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Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012
I understand that when going on strike you have no obligation to inform management whether you intend to take part or not, but are they even allowed to ask?

Some middle managers in my place have sent emails around asking about whether people are joining in action (probably to ascertain whether to bother opening up for the day, rather than anything nefarious), but I’m really not sure if they should be doing that

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keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
You misquoted Hannah Bardell, she said he was useless and corrupt.

Deathslinger
Jul 12, 2022

piano chimp posted:

Cool opinion piece in the Graun about the terrible mental health of the UK. No wonder everyone's depressed and anxious when violence is being done to them on the daily.
Given the Graun's long-standing history of outspoken transphobia, it's rich of them to moan about the mental health of the nation.

Aipsh
Feb 17, 2006


GLUPP SHITTO FAN CLUB PRESIDENT
Verdict’s in lads

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Drinkslinger posted:

Given the Graun's long-standing history of outspoken transphobia, it's rich of them to moan about the mental health of the nation.

The mistake people often make when reading the Guardian is assuming that every article on social ills is implying "and this is bad"

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Private Speech posted:

Well BBC did say that, I'm not going to go through all the other Tories to confirm.

by "just one survivor" they mean all the others literally died. their shambling husks may still haunt the corridors of westminster but there is no life left in them. all has been drained to feed the eater of souls, liz truss

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

TACD posted:

But conversely if I was the Tories I’d probably give up even the slightest pretence of playing along at PMQs, given how it absolutely doesn’t matter. Just answer every question with “I support British people and businesses and we’re working hard to make Britain better” word-for-word, no matter what it is

If there was any pretence pre Johnston that PMQ mattered then its gone now. How many people even watch it? Its pure theatre just for the enjoyment of the people in attendance.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

*scowling and grimacing so hard my face spontaneously develops joker makeup*

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
So was Boris there, like sitting at the back?

Tigey
Apr 6, 2015

Tesseraction posted:

The mistake people often make when reading the Guardian is assuming that every article on social ills is implying "and this is bad"

Their main mistake is reading the Guardian.

It exists solely to capture hand-wringing bedwetters who are a bit uneasy with the status quo, and convince them that whilst something 'theoretically' should be done, in reality, actually doing something would be really hard, so its best not to do anything at all.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1567491688599359488

JOMBOBBLYWOMS COMPLESTILTSKIN

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Beyond Corbynesque

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




It will definitely be beyond corbynesque just in completely the wrong direction, so it checks out

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



crispix posted:

UP BUM NO BABY

I kove you crispix, but maybe a holiday might be in order?

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


This “where is the money coming from” line of argument from Labour is so dumb. Money is an elaborate fiction based on government assigning value to work done, Labour should be attacking the fact that the idea is incredibly bad and that we are incentivising energy companies to continue shafting the people, when we should be loving nationalising them.

But nationalising public services would be a proper Labour policy, so of course they won’t say that.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Drinkslinger posted:

Given the Graun's long-standing history of outspoken transphobia, it's rich of them to moan about the mental health of the nation.

I mean, it might be rich of the Graun to host that article, but the article itself was written by a working clinical psychologist, and there's certainly nothing objectionable in the article itself (and a lot that is commendable)

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





they're trying to paint Truss as a hypocrite. This is a bad idea, because fascists are inherently hypocritical. Neoliberalism is atrocious at antifascism.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Also labour are far from devoid of hypocrisy themselves.

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



Tigey posted:

Their main mistake is reading the Guardian.

It exists solely to capture hand-wringing bedwetters who are a bit uneasy with the status quo, and convince them that whilst something 'theoretically' should be done, in reality, actually doing something would be really hard, so its best not to do anything at all.

Some of us are socialist bed wetters, I'll have you know.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Me, yesterday: Boris Johnson appointed the most cruel, vicious, incompetent and/or stupid ministers in the government's history.
Liz Truss, today: hold my beer.

At least it surely won't be long before the entire bag of scorpions turns on her and each other, since few of them supported her from the outset and only switched when it became clear which way the Tory membership were going to vote (white).

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Going back to that poll a few pages ago, assuming it's not entirely made up bullshit by a Tory think tank:

16-34 year olds, if they're left wing, have likely never won an election. I'm 31 and the party or position I have supported has never won any vote. I've had an MP here or there that I've supported, and one or two councillors, but in 13 years of voting that's been about it. During that time there's been fuckwit after fuckwit leading the country, bumbling from one gaffe to another, we've left Europe under a fraudulent vote, and suffered through a global pandemic.

I am not in the least bit surprised if people in that age just say gently caress it, get a dictator in, they can't be worse.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

happyhippy posted:

I'm surprised the pound or stocks aren't crashing, seeing there was gently caress all announced by Liz today.
There's 6 or so weeks before the prices increase, and right now its all 'wait and see what genius thing she will do that no one can see or spotted before to save the UK'.

I mean:



GBP/CAD is the lowest it's been since 2010, too. It's down 16% on what it was since we moved here in 2019.

Aipsh
Feb 17, 2006


GLUPP SHITTO FAN CLUB PRESIDENT

EvilHawk posted:

Going back to that poll a few pages ago, assuming it's not entirely made up bullshit by a Tory think tank:

16-34 year olds, if they're left wing, have likely never won an election. I'm 31 and the party or position I have supported has never won any vote. I've had an MP here or there that I've supported, and one or two councillors, but in 13 years of voting that's been about it. During that time there's been fuckwit after fuckwit leading the country, bumbling from one gaffe to another, we've left Europe under a fraudulent vote, and suffered through a global pandemic.

I am not in the least bit surprised if people in that age just say gently caress it, get a dictator in, they can't be worse.

Thinking about it, I've never lost a vote (except Brexit) since I turned 18, but I have never had my vote translate to my preferred govt. Because the tories are cheating bastards

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Private Speech posted:

Well BBC did say that, I'm not going to go through all the other Tories to confirm.

Cameron was only 6 years ago??? Hahajaha

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Trickjaw posted:

I kove you crispix, but maybe a holiday might be in order?

Who can afford that?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

forkboy84 posted:

Who can afford that?

I'm sure the Diarrhoea Princess can give some mates rates

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Payndz posted:

Me, yesterday: Boris Johnson appointed the most cruel, vicious, incompetent and/or stupid ministers in the government's history.
Liz Truss, today: hold my beer.

At least it surely won't be long before the entire bag of scorpions turns on her and each other, since few of them supported her from the outset and only switched when it became clear which way the Tory membership were going to vote (white).

I think this is her first big mistake: only rewarding her own faction means that the rest of the Parliamentary party have every reason to try to get rid of her and replace her with someone more likely to pass out the ministerial roles more widely. If she can't control the MPs, she won't be able to do anything else, which I thought would have been sufficiently obvious to her but clearly not.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
I don't really think it's hyperbole to say that the UK isn't a democracy in the first place. Even among "representative democracies" it's pretty bad. The head of the state and the state religion is a hereditary position, the system by which votes are counted is intentionally unrepresentative, the candidates you get to vote for are not selected democratically, and we routinely have a government with a mandate of less than 30% of the adult population. It's the trappings of a democratic system without much of the actual representation of the demos. And that's without looking at the results, which for my lifetime and I'd think for most of yours, have been successive governments making things unrelentingly worse, on purpose. Given you're repeatedly told that Britain is the very pinnacle of the democratic ideal, it's hardly surprising people don't put much value in it.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

EvilHawk posted:

Going back to that poll a few pages ago, assuming it's not entirely made up bullshit by a Tory think tank:

16-34 year olds, if they're left wing
Half of the ones quizzed seem to be all in on the death penalty and "kids these days don't respect traditional British values" so it sounds more like the former, unless the youth are a lot more reactionary than expected.

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


Venomous posted:

they're trying to paint Truss as a hypocrite. This is a bad idea, because fascists are inherently hypocritical. Neoliberalism is atrocious at antifascism.

It also relies on them having enough of a sense of shame to worry about being called a hypocrite. If the last few years has taught us anything, it’s that Tories have no shame

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Guavanaut posted:

Half of the ones quizzed seem to be all in on the death penalty and "kids these days don't respect traditional British values" so it sounds more like the former, unless the youth are a lot more reactionary than expected.

Traditional British values are garbage so I'd expect the lack of respect to be willingly admitted.

Death penalty for the rich.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
When Liz Truss was trotted out, I was told she would be the absolute worst choice by pretty much everyone, so I knew I had to put money on her winning it. And lo and behold, the Conservative party decided to dig in their heels for what, a 4th time?

I need to find more betting sites to put money on the absolute worst candidates, because bookies are always incredulous at people picking these options and it means the odds are always in your favor. If they win, you win and the country loses, if they lose, you can feel comfort in that the country might be doing slightly better than otherwise.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


lol

https://twitter.com/BareLeft/status/1567488970518315009?s=20&t=uwRO22xaLYVVhr2nZ-r_cg

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Pistol_Pete posted:

I think this is her first big mistake: only rewarding her own faction means that the rest of the Parliamentary party have every reason to try to get rid of her and replace her with someone more likely to pass out the ministerial roles more widely. If she can't control the MPs, she won't be able to do anything else, which I thought would have been sufficiently obvious to her but clearly not.

While I don't think she's some intellectual titan, I would argue that this may well be the best way for her to play a bad hand. She's got a parliamentary party who mostly don't like her (and have amply demonstrated themselves to be mostly useless and untrustworthy), weak national polling numbers, and a large but not overwhelming mandate from the membership, so her only way out is to show her value and intimidate her MPs into line with a major early success for her vision and her policies that greatly improves the government's standing in the eyes of the public. If she wants to deliver that, then she has to make sure that she's surrounded by a team of trustworthy, ideologically-aligned loyalists to ensure that nobody will be playing silly buggers and/or watering down her policies and vision. This also means that if people outside her faction start raising trouble, she can use her new position as the Saviour of Grate Britane in its Darkest Hour to bring the full weight of public opinion (and an enraged Conservative membership) down upon them as heretics and traitors.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
https://twitter.com/no1guncle/status/1567432447075258369

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

https://twitter.com/lbc/status/1567474348138676226?s=21&t=Vgaw0W3nrx_vhRyuRdwLuA

Not sure if dog whistle or just pudding for brains

e: probably both

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Gordon Broon is a shifty Scot and a Kirk man who wants to sell your children into miserable Scottish servitude and also Labour has never had a leader from outside of London.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you think about it, Scotland is just northest london.

If london is the world then everywhere can be considered purely by its relation to london. Space is up london, the center of the earth is down london.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



And Blair was born in Edinburgh. So it’s basically just Corbyn she’s thinking of again, isn’t it. Rent free for life.

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

https://twitter.com/allforthanookie/status/1567531442271391749?s=21&t=_kJ0p5EUHNtAmPt65Fg0JA

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