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roy harder posted:I've been struggling finding something similar within the same price range and I don't want to buy second hand. My options other than the one mentioned seems to be different Behringer mixers, but as you say the Midas is also a kind of Behringer now. Normally I'm all for getting new gear, especially because synths hold value so well and often the used price isn't far off from the new price, but mixers are basically everywhere used. So many businesses need them (example: churches often use them) for various reasons, you can usually find a great mixer for half the MSRP in good condition. New for a mixer would make sense if you had a specific feature you were looking for and didn't want to wait. It sounds like you're trying to figure things out, so that's the perfect excuse to buy whatever used mixer you find first, try it out, and sell it for what you paid when it doesn't do what you need. Repeat until you get to something you like.
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fwiw the Midas DM series is all solid, they're the very definition of no-frills mixers though. My shop has three of the DM12s in our rental inventory and they're our default rental board for just about any common use and they've held up particularly well. They're a bit of an oddball board because they're not originally a Midas board but were designed by DDA, a company that I haven't ever been able to find out much about but was either a subsidiary of Midas, or were bought out by Midas at some point. So it's basically a not-Midas board produced by not-Midas now... so take that as you will. But that said, I'd echo what everybody else is saying, that you can probably get a good Mackie for less. Inserts per channel are honestly kind of a weird legacy aspect that isn't really necessary unless you're using a ton of outboard gear in a very specific configuration. There's not a lot of reason to use inserts over just running whatever through a pedal and straight into the board, unless there's an application I'm overlooking. It's not like you have any control over the insert send/return levels, it'll just be at unity. If I just needed a vanilla mixer I'd 100% buy a used Mackie personally, they last forever and sound fine. I'd personally be wary of buying used Behringer boards, not because of the quality of the board themselves, but because a lot of people who buy them because they're cheap also treat them like they're cheap. I know one used music gear store owner who refuses to buy them because they've had too many fail in the shop or right after being sold. That's probably a risk with any used mixer though (or really, any used gear). edit: also for some reason I've never figured out, a lot of older (like ~2000-2005) Xenyx mixers could develop crosstalk between channels, especially between the two sides of a stereo channel. I assume it's not a problem anymore since I haven't heard it mentioned online in recent memory, but it's a risk you run with used gear, if Behringer mixers that are that old are even in circulation anymore MockingQuantum fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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Thanks for all that! I will look into more second hand options, but my quick searches around where I live didn't bear any results. The thought of importing second hand gear seems a bit daunting. I'll think about it and do some more research. As you say, I am trying to figure things out. The things I want to connect: Roland XP10, Behringer RD9 and TD3 and Sonicware Liven 8bit warps, all controlled by a Polyend Tracker. Got the tracker today, and will have to buy a bunch of cables before I test everything, but would this work without a midi-merger/splitter-thing?
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the honeymoon period was sort of crap but im coming around on my polyend tracker now that ive put some actual hours into it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lXAFTtFcxc show me all your tracker made tunes, hardware, software, whatever. its a new paradigm to me but it feels very comfy so far.
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Mr. Sharps posted:the honeymoon period was sort of crap but im coming around on my polyend tracker now that ive put some actual hours into it Did you use trackers back then? I dabbled with OctaMed quite a bit, and found the Polyend tracker easy to get into. Granted, all I want to do now is try to play old .mod-files on it. Nice track! And rack!
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B33rChiller posted:It doesn't feel right to not credit the person who wrote the words, or the person whose voice is used. Well maybe we better be clear on what trump of doom means then. I was thinking more along the lines of what I do for fun sometimes, which is run Donald Trump rallies through some slicing and effects. I just searched for the phrase trump of doom and it apparently means the final judgment.
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Trackers are better than piano rolls, not taking any debate at this time. (that bizion beat owns)
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roy harder posted:Did you use trackers back then? I dabbled with OctaMed quite a bit, and found the Polyend tracker easy to get into. Granted, all I want to do now is try to play old .mod-files on it. ive never used any tracker type software/hardware before. ive gotten in deep with the arranger in the octatrack which is like a lovely little tracker in its own right so it wasn't hard to get settled in, but the limited sound design offerings turned me off somewhat starting out. now that ive gotten comfortable with sampling into it i see that its a very quick workflow that rewards commitment more than the sort of monomaniacal elektron noodling im used to. i do wish it would allow me to invert the modulation options though, not having inverted envelopes hurts xzzy posted:Trackers are better than piano rolls, not taking any debate at this time. agreed. never was able to get on with piano rolls. my ideal daw would be one where you get to snap step sequencers together like lego blocks to build up tracks which doesn't seem to be very far off from how trackers do it
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Mr. Sharps posted:agreed. never was able to get on with piano rolls. my ideal daw would be one where you get to snap step sequencers together like lego blocks to build up tracks which doesn't seem to be very far off from how trackers do it SunVox has a number of usability issues but it does exactly that. You set up a sequence of notes (tracker style) and at the bottom it gets represented as a box that you can drag around. Make more sequences and you get more blocks to arrange on the timeline. Kinda like a piano roll of patterns. M8 and LSDJ do it too, but it's more abstract. Each phrase, which is a sequence of 16 steps, has a hex value assigned to it. You can arrange those hex values however you need to sequence the song.
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petit choux posted:Well maybe we better be clear on what trump of doom means then. I was thinking more along the lines of what I do for fun sometimes, which is run Donald Trump rallies through some slicing and effects. I just searched for the phrase trump of doom and it apparently means the final judgment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGYeTmHHZQM
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Okay, you should give credit where due then, but do it. In fact I think I might.
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By all accounts SunVox is brilliant, but I’ve never been high enough to avoid instant confusion when I sit down in front of it.
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Looks like we're getting more teensy/tracker-based grooveboxes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpPxnm5jN1M
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I tried out sample players in VCV rack with a couple recordings of bubbles and running water in the aquarium, and a ratcheting sprinkler. I put one of the signals through a comb filter, and some wave folding / saturation.
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B33rChiller posted:I tried out sample players in VCV rack with a couple recordings of bubbles and running water in the aquarium, and a ratcheting sprinkler. Water elementals fighting turtles deep underneath the sleeping city. That's what this is about.
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Is anyone going to Knobcon in IL this weekend?
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B33rChiller posted:I tried out sample players in VCV rack with a couple recordings of bubbles and running water in the aquarium, and a ratcheting sprinkler. I just noted from the VPME QD manual that "samples can be any length, up to the size of the memory card", which makes me think I should load a bank up with snippets of Reagan speeches or something
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net work error posted:I happened to pick up an SH-01a at the same time I accidentally slipped into modular and finally gave it a go today and I have to say it's really great. The hands on nature of it makes it quick to get going and it has a pretty good range. I was skeptical initially but I dig it now. I have also only just gotten into modular, so early in fact that I don't even have a proper sequencer yet. Just been using the Microbrute or Pamela. I have heard the new ALM ASQ1 is similar to the SH -01 sequencer. Anyone here have any hands on experience with it? I make dark ambient if anyone has any suggestions for a better sequencer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZcrLm44lU Wrageowrapper fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Sep 7, 2022 |
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I was inspired by B33rChiller's bubbles so I recorded some bubble noises and tore them apart disgustingly. The Befaco Lich is set up so it's comb filter -> distortion -> LPF -> comb filter. It's one of my favourite things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvl1mB1S7-Q I made the Lich patch, you can get it here: https://www.rebeltech.org/patch-library/patch/_Lich_flunginator
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Slore Tactician posted:Is anyone going to Knobcon in IL this weekend? Well I’m certainly going now that I know about it.
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I had a failed attempt to get a bivalent vaxx today (gently caress you, Walgreen's, I took time off work and had this booked!), but I stopped by guitar center and ended up dumping that Xone:4D that I had for $400; this was after failing to generate interest here, and the vibe I had on eBay was maybe I was gonna get $500 but if I wanted more than that I was gonna have to wait a while; guitar center was up front that they'd relist it for $700 and expect it to move at that price, but, they have more reach than me and I don't really care because it gets it out of my space and that's more than twice what I paid. They had a used Mimeophon in their catalog that could ship to me, so, I guess I own a Mimeophon now, or will soon. Morphegene was already on my short list and they should play nice together.
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Cabbages and Kings posted:I had a failed attempt to get a bivalent vaxx today (gently caress you, Walgreen's, I took time off work and had this booked!), but I stopped by guitar center and ended up dumping that Xone:4D that I had for $400; this was after failing to generate interest here, and the vibe I had on eBay was maybe I was gonna get $500 but if I wanted more than that I was gonna have to wait a while; guitar center was up front that they'd relist it for $700 and expect it to move at that price, but, they have more reach than me and I don't really care because it gets it out of my space and that's more than twice what I paid. Congrats on the sale! Why did Walgreens turn you down for the bivalve juice? Too soon after your previous booster?
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net work error posted:Congrats on the sale!
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After doing more research on a modular sequencer, I found that the MI Marbles what I am looking for. It can do drums beats quickly, and I can try some random melody generation as well. If I want to something more compositional instead of exploratory I can always use the CV outs on my Akai force to sequence everything. I found a store in Australia that still had a few in stock so now I have to wait for it to get shipped to Canada. Now to find some drum modules.
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Erica Pico Drums and Befaco Kickall are good IME.
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So, uh,  but I plugged my OP-1 into my SP404 to sample some synths and it threw my OP-1 into a factory reset. I lost 4 projects and god knows how many custom samples.God drat it, I wish I backed this thing up more often but that’s kinda why I got it, to not have to rely on a computer.
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net work error posted:Congrats on the sale! They had no juice, even though I had booked online, gotten multiple confirmations including this morning, and the staff acted surly (because this was clearly an ongoing trend) and the lead pharmacist (only other masked person in there  ) with fire in his eyes said "COMPLAIN TO CORPORATE", and I could tell, he really wanted me to! So I did.Whatever, but it's a half day taken off work for no reason and then spent driving. If I hadn't gotten a Mimeophon out of it, I might be upset RackBrute 6U showed up today. Looking all lonely and empty, but at least I have more space than modules, with enough stuff already ordered that the next few weeks should have a couple little christmas events (E520 should be here by monday, E342 sometime after, we'll see how long it takes Guitar Center to get me the mimeophon...) Rolo posted:So, uh,  That sucks and I am really sorry to hear it but thanks for making me feel this much better about deciding to get off the TE train when my OP-1 audio port bit it and cash out into a pure synth. I love the form factor of the thing and it was fantastic out in the woods and stuff, but I'm skeptical of QE from a company who responds to a 10 month old unit with a slightly fucky audio jack by just issuing a full refund.edit: anyone know if it's possible to get extra rackbrute hardware? It occurs to me that if I could get 2 more of the inner-screw-hole piece that the Link Connect screws into, then I could drill a couple holes in the NiftyCase and have it be one unit. Hmm, maybe all I need is big nuts with an inner thread diameter it will screw into, and then carefully mount those.... Cabbages and VHS fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Sep 7, 2022 |
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Cabbages and Kings posted:all I need is big nuts i got you  https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3889777 for more info
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while i still need to get a proper sequencer set up for my modular, i managed to get some results i'm pretty happy with out of the tb-3p0 applet for ornament and crime today by modulating it with some synced lfos from pams. my goal sound is something between beatless detroit techno and caterina barbieri. https://soundcloud.com/fieldbalm/mo...=social_sharing Pretty simple patch: pams clocking/modulating 2 insances of tb-3p0, which are sending pitch to a make noise st0 and a verbos foundation oscillator oscillators are going through a channel each of blades and then into a dplpg channel, triggered by tb-3p0 clep diaz modulating shape on the st0 and harmonics on the foundation osc doepfer 118-2 very slighty modulating the pitch of the oscs so theyre slightly out of tune every now and then while its not enough for a complete track i think the technique resulted in a nice proof of concept track at least!
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field balm posted:pams clocking/modulating 2 insances of tb-3p0, enjoyed this - this is where my brain has been recently (hawaii coast? 50-50 between west coast buchlatrash and very straightforward Roland sound stuff. if the make noise transistor thingies count as LPGs then so does Ripples  ) hadn't yet done two of the same on hemispheres but thats a good candidate. Might be time to install one of the forks on mine.
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JamesKPolk posted:enjoyed this - this is where my brain has been recently (hawaii coast? 50-50 between west coast buchlatrash and very straightforward Roland sound stuff. if the make noise transistor thingies count as LPGs then so does Ripples hey thanks! im using the benisphere fork at the moment which i think has everything off hemispheres plus tb-3p0, clep diaz emulations, grids emulation and a couple other things
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Achmed Jones posted:i got you i knew someone would but there's no other name for that part  I used to drive by this all the time
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what are you talking about? there's lots of other things to call them: balls, nads, huevos, nards, testes, the boys, cojones, bollocks, plums, goolies, family jewels jeeze louise use some creativity!!!
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Excuse me, this is the synth thread. All my creativity stems from the random event generator on my polyend tracker.
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B33rChiller posted:It doesn't feel right to not credit the person who wrote the words, or the person whose voice is used. Well that's me and Dan Carlin respectively and I can't speak for him but from my end just knock yourself out.
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All my creativity stems from video game music that gets stuck in my head and warped to poo poo into something interesting while I’m trying to sleep, and then completely forgotten by morning. it also stems from random bullshit to be fair
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I made a loop last night and when I got the basics down I realized it was basically the brinstar theme from the metroid.
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