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Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Oh poo poo we do old tools in here?

Have a big ‘ol Mauser wrench:

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tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



I'm probably not the only person with a memory like this but I remember my dad managing to drill a hole in his thumb with one of the push drills like that. I was maybe 5 so no idea how, other than presumably he was being stupid with it.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

tangy yet delightful posted:

I'm probably not the only person with a memory like this but I remember my dad managing to drill a hole in his thumb with one of the push drills like that. I was maybe 5 so no idea how, other than presumably he was being stupid with it.

There's a garagejournal thread about it where someone contributes a similar and extremely believable anecdote.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/know-anything-about-this-craftsman-screwdriver.247644/ posted:

Back when my dad was in the Navy (in charge of the Maintenance Dept at NAS Willow Grove, PA the time, IIRC) the Government purchased a bunch of these for aircraft repair.

After the mechanics punched a few holes in a few airplanes, they were all gathered up and thrown away. He kept one as a souvenier and I still have it, but he instructed me to "NEVER USE IT".

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
A 100’ steel tape that old is probably a surveyor’s tape.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

withak posted:

A 100’ steel tape that old is probably a surveyor’s tape.

Could be! I don't know enough about surveying to speak with authority one way or the other, but I do know that 16 1/2 feet is a magic number in that trade (length of one rod). You can see this in some of the tape length options (33 feet is two rods, 66 feet is 4 rods), so a 100 foot tape is 6 rods (99 feet) plus 1 foot. 100 feet seems like a convenient length for that purpose, note the 33 and 66 feet length options in the catalog. I do not see any specific markings or callouts (either printed or drawn on) at the 16'6" mark or 33' mark on the tape.


Also note the black finish on the steel being described as "Nubian" :yikeseroo:

Schiavona
Oct 8, 2008

Got a question for you all. I saw a wine rack, and it looks like a fun project to see if I could recreate it. My skill set isn’t particularly broad right now, but this would be a good way to practice using a bunch of tools I’m not super good with yet.

However, I can’t figure out how this was done:





Is there a wide router bit I’m not aware of? Would they have used a drill to make the edges, and then router the rest? Something else entirely?

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf

Schiavona posted:

Got a question for you all. I saw a wine rack, and it looks like a fun project to see if I could recreate it. My skill set isn’t particularly broad right now, but this would be a good way to practice using a bunch of tools I’m not super good with yet.

However, I can’t figure out how this was done:





Is there a wide router bit I’m not aware of? Would they have used a drill to make the edges, and then router the rest? Something else entirely?

I'm just taking a stab in the dark here but I'd assume it's done using two router bits. One straight bit to make a track down the center, and then something like a dovetail bit with a guide bearing to follow the track and widen out the sides/back.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

That's a stemware rack and absolutely not a beginner project due to the depth of cut.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


canyoneer posted:

It is highly recommended if you are a Blues Brother on the lam and need to quickly remove an elevator panel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2quc-iQ96R0

Funny, I've seen the tool dozens and dozens of times in my life, laying in garages and old barns and stuff, but the Blues Brothers is literally the only time I've seen one used.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

canyoneer posted:

Could be! I don't know enough about surveying to speak with authority one way or the other, but I do know that 16 1/2 feet is a magic number in that trade (length of one rod). "Nubian" :yikeseroo:

Mostly I was thinking that a surveyor was (and still is) the only person who needs to care about measuring things ~100 feet in length.

more falafel please
Feb 26, 2005

forums poster

Schiavona posted:

Got a question for you all. I saw a wine rack, and it looks like a fun project to see if I could recreate it. My skill set isn’t particularly broad right now, but this would be a good way to practice using a bunch of tools I’m not super good with yet.

However, I can’t figure out how this was done:





Is there a wide router bit I’m not aware of? Would they have used a drill to make the edges, and then router the rest? Something else entirely?

My guess is that's done with a shaper, which is not a beginner tool in terms of safety or price.

If I was going to make something like that, I'd make it out of separate pieces -- make dividers and attach them to the bottom of a flat panel.

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here
Give me a six pack and a ryobi router and let me get at this.

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
Sandwich three layers of wood and shape the corners? Nail a stop in your table to create even depth? Seems pretty simple if you take the time to jig and secure everything and also buy the right router bit

NomNomNom
Jul 20, 2008
Please Work Out

Soul Dentist posted:

Sandwich three layers of wood and shape the corners? Nail a stop in your table to create even depth? Seems pretty simple if you take the time to jig and secure everything and also buy the right router bit

This is the easiest / only way to do it if you don't have a shaper. You would still need a tablesaw and some 1/4" thick stock. A pin nailer would be nice to have.

Or make everything else just buy a stemware holder that screws on.

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
Yeah the rounded angles add some serious steps. I made a simple one with just screw-and-gluing the individual crenellations to a base board. And honestly, since so much of my stemware is different it's nice to have it not so tailored to one profile because more things fit.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Schiavona posted:

Got a question for you all. I saw a wine rack, and it looks like a fun project to see if I could recreate it. My skill set isn’t particularly broad right now, but this would be a good way to practice using a bunch of tools I’m not super good with yet.

However, I can’t figure out how this was done:





Is there a wide router bit I’m not aware of? Would they have used a drill to make the edges, and then router the rest? Something else entirely?

I have a plunge router bit I use to cut negative-space (haha) pulls with that's almost exactly that cut. The lip may not be quite that extended....

edit- actually, I think it's the same bit. It's a massive 1/2" shank.



yetanotheredit:

more falafel please posted:

My guess is that's done with a shaper, which is not a beginner tool in terms of safety or price.

If I was going to make something like that, I'd make it out of separate pieces -- make dividers and attach them to the bottom of a flat panel.

You can't do that with a shaper.

Mr. Mambold fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Sep 7, 2022

slurm
Jul 28, 2022

by Hand Knit

Mr. Mambold posted:

I have a plunge router bit I use to cut negative-space (haha) pulls with that's almost exactly that cut. The lip may not be quite that extended....

edit- actually, I think it's the same bit. It's a massive 1/2" shank.



yetanotheredit:

You can't do that with a shaper.

I'm not a big wood guy, are you able to just plunge right in and go whole hog or do you pocket and then rough with intermediate profiles of bit and only finish with the largest?

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

slurm posted:

I'm not a big wood guy, are you able to just plunge right in and go whole hog or do you pocket and then rough with intermediate profiles of bit and only finish with the largest?

Tool thread: I'm not a big wood guy, can you just plunge right in and go whole hog?

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

slurm posted:

I'm not a big wood guy, are you able to just plunge right in and go whole hog
If you're not a big wood guy, yes. Otherwise, take it a bit slower.

NomNomNom
Jul 20, 2008
Please Work Out

slurm posted:

I'm not a big wood guy, are you able to just plunge right in and go whole hog or do you pocket and then rough with intermediate profiles of bit and only finish with the largest?

Serious post: yes you'd use a straight bit to remove as much waste as possible, and then you'd start undercutting the sides with the profile bit. You'd still need to take it slow and use a circular pattern (called trochoidal milling in cnc)

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



slurm posted:

I'm not a big wood guy, are you able to just plunge right in and go whole hog or do you pocket and then rough with intermediate profiles of bit and only finish with the largest?

You have to plunge full depth with this bit to where the lip profile will be right- i.e. rounded over. I used a template for the router so it didn't go hog wild if it wanted to, and plunged dead-center so as not to ding the lip profile. Your project seems easier, and you ought to be able to get in there with some sandpaper afterward and clean it up.


NomNomNom posted:

Serious post: yes you'd use a straight bit to remove as much waste as possible, and then you'd start undercutting the sides with the profile bit. You'd still need to take it slow and use a circular pattern (called trochoidal milling in cnc)

This. You can pre-remove waste material with a straight cutter like NomNomNom suggests so that all this cutter needs to do is clean up. And still you want to go slowly clockwise....I think clockwise.

This is what one of those bits looks like. https://www.amazon.com/Amana-Carbide-Tipped-Finger-Router/dp/B000P4OF6Q/ref=pd_lpo_3?pd_rd_i=B000P4OF6Q&psc=1 I need to go dig mine out and compare now.....

Mr. Mambold fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Sep 8, 2022

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

withak posted:

Mostly I was thinking that a surveyor was (and still is) the only person who needs to care about measuring things ~100 feet in length.

Layout for framing of houses, and forming bigger concrete slabs are two other common applications. The biggest tape measures top out at 35' so for anything longer than 30 feet the 100 footer is essential

all the surveyors I've seen use the super precise satellite dish GPS with regular tape measures for shorter distances

Xenix
Feb 21, 2003
I regularly use a 200 foot long vinyl coated steel tape to measure lengths of things (usually retaining walls, sometimes other stuff) and the depths of pier holes. They're also useful to lay out pier alignments for retaining walls.

The steel tapes surveyors use would be different, and would have a place for your spring scale at the end so you know you're putting the correct amount of load on it to get accurate measurements. If yours doesn't have a place to hook a scale, it's probably not a surveyors tape.

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Xenix posted:

I regularly use a 200 foot long vinyl coated steel tape to measure lengths of things (usually retaining walls, sometimes other stuff) and the depths of pier holes. They're also useful to lay out pier alignments for retaining walls.

The steel tapes surveyors use would be different, and would have a place for your spring scale at the end so you know you're putting the correct amount of load on it to get accurate measurements. If yours doesn't have a place to hook a scale, it's probably not a surveyors tape.

why do you have to put load on a steel tape, it doesnt stretch does it?

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
If I had to guess it would be more for making sure the tape was sufficiently tensioned to be consistently accurate.
Like if you've got a tape thats 200 feet long, and stretched all the way out, its surprisingly heavy and awkward to keep it taut enough for an accurate measurement.

oXDemosthenesXo
May 9, 2005
Grimey Drawer
Sag in the tape can change the reading because the tape is curved.

That curve is predictable if the tension is known, so they built in a spring that puts a known tension on it so the sag can be compensated for.

Xenix
Feb 21, 2003

BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:

why do you have to put load on a steel tape, it doesnt stretch does it?

Specifically for land surveying, you have to take the sag and stretch of the tape into consideration, especially over longer distances. I did it once in a lab in college and in reality it never happens in the modern era because surveyors have moved on from measuring distances with steel tapes or chains and everything is done with total stations.

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
:tipshat:

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

Can you replace a fiberglass hammer handle with a wood one? One way or the other, could anyone point me in the direction of a decent replacement for this?



Found in a shopping cart, so I’m hopeful but not fixated on fixing it up.

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!

nitsuga posted:

Can you replace a fiberglass hammer handle with a wood one? One way or the other, could anyone point me in the direction of a decent replacement for this?



Found in a shopping cart, so I’m hopeful but not fixated on fixing it up.

In one of the newest farmcraft101 videos he replaced a sledge hammer handle with a fiberglass one. I guess the kit comes with epoxy to affix the head. I don't know about a wood handle but I'm sure one could be carved to shape. Last time I was at home Depot they had wooden handles for sale for full sized sledges but I didn't look to see if they had smaller ones

Uncle Enzo
Apr 28, 2008

I always wanted to be a Wizard

nitsuga posted:

Can you replace a fiberglass hammer handle with a wood one? One way or the other, could anyone point me in the direction of a decent replacement for this?



Found in a shopping cart, so I’m hopeful but not fixated on fixing it up.

You can find sledgehammer handles with everything you need from most home improvement stores. You'll want some coarse sandpaper to make the head fit just right.

As for how long a handle you want, sledges have long handles so you can hit things at or below the level of your feet and with maximum power. If you're going to be hitting things at working height or thereabouts, a shorty (about 28 inches long) is really really convenient. At my forge we had a 10lb sledge no one used until I cut the handle down, now it gets picked up constantly.

If you don't know and you think you kinda might need a sledge someday I'd say cut it down. People are naturally drawn to short handled sledges, I don't really know why.

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
here's a link to a 75 year old Black & Decker catalog that i enjoyed reading through. Maybe you'll find it interesting as well
http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/101/20564.pdf

that 1 1/4" drill must have been an unforgiving beast to use :froggonk: the notorious hole hawg and other right angle drills were only 1/2"

Calidus
Oct 31, 2011

Stand back I'm going to try science!
I bought the 20” Dewalt Flexvolt chainsaw kit for $479 at Home Depot. I almost bought the 18” flexvolt (tool only) or the 18” Ego. 50% more power, another big battery and the case sold me. Also if I bought a 18” and couldn’t get thought this massive maple I was going to be pissed.

It’s very nice the metal felling spikes on both sides of the blade really bite and let you pivot the saw. It really chewed though everything I thought it it including when I barried completely in a downed maple.

Calidus
Oct 31, 2011

Stand back I'm going to try science!
The Big tree in question

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Was sorting through a drawer in an inherited tool chest and came across some planes. Either my grandpa's or great grandpa's stuff. They seem to be in decent condition and the blades are nice and sharp, but I'd love to clean them up. What's my best route?

The big one is marked Bailey No.6, the other just says "made in USA."

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

brugroffil posted:

Was sorting through a drawer in an inherited tool chest and came across some planes. Either my grandpa's or great grandpa's stuff. They seem to be in decent condition and the blades are nice and sharp, but I'd love to clean them up. What's my best route?

The big one is marked Bailey No.6, the other just says "made in USA."


Disassemble. Do what you will with the wood parts. Take some gasoline or wd40 and some 000 steel wool and wipe/buff up the metal parts and just wipe them clean with a rag. If you're going to finish the metal you can if not rub everything down with some oil and plop it back together

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!
Those things deserve a fresh japanning.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


brugroffil posted:

Was sorting through a drawer in an inherited tool chest and came across some planes. Either my grandpa's or great grandpa's stuff. They seem to be in decent condition and the blades are nice and sharp, but I'd love to clean them up. What's my best route?

The big one is marked Bailey No.6, the other just says "made in USA."


I was doing some plane dating lately and at first glance the no.6 looks extremely old, like pre ww1 old.

https://hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/dating_flowchart.php#Types%201-20

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Yeah my great grandpa was born in 1899 so it's a strong possibility. I'm not sure if I have some or if my dad still has them all, but we also have some of his radiator shop tools from the early 20th century. It includes leather working tools because that's what gaskets were made from then!

I've also got a lot of my grandpa's tools, and he was an auto mechanic from the 50's until the late 80's or early 90's. I need to take some pictures and post them here for help identifying some of the ones I have no idea about.

e: based on that site, it's a type 11 (3 patent dates, small knob), and dates from 1910-1918.

brugroffil fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Sep 11, 2022

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Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

brugroffil posted:

Yeah my great grandpa was born in 1899 so it's a strong possibility. I'm not sure if I have some or if my dad still has them all, but we also have some of his radiator shop tools from the early 20th century. It includes leather working tools because that's what gaskets were made from then!

That's awesome and I just pulled out one of my (mechanic) grandfathers leatherworking tools for my daughter to use to put another hole in a belt. That is the regular sized punch but there are some much larger ones that I assume are imperial bolt hole sizes that I've got packed away in oiled butcher paper in a box somewhere because I have no idea what else to do with them.

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