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Flared Basic Bitch
Feb 22, 2005

Invading your personal space since 1968.

Bogus Adventure posted:

This is the apex of wrestling. It will never be topped.

Much like that pizza.

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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Something that amuses me about the current state of wrestling is how there are enough major active promotions that there ends up being something of a tier system for talent. The top guys are split between WWE and AEW. Then there's the guys who WWE fired, AEW didn't pick up and now they're back in WWE again because Triple H is in charge. Then there's the guys on IMPACT, but even that isn't the lowest level.

What I'm getting at is that NWA just had a big event where their main even title match was Trevor Murdoch vs. Brodus Clay and I cannot imagine a worse match right now that doesn't involve a half-dead Ric Flair. Then in the aftermath, wrestlers from Choose Your Narrative (the laughing stock of the wrestling business) did an invasion angle. God drat that all sounds awful.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

rndmnmbr posted:

Vince is like a lot of billionaires, too estranged from the hoi pollei for peer pressure to take care of his various weird and bad habits.

And as far as wrestling, there was a time Vince knew wrestling perfectly and intimately. His weird wrestling poo poo only showed up when he had no competition to compare himself to - early 90s gimmick crap before WCW, and everything after WCW folded. But he still had enough flexibility in the 90s to be able to say WCW was kicking his rear end and he needed to change. The love of weird gimmicky poo poo never changed - but his flexibility slowly went away over the years, until today where nothing is left but a hollow petty tyrant who thinks he's still got it - a precarious throne to sit upon, as recent events have proven.

You see that in a lot of fields and industries, especially entertainment; a guy (almost always a guy) has the right idea at the right time, and rides it all the way to the top, but eventually they get old and lose their flexibility to change with the times and understanding of why something worked if they ever had it, and become an unwieldy relic and obstacle to progress.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Random thought: did Vinnie Mac come up with the name deGeneration X? Because hall of Fame brain right there.

Gavok posted:

wrestlers from Choose Your Narrative
Please tell me it's spelled CyNT.

Super Dan
Jan 26, 2006

FilthyImp posted:

Random thought: did Vinnie Mac come up with the name deGeneration X? Because hall of Fame brain right there.

I believe Vince Russo has taken credit for the name. But who knows, really.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
The Attitude Era aged so poorly lol

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

Elephant Ambush posted:

The Attitude Era aged so poorly lol

I mean it's still entertaining but more in a :suspense: way now.

RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Gavok posted:

Something that amuses me about the current state of wrestling is how there are enough major active promotions that there ends up being something of a tier system for talent. The top guys are split between WWE and AEW. Then there's the guys who WWE fired, AEW didn't pick up and now they're back in WWE again because Triple H is in charge. Then there's the guys on IMPACT, but even that isn't the lowest level.

What I'm getting at is that NWA just had a big event where their main even title match was Trevor Murdoch vs. Brodus Clay and I cannot imagine a worse match right now that doesn't involve a half-dead Ric Flair. Then in the aftermath, wrestlers from Choose Your Narrative (the laughing stock of the wrestling business) did an invasion angle. God drat that all sounds awful.

It's Control Your Narrative. The acronym is CYN btw.

For those who aren't familiar, it's a small "promotion" of canceled and/or borderline canceled wrestlers. It's a company without bookers and there's no pinfalls, the matches just end and there's a narrator who says the winning wrestler "controlled their narrative." Their shows have also been beyond amateur, the first one had no seats, standing room only but still had a VIP section, and Adam Scherr kicked a child in the face during his match. They had a "lights out" match that was literally a lights out match and no one could see anything, not the audience or the people watching the video feed.

TheSwizzler
May 13, 2005

LETTIN THE CAT OUTTA THE BAG
Braun wasn’t even really canceled, he probably would have got his job back or got some of that AEW bucks if he’d just have stayed put a while rather than throw in with the weirdos, unless he was fired for some behind the scenes poo poo that was a bridge too far even for WWE

5er
Jun 1, 2000


Baron von Eevl posted:

Is the not-pizza guy literally wearing one of Gold Dust's old outfits?

Resoldust

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
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TheSwizzler posted:

Braun wasn’t even really canceled, he probably would have got his job back or got some of that AEW bucks if he’d just have stayed put a while rather than throw in with the weirdos, unless he was fired for some behind the scenes poo poo that was a bridge too far even for WWE

Adam Sherr’s alleged list of demands for Impact Wrestling were tantamount to Hulk Hogan signing with WCW. We’re talking winning the world title in their debut match and not losing to any ex-WWE wrestlers (or Kenny Omega, who is not signed to Impact Wrestling). Needless to say, Impact Wrestling did not sign him, and were better off for it.

RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

TheSwizzler posted:

Braun wasn’t even really canceled, he probably would have got his job back or got some of that AEW bucks if he’d just have stayed put a while rather than throw in with the weirdos, unless he was fired for some behind the scenes poo poo that was a bridge too far even for WWE

I wrote borderline canceled because most of these guys are really stupid, to the point that they will probably burn any remaining goodwill they have by ranting about safe spaces and snowflakes. It's like a wrestling promotion for very divorced dads. Scherr for instance always seems on the cusp of stepping over the line but he just constantly destroys his career without doing it so he'll probably never reach that point.

Edward Mass posted:

Adam Sherr’s alleged list of demands for Impact Wrestling were tantamount to Hulk Hogan signing with WCW. We’re talking winning the world title in their debut match and not losing to any ex-WWE wrestlers (or Kenny Omega, who is not signed to Impact Wrestling). Needless to say, Impact Wrestling did not sign him, and were better off for it.

Adam Scherr attempting to big league IMPACT was hilarious too because he could have very easily gotten a lucrative and mostly protected position in the company. He might have had to lose to Moose at some point but lol at him thinking they were going to be making a known wrestler like him a jobber. It has to be some kind of PTSD from being in WWE. The fact that CYN appeared at NWA speaks volumes about how bad NWA is at this point, it seemed promising for a bit, but it's even funnier that Scherr didn't end up there on his own as a top guy. This is a company whose top guy is Trevor Murdoch. Scherr played himself and within a decade he's going to be doing a podcast/twitch stream like Russo or Cornette where he bitches and moans about the state of the industry and how, without directly saying so, it's the reason why he doesn't have a job.

Dacap
Jul 8, 2008

I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower.

You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader.



Edward Mass posted:

Adam Sherr’s alleged list of demands for Impact Wrestling were tantamount to Hulk Hogan signing with WCW. We’re talking winning the world title in their debut match and not losing to any ex-WWE wrestlers (or Kenny Omega, who is not signed to Impact Wrestling). Needless to say, Impact Wrestling did not sign him, and were better off for it.

He also had no appeal as a special attraction to most Indies because he spent most of his WWE career saying indie guys were losers who couldn't make it in the big leagues like him.

For context, he basically leapfrogged WWE's development system with no wrestling experience and went right to the TV roster because of his size.

He started off ok as the heavy in a stable where someone else talked for him and had a decent run where he would just do ridiculous staged feats of strength like flipping over trucks, but then got overexposed and they started making him run laps around the ring every night while playing cartoon train sound fx.

He briefly won their top title but it was way past the point that the audience cared about him, he played hardball in his contract negotiations and then was fired within months of being their top champion.

I'm sure AEW never even spoke to him because they're heavily invested and reverential of indie wrestling, and they already have Lance Archer who is basically just a better version of Scherr by every metric.

Dacap fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Aug 30, 2022

RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
I forgot that at the start of the Covid lockdowns, Scherr went on a rant about people needing to bootstrap themselves up and to quit being a wrestler if they couldn't make it. This was at a time where big money promotions were in crisis mode and most indie promotions were facing an existential crisis that killed multiple small promotions. In response to AEW's Evil Uno reaching out to people to help their local indie promotions and wrestlers they like, Scherr posted this.

Adam Scherr on Instagram posted:

Here we go with more of the somebody pay for my bills stuff. If you can’t afford to pay your bills maybe you should change professions. That’s why I quit strongman. I loved it, but I couldn’t afford to live so instead of making a go fund me or a Patreon wanting someone else to take care of me I went out and worked harder than I ever have in my life to get to where I am. What happened to being accountable for your own actions????!!!

He's also stood by this because he's a loving idiot. He really needs to stop controlling his narrative.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
He posts a lot of really stupid poo poo on twitter and gets dogpiled a lot and every single time he pulls out Ye Olde Puppetmastere Defense and pretends he's masterfully working the marks or whatever

Then like a month or so ago he posted something like "why is everyone so negative on here?" (referring to all the justified dunking he gets) without a single ounce of self-awareness

He's one of the dumbest people alive

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


RocknRollaAyatollah posted:

It's Control Your Narrative.

Whoops, my bad.

Elephant Ambush posted:

He posts a lot of really stupid poo poo on twitter and gets dogpiled a lot and every single time he pulls out Ye Olde Puppetmastere Defense and pretends he's masterfully working the marks or whatever

Then like a month or so ago he posted something like "why is everyone so negative on here?" (referring to all the justified dunking he gets) without a single ounce of self-awareness

He's one of the dumbest people alive

The real question is: Dumber than Ryback?

Dacap
Jul 8, 2008

I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower.

You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader.



Gavok posted:


The real question is: Dumber than Ryback?

I think this verdict entirely depends on if Braun can convince HHH to rehire him

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
This is cool. Interesting to watch a match with no commentary which is something I preferred watching it live.

Oh and the monkey stuff is :lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83iMDqLdaOU

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Flared Basic Bitch posted:

Much like that pizza.

:vince:

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Elephant Ambush posted:

The Attitude Era aged so poorly lol

I will always love the Attitude Era because it gave us the Rock's promo that completely destroyed Bad rear end Billy Gunn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCKVoTTQRxQ

Also, it gave us Kurt Angle as a heel. I can't imagine that happening to an Olympic champion in any other era.

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting

FullLeatherJacket posted:

I do love that after 40+ years I still can't quite place Vince McMahon

like, occasionally you'll get someone talking openly about Vince sitting them down and going over complex wrestling psychology and concepts, or insisting that they put their hands up on a chairshot for their own safety, and it's very obvious that he's a guy playing a character on television and doesn't actually run around firing people backstage

but then you'll get a story about how you have to show an entire pack of oreos who's boss, or him being pissed off all day because he sneezed in a meeting, and it's all up in the air again

Honestly, I think it's like a story about the late Jim Hellwig, nee the Ultimate Warrior, and that supposedly Jim was by nature a quiet, almost withdrawn man who compensated by going all out and being the most over the top, bombastic, and crazy character he could, but in a world like wrestling where you are constantly doing your act year round unlike most any other acting job, eventually the gimmick just consumed the man and Jim became the 'Warrior' in every way. Be careful who you pretend to be, because you are who you pretend to be.

Same with Vince, especially once he made himself a top on air participant in an actual hot act. Between his troubled childhood and his own innate demons, eventually whatever 'Vince McMahon' was faded to the barest embers. All that was left was MR.MCMAHON. But while being THE WARRIOR or MR.MCMAHON might work great for wrestling silliness, it's really bad for basic life function.

They ain't the only ones who let their gimmick eat them alive. Hulk Hogan also had it happen, as did Ric Flair, Ted DiBiase did for a time before he pulled back via religion (god I hope that is an example of religion actually having a positive effect on someone), Bret Hart in his own way, Steve Austin in his own way (supposedly during the last few years with his on off runs in the WWE there were stories of him just sitting around at his ranch home drinking and going stir crazy because without the constant hustle and travel and action of wrestling, he had no idea what to do with himself), both the Hardys, the just spoken of Adam Scherr...really. Be careful who you pretend to be, again.

Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Sep 1, 2022

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
This thread is pretty fun to read but I'd love more insane wrestling stories, they're super fascinating. Anything about Bret Hart is welcome.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Dacap posted:

they started making him run laps around the ring every night while playing cartoon train sound fx.

Yo don't forget his last feud in the company was against Shane McMahon with zero build that revolved around Shane calling him "stupid" and literally dumping buckets of Nickelodeon slime on his head

https://youtu.be/4ckK6wKM6y0

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

Cornwind Evil posted:

Honestly, I think it's like a story about the late Jim Hellwig, nee the Ultimate Warrior, and that supposedly Jim was by nature a quiet, almost withdrawn man who compensated by going all out and being the most over the top, bombastic, and crazy character he could, but in a world like wrestling where you are constantly doing your act year round unlike most any other acting job, eventually the gimmick cocaine just consumed the man and Jim became the 'Warrior' in every way. Be careful who you pretend to be, because you are who you pretend to be.

Stex T
Mar 7, 2005

Shut the fuck up and get out. Have fun being a slave of the rich and powerful.
Remember when the Ultimate Warrior threatened to sue Lowtax? What was that all about?

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


We have yet another excessively long AEW PPV coming out tomorrow with All Out. 15 matches total, though 4 of them will be lightning rounded through the pre-show.

Here's the rundown.

PRE-SHOW

TOMOHIRO ISHII VS. EDDIE KINGSTON


Originally, AEW was building towards a PPV match of Eddie Kingston vs. Sammy Guevara. Then the two had some real-life beef when Sammy called Eddie a “fat piece of poo poo” in a promo and Eddie thought that was a dick move that didn’t do either of them any favors (don’t call your opponent a loser because either you beat a loser or you’re worse than a loser). Eddie pie-faced Sammy, got suspended for a couple weeks, and while things are cool now, their potential match is DOA.

Instead, Eddie’s on the pre-show, taking on cool Japanese badass Ishii. Two dudes smacking the poo poo out of each other for no reason. Should be fun.

PAC (C) VS. KIP SABIAN

AEW All-Atlantic Championship


Over a year ago, Kip Sabian got his rear end handed to him by former tag partner Miro and spent a while on the shelf. Then he’d start showing up in the crowd during shows with a box on his head, acting like some kind of twisted, tortured artist. This part went on for so many months and nobody ever really acknowledged it.

Pac won a tournament to crown the first ever All-Atlantic Champion. It’s an international belt for him to defend since he deserves a title, but is only sparingly in the US. His defenses would be shown on the AEW YouTube shows and more and more, he’s been noticing the box-wearing Kip glaring at him from the audience.

During the big tournament to crown the first AEW trios champions (more on that later), Pac was competing with his partners in the Death Triangle when he got distracted by Kip in the crowd. Pac forcibly removed the box to reveal a random, beat up guy with his mouth taped shut. The real Kip jumped Pac and helped him lose the tournament.

HOOK (C) VS. ANGELO PARKER

FTW Championship


Once upon a time, when Taz was in ECW, he created his own renegade title called the FTW Championship. He brought it to AEW, where his then-protégé Brian Cage held it. Cage then lost it to Taz’s other protégé Ricky Starks. Recently, Starks lost it to his buddy Hook, who also happens to be Taz’s son.

Hook is a man of few words, but he caught the attention of 2point0. Matt Menard and Angelo Parker have been running their mouths about getting a title shot and now it looks like Angelo is going to be the next victim.

TAY MELO AND SAMMY GUEVARA (C) VS. RUBY SOHO AND ORTIZ

AAA World Mixed Tag Championship


As part of Eddie Kingston’s feud with Chris Jericho and his cronies, Eddie’s friend Ruby Soho got involved to prevent Tay Melo from aiding her husband Sammy Guevara. As Eddie’s other buddy Ortiz needs something to do, he’s been teaming up with Ruby to take on Tay and Sammy. Sammy and Tay initially won, which was supposed to build towards Sammy’s match with Eddie, but that’s no longer a thing. Instead, they had a rematch that Ortiz and Ruby won. So now we’re having a hastily-thrown-together rubber match.

Oh, and there was a thing where Tay slammed Ruby’s arm into a car door or something like that.

MAIN SHOW

JON MOXLEY (C) VS. CM PUNK

AEW World Heavyweight Championship


Months back, CM Punk won the title off of Hangman Adam Page. After taking part in a throwaway six-man tag match, Punk was no longer cleared to wrestle. Turned out he broke his foot. Rather than relinquish the title, he just went away to have surgery and heal up while a mini-tournament was held to crown an interim champion. That ended up being Jon Moxley, who proceeded to have banger after banger in the months that followed.

The more Moxley won, the more annoyed he was that people called him “interim” champion. Finally, Punk came back to set up their unification match at All Out. Unfortunately for Punk, he couldn’t keep his mouth shut and pissed off Moxley enough that they kept having brawls that needed to be pulled apart. It was then decided that their big match would take place on Dynamite instead of All Out.

The match itself lasted only a few minutes. Early on, Punk kicked Moxley and aggravated his leg injury. Moxley smelled blood in the water and annihilated Punk, winning easily. A week later, with only days before the PPV, Moxley left an open contract in the ring, choosing to defend against whoever was man enough to come and sign it. It was later picked up by Ace Steel, a security dude who trained Punk when he was getting into the business.

Punk later came out, suggesting that he was going to take more time off or retire, but Ace stormed out and egged him on to sign the contract. Punk got pumped up, took the contract, and signed it among his fans in Chicago.

THE ELITE (KENNY OMEGA, NICK JACKSON, MATT JACKSON) VS. THE DARK ORDER (HANGMAN ADAM PAGE, JOHN SILVER, ALEX REYNOLDS)

Tournament Finals for AEW Trios Championship


AEW has been doing a trios tournament for the sake of yet another set of title belts.

Back in the first All Out back in 2019, Adam Page was competing for the title and wanted the Young Bucks in his corner like they did for Kenny Omega many times before. They were understandably too busy and while Hangman accepted this, it got under his skin and led to a lengthy storyline where he lost confidence in himself and ultimately ruined his relationships with the Elite members.

In time, he regained his confidence thanks to his friends in the Dark Order. With their support, he was able to beat Kenny Omega for the AEW World Championship. After that, Kenny took a long sabbatical to heal from his many injuries. Hangman has since lost the title to Punk, but looked at the trios tournament as a way to support Dark Order the way they supported him. At first, the Young Bucks wanted to make Hangman their third guy for the tournament and make amends, but Hangman respectfully declined, as he wanted to be in the Dark Order’s corner. Luckily, Kenny was coming back from injury (perhaps too soon).

As the Elite made their way into the finals, the Dark Order had issues. Once a massive group, the team was down to four members and two of them were deemed unable to compete. Going into the semis, Hangman decided to step in and replace injured member Ten. Now he’s facing his old Elite friends one more time.

TONI STORM VS. DR. BRITT BAKER, DMD VS. JAMIE HAYTER VS. HIKARU SHIDA

Interim AEW Women’s Championship


Originally, this was supposed to be Thunder Rosa defending the title against her tag partner Toni Storm, but Rosa had to step away due to injury. Or, according to the dirt sheets, she has some legit beef with Britt Baker and Jamie Hayter and Tony Khan wants her away for a bit so things can cool down. Whatever the reason, a new interim champion will be crowned via this four-way match between two former champions, the initial challenger, and Britt Baker’s henchwoman who might be overstepping her boundaries.

SWERVE IN OUR GLORY (C) VS. THE ACCLAIMED

AEW Tag Team Championship


Swerve Strickland and Keith Lee were very close to splitting up after Swerve betrayed Keith during a battle royal. The two were able to patch things up and rebuild the trust, which allowed them to win the tag titles off the Young Bucks.

Meanwhile, the Acclaimed had aligned themselves with the Gunn Club: Billy Gunn and his two sons. The sons of Mr. rear end didn’t take too well to constantly being called “The rear end Boys” and ended up betraying both the Acclaimed and their father. After winning the feud against the Gunn Club, the Acclaim ascended into a title shot. Then one of them called Swerve and Keith "Timon and Pumba" which is an amazing burn.

JADE CARGILL (C) VS. ATHENA

TBS Championship


Jade Cargill has been the Goldberg of the women’s division since her debut, having defeated everyone in her way. It looked like her streak would be in danger against fan favorite Kris Statlander, but Statlander messed up her leg and will be out for the better part of a year. Instead, Jade will be defending against Athena, a relative newcomer to AEW who used to wrestle in WWE as Ember Moon.

CLAUDIO CASTAGNOLI VS. WHEELER YUTA VS. PENTA EL ZERO MIEDO VS. REY FENIX VS. RUSH VS. ANDRADE EL IDOLO VS. DANTE MARTIN VS. ???

Casino Ladder Match for AEW World Championship contendership


It’s a ladder match with staggered entries like the Royal Rumble. Of the seven announced, three pairs belong to the same faction, making this an interesting showdown. Plus there’s plenty of flippy poo poo to enjoy here.

And hey, maybe we’ll get a cool debut out of the secret spot!

BRYAN DANIELSON VS. CHRIS JERICHO

Bryan Danielson’s stable the Blackpool Combat Club has been feuding with Chris Jericho’s Jericho Appreciation Society for months. When they had a huge Anarchy in the Arena match back at Double or Nothing, Bryan Danielson ended up taking the fall. Due to a concussion, he was unable to compete at the following PPV Forbidden Door.

Jericho’s protégé Daniel Garcia is a fantastic technical wrestler, but Jericho has him boasting about how he’s not a wrestler but a “sports entertainer.” Garcia had a match with Bryan and stole a win via outside interference and Bryan’s less-than-perfect physical health. The two had a rematch, best two-out-of-three, and Bryan won. After the match, Jericho ambushed Bryan and Garcia wasn’t happy with it.

As Bryan Danielson and Chris Jericho are ready to collide, Garcia doesn’t know where he stands. Does he follow his mentor or his hero? Is he a sports entertainer or a wrestler?

JUNGLE BOY VS. CHRISTIAN CAGE

A long, long time ago, Jungle Boy won a Casino Battle Royale by eliminating Christian last. Christian would go on to become a mentor to Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus. The trio went on to win some feuds and Jurassic Express became the tag champs. Christian, speaking for the duo, proceeded to push Jungle Boy into matches without talking to him about it first. By the time Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus lost the tag titles, Christian finally made his move and beat the utter crap out of Jungle Boy.

Turns out, Christian was biding his time and had wanted revenge on Jungle Boy all along. He's THAT petty. He started talking poo poo about Jungle Boy’s dead father and widowed mother. He convinced Luchasaurus to join his side, though Luchasaurus was secretly being loyal to Jungle Boy all along. Jungle Boy finally returned and proceeded to constantly attack Christian, trying to make his life a living Hell.

Now he finally gets his hands on his former mentor.

RICKY STARKS VS. POWERHOUSE HOBBS

Team Taz was a regular force in AEW and the team of Ricky Starks and Will Hobbs came close a couple times to becoming tag champs. Ricky at least had the FTW Championship to fall back on, but his successful title defenses went to his head. He lost to fellow Team Taz member Hook and showed him respect. Afterwards, he cut a promo about how it’s okay to lose sometimes as long as you get back up.

The moment he mentioned his teammate Hobbs, Hobbs attacked him from behind. Ricky was disgusted and betrayed, especially angry that his former friend targeted his injury-prone neck. Hobbs claimed that Ricky was never his friend, as he does not hang out with losers.

Ricky had some matches with members of QT Marshall’s Factory. Hobbs threatened QT to make sure Ricky was fully brutalized, but Ricky proceeded to singlehandedly fight through the loser stable. Now he wants a piece of Hobbs.

WARDLOW AND FTR VS. JAY LETHAL AND THE MOTOR CITY MACHINE GUNS

Wardlow recently won the TNT Championship and has been going through all of his challengers. Even though he defeated Jay Lethal, Lethal’s entourage jumped Wardlow and left him in a heap. Wardlow’s buddies in FTR came to his rescue and it looked like we were going to get Wardlow and FTR vs. Lethal, Satnam Singh, and Sonjay Dutt.

As Dutt is too over-the-hill and the extremely tall Singh is too green to compete in such a big match, Lethal’s partners are legendary IMPACT tag team the Motor City Machine Guns. This is a HUGE step up and should be a banger.

MIRO, DARBY ALLIN, AND STING VS. HOUSE OF BLACK

House of Black is an occult trio led by Malakai Black, who has a habit of spitting black goo into people’s faces. Said goo has a tendency to corrupt them over time. During the four-way match to crown the AEW All-Atlantic Champion, Black spat in the face of Miro, costing him the win.

Miro is an insane monster of a man who refuses to sleep with his hot wife unless he is some kind of champion and threatens to murder God because of it. Miro has been able to stave off the corruption and wants revenge on the House of Black.

Meanwhile, House of Black member Brody King has been regularly targeting Darby Allin ever since Brody won a battle royal by choking him out and dropping him out of the ring like a sack of potatoes. Brody had been beating the poo poo out of Darby in public appearances, culminating in a brutal and bloody Casket Match that Darby won. During that whole feud, Malakai was able to spit his black goo mist into Sting’s eye. So far the effects of that have only been cosmetic.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

Bogus Adventure posted:

Also, it gave us Kurt Angle as a heel. I can't imagine that happening to an Olympic champion in any other era.

How dare you forget Iron Sheik. PTOOEY! I spit on America and your post. Iran NUMBER ONE!

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


So poo poo's crazy in AEW World right now.

Backstory: After CM Punk left WWE in 2014, he finally broke his silence by going on his best friend Colt Cabana's podcast. After airing his grievances, Punk got sued for defamation by WWE's doctor in a suit that was blatantly just WWE bankrolling a lawsuit for the sake of bleeding Punk out of money. While Punk and Colt won the lawsuit, there were some complications when it came to the bill. Punk claims that Colt was trying to exploit him while Colt claims Punk reneged on his promise to pay for the lawyer. Regardless, it destroyed their friendship completely.

Colt joined AEW a few years ago and while he wasn't a major name, he was at least beloved backstage and had a role as a member of the Dark Order.

Punk joined AEW and gradually, Colt showed up less and less. He was barely on TV and soon stopped being on the YouTube shows. His AEW contract expired and he didn't get an extension. Instead, the Young Bucks at least convinced Tony Khan to sign him to a Ring of Honor contract. Not that that means much, as ROH only exists for the occasional PPV.

People connected the dots on the last one and on the surface, it made Punk look like a piece of poo poo. Beloved wrestler that the irritable top star hates phased out of company? How did THAT happen?

When Hangman Adam Page was the champ and Punk was challenging him, there was an episode of Dynamite when Punk wasn't there and Hangman cut a promo that very vaguely referenced the Colt stuff (Hangman and Colt were buddies in-storyline, so it was an elephant in the room). Namely that Punk claims to have the back of his fellow worker, but he's a hypocrite. It went over most heads, but apparently Punk was furious about it because it wasn't cleared with him. Even insinuating that he was behind Colt's departure was making him look bad.

Anyway, Punk beat Hangman for the title and immediately broke his foot afterwards. Punk was off TV for months and eventually came back to set up a PPV match with Jon Moxley. During his first promo back, randomly Punk offered Hangman a title shot right there. This was apparently NOT scripted and was supposed to make Hangman look bad because of course Hangman wasn't going to come out and respond. It made him look like a coward. Punk did this because he was STILL pissed about that one promo from months back. Keep in mind, Hangman was involved in a completely different story, so this stuck out like a sore thumb.

Online mumblings came back to the whole Colt thing because, well, that's what Hangman's promo was about. Other than a fan chanting "COLT CABANA!" at him one time and Punk telling everyone the fan was a fat virgin, nothing happened with that. It was otherwise all about Punk vs. Mox at All Out. Though Tony Khan was asked about it in an interview, but insisted that Punk had nothing to do with Colt leaving AEW.

PPV happens. Punk and Mox have a fun main event match. Punk wins in his home town of Chicago (er, close to) cleanly and MJF makes his big return to set up the next hot storyline as Punk's next challenger. PPV is over. Good times had by all. Now it's time for the post-show media scrum, which is usually out of character.

The scrum starts with Punk, still covered in blood and sweat. Does he discuss his match with Moxley? Does he discuss MJF's shocking return? Nope. He recognizes one of the media guys as a friend of Colt Cabana's and it just SETS. HIM. OFF. Without anyone bringing it up, Punk went on a gigantic rant about Colt, only using his real name, and not only making GBS threads on him for causing their falling out, but also making GBS threads on Hangman for that one promo and claiming that the company's EVPs (Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks) were spreading the Colt rumors to the internet to make him look bad. Punk was just airing out the dirty laundry while Tony Khan sat there, screaming internally.

Omega and the Bucks were pissed about this and refused to take part in the media scrum. Chris Jericho ended up showing up instead. Then later on, when Keith Lee and Swerve Strickland were being interviewed, one of the security guards was seen running off.

As the story goes, Omega and the Bucks went to Punk's locker room to confront him. A fight broke out and Ace Steel (friend of Punk's and backstage employee) both hit one of the Bucks with a projectile chair and apparently bit Omega. Rumors has it that Punk may have torn his pec in the melee.

Is it a work? Probably not. But who knows? Either way, the AEW thread is going a mile a minute and tomorrow's Dynamite should be interesting as hell.

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.
honestly, this entire sequence of events just makes everybody involved sound like giant baby men who can't just sit down and talk out their differences like adults

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Cubone posted:

honestly, this entire sequence of events just makes everybody involved sound like giant baby men who can't just sit down and talk out their differences like adults

thats wrestling

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com

I wish he tossed the pizza into his opponents face who would then yell like Leslie Neilson in naked gun

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

thats wrestling

AEW very much tried to pitch itself as "THIS TIME...SHALL BE DIFFERENT!" when it comes to egos and backstage politics loving with trying to put on a show for fans.

Instead, it turns out all the pressures that grind wrestling promotions into this sort of shitshow are still present.

IT'S NOT DIFFERENT AT ALL, IS IT TONY?

Prof. Crocodile
Jun 27, 2020

Gavok posted:

So poo poo's crazy in AEW World right now.

...

Is it a work? Probably not. But who knows? Either way, the AEW thread is going a mile a minute and tomorrow's Dynamite should be interesting as hell.

It sounds to me like respected wrestling legend and locker room guru Jake Roberts needs to sit everyone down and calmly restore the climate of respect by drinking a bottle of his own piss.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

SirPhoebos posted:

AEW very much tried to pitch itself as "THIS TIME...SHALL BE DIFFERENT!" when it comes to egos and backstage politics loving with trying to put on a show for fans.

Instead, it turns out all the pressures that grind wrestling promotions into this sort of shitshow are still present.

IT'S NOT DIFFERENT AT ALL, IS IT TONY?

it is foolish and arrogant to think that you can control a wrestlers ego no force on earth can control it

FullLeatherJacket
Dec 30, 2004

Chiunque può essere Luther Blissett, semplicemente adottando il nome Luther Blissett

cm punk came back to wrestling on the 20th august 2021 with almost universal goodwill

it took one calendar year

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

Elephant Ambush posted:

The Attitude Era aged so poorly lol

There's something magical about ICP coming out to work a garbage tag match at wrestlemania and the entirety of the stadium going absolutely mental through the whole thing.



Those crowds were beautiful.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
i will let the company burn and lose millions of potential dollars if it means i get to win this pretend fight

Pandaal
Mar 7, 2020

Shinjobi posted:

There's something magical about ICP coming out to work a garbage tag match at wrestlemania and the entirety of the stadium going absolutely mental through the whole thing.



Those crowds were beautiful.

Whenever I watch any 90s/early-aughts wrestling shows I’m always amazed at how present and into-it the crowds are and then I remember “oh yeah, no cellphones.” 🙁

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost
Cm punk throws alot of hissy fits for a fella acts like he's better than everyone

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16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
CM punk trained for months to start a career in MMA and got his rear end kicked in his one and only match lmao

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