drinking recently
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Disco Pope posted:There's a possibility I could pick up an Epiphone Les Paul Special II for £65. What do you guys think? I know they're super budget level, but is it worth having around? It'd be quite different from my Fenders, I guess. you made the right move, these things are complete pieces of poo poo
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first bunch of hardware has arrived for stratocaster #4 :')
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Strats own. I finally fixed one of the things that was driving me nuts about the used strat I got - the selector switch was flipped the wrong side up. I opened it up and saw why - one of the wires was way too short to have it the other way around Clearly whoever wired it up was following a right-handed picture and had it flipped in their head and just left it that way took like a minute to swap out the too-short wire for a longer one and now I can play it without going insane about up being the bridge pickup
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Dr. Faustus posted:Congratulations, Disco Pope. Thank you! I realise this is babby's first theory and ear training, but I figured out most of "Mad This Summer" last night and I'm still on a high from it. Doctor Dogballs posted:you made the right move, these things are complete pieces of poo poo Yeah... the Paul Westerberg fan in me got snared by the idea of a beater Les Paul, but everything I read suggested that even at that price I wasn't going to enjoy it much. Wowporn posted:Idk Weezer comes up a lot in this thread and they are a band that completely slides off me like water off Teflon. When I was first told that they were super influential to emo and that people tone chased their guitar tones as much as they do I was surprised a lot. I like plenty of music that is Sad Boys Singing but just very not River’s flavor of sad boy I think the tone on Blue is great, but I've always been perplexed by the idea Weezer were influential to emo, but I guess by the early 2000s power-pop, emo and pop-punk were all intersecting on the Venn diagram of sad white boy music. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Sep 7, 2022 |
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Hey all, I've got a 70s Gibson acoustic of some sort that used to be my dad's before he gifted it to me about a decade ago. It's got a lot of nostalgia value to us both, he bought it new and it's one of the guitars I learned to play on, but it needs some work to really be playable; the action is REAL high. It's not fully original as he and my uncle apparently did a restoration, possibly including a refinish, back in there 90s: at the very least i know they had to take photos of the serial number and send them off to Gibson in order to get a new decal for the headstock. The tuners have been replaced, probably by them, and the bridge saddle does not look like a setup I'd expect from a luthier so they probably replaced that too, it's got deep grooves filed in it for the strings to ride in. Bridge is a weird design where the strings pull straight through on the top side and the break angle over the saddle is real shallow, almost flat. There's no sticker inside so I don't even know what particular model I've got, all I have is the serial number (hard to read but appears to be 517844) and "made in USA" which makes it an early 70s model. To my understanding those are some of the least desirable Gibsons so I don't imagine I'm getting a collector windfall or anything. Really I'm just trying to get a feel for whether it's worth the cost for a major repair like the neck reset it probably needs, or if I'm better off putting it on display and putting that money into a modern acoustic instead.   
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Disco Pope posted:I passed in the end. (Very brief, but relevant E/N) I quit drinking recently, and any money that would have been spent in a bar or on a bottle of wine is going into a guitar fund, so the promise of a G&L, Reverend or maybe even an SG is keeping me from craving a cheeky pint and it feels a bit early to break into that fund for an impulse buy. Good for you! I quit drinking years ago and its really important to find an activity (and community) that's not drinking related to focus on in order to be successful. And yeah, good idea passing on that epi les paul. I had one a long time ago and it was poo poo. Newer versions might be better but the older 90's to early 2000's ones were garbage for sure, at least in my experience
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I've got a Fender Player Telecaster HH that I picked up a few months ago. At the time I was really torn between the SS and HH configurations, I've always loved the look and feel of a Tele but generally prefer heavier humbucker sounds. But I do love the single coil tele tones too so I spent a long time going back and forth between the two in the shop. In the end I decided that the split coil tones on the HH were about good enough and for the most part they are - the neck coil split has that really nice chimey, bell-like quality that I really like on the SS tele, and even when it's not split the bridge pickup sounds pretty spanky and only gets more so when you split it. It's super versatile, tone-wise. The only problem I find is that the output when the pickups are split is a little weak. My amp's a Roland Cube 40GX and I just find that especially on the bridge pickup, when it's split it just doesn't seem to hit the amp hard enough to get enough bite and dirt out of it on some of the amp models. On heavier models like the rectifier, you pretty much can't tell the difference between split and humbucking modes, due to the modelling and compression I guess. But on some of the others, even with the gain fully cranked you just don't get much distortion when it's split, compared to when it's not. So now obviously I'm gassing for a single coil tele too and kind of tempted to pickup up a Squier Classic Vibe tele but before I go that far, is there anything I can do to improve this situation? I did read that the pots used in these are not the ideal resistance for single coil sounds but I presume if you changed those out, it'd affect the humbucker sounds too, so ideally I'd rather stay away from the modding route too. Would a boost pedal do the job? And if so, any recommendations? chippy fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Sep 7, 2022 |
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