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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:Yeah but that book sucks ? Verhoeven can do no wrong and I'm including showgirls in that you'd have to include it, it's his best movie
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npr ran an article today on fatphobia and The Whale lol our national media is such a shameless, incestuous cluster
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Sep 6, 2022 16:13
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I noticed like three solid unionbusting stories on npr last week. they may as well be a woke libertarian network
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I wasn't familiar with The Whale and it is apparently a movie where Brendan Fraser wears a 700 pound fat suit, eats an entire pizza, then teaches a Zoom class during the 2016 primaries (?)
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projecthalaxy posted:I wasn't familiar with The Whale and it is apparently a movie where Brendan Fraser wears a 700 pound fat suit, eats an entire pizza, then teaches a Zoom class during the 2016 primaries (?) sounds like poo poo but glad my boy Brendan's getting work and doing oscar bait, give the man a little fruity statue and a lot of money
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projecthalaxy posted:I wasn't familiar with The Whale and it is apparently a movie where Brendan Fraser wears a 700 pound fat suit, eats an entire pizza, then teaches a Zoom class during the 2016 primaries (?) and directed by darren aronofsky!
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a new study bible! posted:npr ran an article today on fatphobia and The Whale lol I looked up the Wikipedia article on it and it seems like his character became morbidly obese as a symptom of depression, which is a real thing that happens but I can see why acknowledging this in a movie would piss off people who use the term "fatphobia" all the time
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a new study bible! posted:npr ran an article today on fatphobia and The Whale lol we need to become more fatphobic
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loquacius posted:I looked up the Wikipedia article on it and it seems like his character became morbidly obese as a symptom of depression, which is a real thing that happens but I can see why acknowledging this in a movie would piss off people who use the term "fatphobia" all the time Yeah per the variety article i read it appears (the whale spoilers maybe) he was divorced and lost any visitation of his kids 10 years prior and as a result gained 400 pounds and is planning to essentially commit medical suicide (not getting his heart failure fixed) because he has no more ability or will to deal with things. the classic aranofsky sunshine and rainbows
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i say swears online posted:I noticed like three solid unionbusting stories on npr last week. they may as well be a woke libertarian network This is what they always have been.
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Nichael posted:This is what they always have been. that's possible but imo it really ramped up since 2010 with the addition of Koch money. marketplace and planet money have always been bad but it's clearly worse now that funding is compromised
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I got me Brendan Fraser, he's as big as a whale. And we're headin' on down to the love shack
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Nichael posted:the whale: lmfao shallow hal is such a time capsule
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i say swears online posted:that's possible but imo it really ramped up since 2010 with the addition of Koch money. marketplace and planet money have always been bad but it's clearly worse now that funding is compromised yeah, true.
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Using "phobia" as a standin for "bias against" makes a lot of sense for homophobia and transphobia because those really are 100% rooted in fear, but I don't think anyone seriously believes people who think you will get fat if you eat too much and will get skinny if you eat less and exercise are afraid of fat people. The body-acceptance stuff just took off around the same time that gay marriage was the country's hot-button issue so that's what they copied
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projecthalaxy posted:Yeah per the variety article i read it appears (the whale spoilers maybe) he was divorced and lost any visitation of his kids 10 years prior and as a result gained 400 pounds and is planning to essentially commit medical suicide (not getting his heart failure fixed) because he has no more ability or will to deal with things. the classic aranofsky sunshine and rainbows Excuse me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYfVh8pcal8&t=223s
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loquacius posted:Using "phobia" as a standin for "bias against" makes a lot of sense for homophobia and transphobia because those really are 100% rooted in fear, but I don't think anyone seriously believes people who think you will get fat if you eat too much and will get skinny if you eat less and exercise are afraid of fat people. The body-acceptance stuff just took off around the same time that gay marriage was the country's hot-button issue so that's what they copied the idea is theyre afraid of being fat and the mistake is thinking thats an unjustified fear
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Sep 6, 2022 16:44
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scary ghost dog posted:the idea is theyre afraid of being fat and the mistake is thinking thats an unjustified fear If that's the case their stance doesn't have any internal consistency, though, because they're always talking about how weight loss is actually impossible and body shape is an unchangeable genetic phenotype akin to race, which would make it impossible to get fat if you're not fat already
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loquacius posted:If that's the case their stance doesn't have any internal consistency, though, because they're always talking about how weight loss is actually impossible and body shape is an unchangeable genetic phenotype akin to race, which would make it impossible to get fat if you're not fat already i dont think most fat activists actually believe that
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loquacius posted:If that's the case their stance doesn't have any internal consistency, though, because they're always talking about how weight loss is actually impossible and body shape is an unchangeable genetic phenotype akin to race, which would make it impossible to get fat if you're not fat already what
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This came up a lot in the old Tumblr threads which apparently aren't searchable anymore  Basically it's the logical endpoint of a lot of their grievances, because if it's avoidable then it's a choice etc etc etc. It's possible the mask has unslipped a bit since those days though
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this is the thing of taking a tumblr screenshot and pretending that all feminists believe what this wacky 14 yr old believes.
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What if we imposed standards of fitness, drive, discipline, dress and deportment as a culture? Would it be so bad to have everyone squared away and hard charging? I understand there have always been misfits and oddballs but jfc
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loquacius posted:This came up a lot in the old Tumblr threads which apparently aren't searchable anymore youre dumb
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fwiw there absolutely is truth to the idea that genetics determine your tendency for fat retention and natural “resting weight” but like, it’s nothing that can’t be overcome with mild diet control and absolutely nobody has a genetic predisposition to being 400lbs and unable to climb stairs
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American Dad is on its 18th season i thought that show got canceled a decade ago
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:fwiw there absolutely is truth to the idea that genetics determine your tendency for fat retention and natural “resting weight” but like, it’s nothing that can’t be overcome with mild diet control and absolutely nobody has a genetic predisposition to being 400lbs and unable to climb stairs The food available to Americans isn't great in general either
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Frosted Flake posted:What if we imposed standards of fitness, drive, discipline, dress and deportment as a culture? Would it be so bad to have everyone squared away and hard charging? Who is deciding these standards, and Dealing With those who don't meet them? You? Are you the Arbiter
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AnimeIsTrash posted:we need to become more fatphobic
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Oglethorpe posted:American Dad is on its 18th season i thought that show got canceled a decade ago it's one of the most consistently funny of the super-long sitcoms, except maybe It's Always Sunny, and even that I think has a worse ratio of duds to funny in the latter years.
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reading some of these articles about the movie and i think they just don't want morbidly obese people stories at all. hiring actual super fat actors like the mom in gilbert grape is problematic too apparently since skinny people will just gawk at the spectacle.
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:they just don't want . . . people stories at all.
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i say swears online posted:lmfao fun to think about : this is during Jack Black's rise from obscure nerd comedy to pop culture, and before this he hadn't been the lead in a mainstream movie yet. when he was offered the job, he was told he'd have to lose a bunch of weight for the part. so Jack Black, noted chubby dude, was shamed into losing weight so he could get his first real starring role in a movie where every joke is a fat joke. none of that could have felt good for ol Jack 
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The jack black era already had its funny Fatman.
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DoombatINC posted:fun to think about : this is during Jack Black's rise from obscure nerd comedy to pop culture, and before this he hadn't been the lead in a mainstream movie yet. when he was offered the job, he was told he'd have to lose a bunch of weight for the part. so Jack Black, noted chubby dude, was shamed into losing weight so he could get his first real starring role in a movie where every joke is a fat joke. none of that could have felt good for ol Jack Two years later the climax of a Jack Black film would include him pointing out his own chubbiness as something he's comfortable with as part of a pep talk to a girl afraid to go on stage due to her weight.
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